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.peter
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Why aren't there more team videos in skiing? In every other action sport where athletes have a close relationship with there sponsors there are team videos every year that go on sale either at the end of the season or in the beginning of the next. Take the Baker or Tech 9 videos each year they take their highest level riders and shoot a big very well made movie that shows what each atheleat did that past season. Those movies get people excited about both the riders and the brand benefiting both parties. And they're not only bought by the cult like followers of that particular sport. I bet there are people here who own a skateboarding video who can't name any rider or company other than the one in that video. Big companies like K2, Soloman, Rossignol, hell even CoreUpt should be making movies like that every single year. Last year the only real team movie was by Atomic. But it was only available for free through theirs and other ski community podcasts. That movie should have been made into a DVD and sold in every ski shop that caries Atomic. Most of us have already seen that footage, don't care, or will buy the movie anyway. Free stuff is nice, but it's about time that riders who don't win the X-Games are able to make a good living out of what they've devoted their whole lives to. There shouldn't be such a huge gap between Jon Olsson, and Simon Dumont, and Tom Wallisch.
There may be no money in skiing now but that wasn't always the case. In the 80's skiers made money. Why? because the tourists who have the money to spend were included. And the people who were good were made a spectacle of for them.
Anyway, the point is, team videos are a great way for atheletes to get noticed and companies to make more money. And when companies make more money the riders get paid better and don't have to paint houses all summer long or retire when they get out of college.
It would benefit everyone.
Sep 14 2009 10:05PM
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.peter
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Agree Disagree?
Sep 15 2009 1:38AM
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SteezeBall
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I would disagree. The greatest part about skiing is the individuality. Skiing is what you make it. Not what your team makes it.
Sep 15 2009 1:41AM
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Download-My-Apps
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Salomon has made them in the past, not sure about this year. It was decent.
Sep 15 2009 1:44AM
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garettnorthey
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helly hansen used to do them...
Sep 15 2009 1:53AM
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eheath
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Cash flow son. Poor Boyz is slightly turning into to salomon though...
Sep 15 2009 1:55AM
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.peter
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^ How is PBP in any way turning into Soloman? And what does that have to do with cash flow?
Did you even read the post?
Sep 16 2009 7:55PM
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Alp1ne
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Cause all there new riders ride for soloman? and i don't think any of the solomon riders don't film with PbP
Sep 16 2009 8:04PM
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jakepwilliams
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agree
Sep 16 2009 8:05PM
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Jamie_Baril
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I happen to have it on good authority that Line is making one this year.
Sep 16 2009 8:28PM
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joly.sp
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If Salomon sponsors the movie then they want as many riders as possible in it to showcase their company. All of the guys that ride for solly are sick skiiers anyways!!

Sep 16 2009 8:32PM
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garettnorthey
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Chris Rubens, Mike Douglas and Mark Abma film with MSP.
Sep 16 2009 8:48PM
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soup
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sorry to break it to you man but there is very little money within the industry.  for a company to hire its own filmers, send athletes on trips, and make a movie is just too much.  A company like dynastar could possibly do it with roxy backing them but its just not in the budget yet for companies.  Some day the ski community will get it.  Joystick did it a couple years back and it turned out fucking sick. 
Sep 16 2009 8:50PM
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Ham.and.Cheese
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Basically traveling circuis but it should be pretty sick

Sep 16 2009 8:56PM
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Alp1ne
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Mike and mark abma film with pbp aswell as msp and i think rubens did a few years back.
Sep 16 2009 9:09PM
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.peter
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Do you not read the posts or just the parts that give you some thing to argue about.
Everyone knows there's not a lot of money in skiing, that's the point of making a team video, So companies can sell more skis and make more money.

It also just so happens that making a quality ski movie doesn't cost a lot of money. (voleurz, 4bi9, NewIntel, CASG edits) and on top of that there are plenty of companies that have plenty of money they could spend on such endeavors Yes, maybe not 4frnt but Line(owned by K2), K2, Atomic, Rossignol (Quicksilver), Head, and especially Soloman all have the means to make a good team movie but for some reason either don't, or make a 4.5 minute edit that they give away online for free. Instead of a short team edit make it into a full movie that can be sold in stores. And since you don't seem to have ever seen a team movie/ know what it is, it isn't just the company following their riders around all year. A lot of it is footage from other movies and interviews.

Joystick's came out last summer and it wasn't a team movie it was Anthony and his friends on a road trip. It was a concept movie about living the life of a pro skier and in particular a different side of pro skiing that people don't usually see. It was very good but not a real team video.

Go to Baker skateboards website and buy their team movie from last year, or Forum snowboards then you'll se what an actual team video is.
Sep 18 2009 7:20PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Sep 18 2009 7:23PM
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Malczyk
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most ski companies are in the business of making skis...not DVD sales. they support the actual pro film companies to finance them to make videos. in a perfect world ski manufacturers will bankroll pro filmers to follow their riders around, that is mucho $$$ however.
Sep 18 2009 8:41PM
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.peter
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1st of all what ski company owner told you they can't afford it?
2nd team films are incredible ways for a company to get great publicity.
3rd incase you've never seen one, team videos usually consist of interviews with the top pros on the team and a re-cap of their season then footage of a team shoot that most companies already have.
4th in a perfect world? every other action sport has team videos, why not skiing.
and 5th, they're not bankrolling any more pro filmers than they already do so there's not really any reason to not have them.
Sep 19 2009 1:56AM
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Malczyk
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1. the one i work for, and all the other ones that don't make team videos because no one is buying skis right now because their parents are losing their jobs. We're in a recession brotha!
2. yes they are..and they have pretty moving pictures in them too, i love them. They add to the vitality of the sport and personify a brand. Rome SDS Kids on Shred movies are case and point.
3. i've seen some, nothing in skiing that is close to a skate or snb team film, hopefully some day.
4. in a perfect world we would..why not skiing? exactly. i'm not poo pooing the idea, just contributing to thread with rationality
5. this is not true. to have a 1 to 2 pro filmer specifically shooting with just riders from one brand would cost $$, if it didn't, you'd come out with a crappy am film.

good thread
Sep 20 2009 2:50PM
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