I know this has been brought up before, but I noticed on one of those huge oakley posters, that the pep poster of the dbl kink ledge has a tiny armada sign in the lower left corner on the wall. This is not just some thing for Armada, because the rider isnt armada, he rides for K2, which tells me that it is between armada and oakley. just proof there for something that had been brought up.