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ArnieP
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So I am starting to slide, but I have trouble breaking my wheels away right now to get in to that slide. So my question is, what are some good sliding wheels? Does the size make a difference (60mm. vs. 76mm)? Or is it all just in the duro?
Sep 18 2009 11:55AM
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MANDER
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smaller wheels will help you slide but there is also the hardness/softness of the wheel. the harder they are the better for sliding but less grip for cruising
Sep 18 2009 11:58AM
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OAK_TREE
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i have some orangatangs In Heats 75 mm and 83a durometer. I'm not a big fan of sliding at least now, and I have slid a couple of times without even trying to. just really carves get me to initiate a slide with these wheels so maybe you want to check out these.
Sep 18 2009 12:21PM
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-JME-
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GUMBALLS
Sep 18 2009 12:24PM
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b-kul
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abec 11 flashbacks in 78a would be a good choice (70mm).
Sep 18 2009 12:43PM
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[Dawn
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go for the Orangatang Stimulis Freeride 70mm 83a, i love em, or get the Duran Freeride which is 75mm and 83a. at the begenning of the summer i started longboarding, now i can almost do 360 slides standing up. these wheeles are the shittt.
Sep 18 2009 12:49PM
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Ryan10271
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Wait, are you doing quick back to back 180s or just one huge  3? Cause that would be rediculous!!!!

But for the OP, do you want nice "tech sliding" wheels, which will be rough to ride on and will slide forever, a "freeride" wheel, like the o-tangs, or a wheel that will mostly grip but will slide nice if you want it to?

Tech Sliding - Earthiwing slide A (hope ya have slide gloves), sergio yuppies

Freeride - Loaded stimulus or Abec 11 Grippins

Racier - Lime Big Zigs, Reflex formula abec 11 freeride

Sep 18 2009 1:19PM
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ArnieP
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What is an ideal hardness for just a little guy?
Sep 18 2009 2:03PM
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k-rob
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depends on how hard you can push your slide, but if you're smaller chances are you won't be able to push as hard as a big guy, so harder wheels would probably be better for sliding. i think the orangatangs Dawn mentioned are a good choice, i've ridden them and they are pretty good for sliding but still have enough grip to carve.
Sep 18 2009 2:20PM
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Che~
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my threads
Sep 18 2009 3:06PM
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ArnieP
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Ya, I am really liking the Durian Freeride. They look sick.
Sep 18 2009 3:30PM
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Mooose...
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BAHAHAHAHAHA

/ stupid claim
Sep 18 2009 4:34PM
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Chompo.
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abec 11s are considered pretty inconsistent sliding wheels... but o tang stimulus would probably be the way for you to go
Sep 18 2009 4:37PM
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Ryan10271
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Little guys usually need harder, smaller wheels to have them do the same thing.

Abec 11 wheels are consistent, they just have different wheels that do different things well.

I imagine that you want a cruising wheel that you can get into sliding with. Buy a set of 65mm oranguatang freerides.

Sep 18 2009 4:55PM
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ArnieP
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So far, I am thinking O'Tang's.
Sep 19 2009 12:16PM
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[Dawn
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yeah one big 360 slide, it looks insane, but i still haven't mastered it yet. also i can do toe-side and heel-side 180 slides.

also...

i have an apex 37 so i can hardly carve with these wheeles, but on a different board i would think you can. i imagine the apex 37 makes any wheel act like it has 10 more duro..
Sep 19 2009 2:08PM
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Mooose...
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First off, the apex37 is just a deck. Any original truck will make it extremely easy to slide out. I'm assuming that you have the s8's.

Second of all, there is no possible way you can even come close to doing a stand up 360 slide. That is complete and utter bullshit. Vids.
Sep 19 2009 2:51PM
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thisandthatfilms
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yes
Sep 19 2009 2:53PM
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dodgey
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dude go for some orangatangs, big zigs, or maybe some gumballs. i've got orangatangs on by dervish and i love em.  the harder the wheel the easier they'll slide but be carefull cuz if you get them too hard your life will suck. they'll slide out whenever you hit a crack in the sidewak and it will ruin carving on sidewalks or like on a college campus

but yeah mob it hard
Sep 19 2009 2:55PM
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Thenowhereman42
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Lol that is a good point.

Anyway, don 't even bother buying new wheels for sliding there's no point really.  I learned to slide on Lime BigZigs, which are not good for sliding at all.  You'll just get it when you get it.
Sep 19 2009 3:10PM
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Ryan10271
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I know kids that can do stand up 360s on slide wheels.

Go buy those o-tangs arnie. You'll love em

Sep 19 2009 3:31PM
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Phantom
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otangs are sick, if you're going for freeride you'll probably want the smaller 4prez ones. lime retro freerides are sick wheels too.
Sep 19 2009 3:34PM
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Mooose...
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I ride o-tang inheat 80a's.

if you are looking to slide and purchase new wheels, look for something with a rounded lip. Maybe something like a set of harder duro abec no schoolz, or retro freerides.

if you are set on orangatang wheels then go with the durians or stimulus, because you dont want the reflex mold for sliding. The inheats and 4prez are made to grip, respond, and give return carve energy.

Sep 19 2009 5:55PM
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Ryan10271
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All oranguatant wheels are of the same color are poured in the same urethane, it's the wheel and lip shape that affects how it slides.

Fun fact: a rounded inner lip with a square outside lip slides better than vice-versa

Lime zigs actually slide real nice-like, give em time.

Sep 19 2009 6:15PM
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k-rob
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they have two different colours...
Sep 19 2009 6:32PM
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ArnieP
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Well the reason that I am leaning towards a harder wheel is that I weigh 140 lbs and am new to sliding. So I want something easier to learn on then move on to my Zigs.
Sep 19 2009 8:12PM
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ArnieP
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Bump.
Sep 20 2009 1:14PM
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Phantom
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you've got quite a bit of advice here now, you probably should just buy a set and find out what you like,
Sep 20 2009 10:29PM
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uni-corn
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Mar 16 2010 11:58AM
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smuggsVT
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you can make any wheels slide with enough force but i would recommend something that is at least 83a duro. I have yellow bigzigs which are 83a and i can get them to slide when i want and griip when i want. ive had gumballs and the o-tang 4presidents (orange ones) and being a little softer they were much harder to make slide. another thing you should look at is the edge of the wheels. a rounded edge will slide a lot easier and smoother.
Mar 16 2010 12:18PM
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FBGM
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dude...arnie, you're a fucking idiot.
Apr 13 2010 8:10PM
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Turnup_swiperigh
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its all in the duro
Apr 13 2010 8:39PM
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jorb.co
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this
Apr 13 2010 9:34PM
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CTD
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bunch of advice:

standard trucks like indys are better for sliding than trucks like randals. The way they turn (compared to the lean of the board) is gradual initially and gets progressively more intense. this lets you break loose way easier, by snapping into a turn real hard. Randals are a linear turn, and its harder to create that intense and immediate turn in that breaks traction. they are really just better than randals for just about everything, but thats a whole nother story.

the lip profile of the wheel really changes its slide characteristics. if you have a square lipped wheel, and want them radiused, hook um up to a drill press and go at them with a file. a little bit is enough. try a little bit first, and slowly play with it till it feels right. Also, centerset or offset wheels are better than sideset wheels. thats mostly because they are less likely to cone out, but it also removes a bit of traction from the inner lip of the wheel, making it less grabby.

Soft bushings are key. if your back truck is dewedged, that'll make it more difficult to initiate a slide. sliding is all about quickly taking the wheel to the limits of traction, and then pushing it past. its almost impossible to slide a high traction wheel if you cant quickly get it perpendicular to your direction of travel.

any duro wheel will work just fine. its more about breaking them in correctly. if i recall, otangs are pre stone ground to give the wheel some texture. this is what kinda lets the wheel "walk out". a brand new wheel will flat real easily if you dont break them in a bit first. the best way to do that is just some simple colemans or pendys. the key is to slide while the wheels are still rolling. its also a good idea to slide it in both directions, or rotate your wheels at first.




Apr 14 2010 12:10AM
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ArnieP
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Damn, thanks Chris.
Apr 17 2010 5:17PM
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steevner
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Pay attention at :40 seconds. It's possible, but likely not after a summer of riding and not with an apex.
Won't let me embed. fffuuu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDz0pyc26Ss
Apr 17 2010 5:25PM
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ArnieP
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Even better examples:

Simply Steezie! from Rayne Longboards on Vimeo.


Apr 17 2010 5:27PM
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Number_9
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Join the cult in my signature. Maybe you can get some more help there :)

Also, I'm not sure what you've gotten/if you've gotten anything, but the higher durometer the better it is for sliding. Especially those with rounded edges (similar to a skateboard wheel) then your basic longboard wheel which is sharper with a more defined edge.
Apr 17 2010 5:34PM
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Chompo.
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The yellow o'tang freerides in 75mm
Apr 17 2010 7:21PM
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ISellMeth
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This my friend is the anwser
Apr 17 2010 9:50PM
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fragglemuffin
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if you want a good sliding wheel, dont get a square-lipped wheel like gumballs, bigzigs, etc.  Those wheels will all slide, but not as easy/well as round lip freeride wheels.  You want a round lip wheel with a high durometer.  Otang freerides are a good choice, as well as abec 11 freeriders and earthwing freeriders.  They all slide like butter IMO.
Apr 17 2010 10:33PM
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