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rockymountainmilitia
Posts: 2706 - Karma: 12
Alrighty ive been trvelling for the good part of a year now and what ive noticed over the past months has been a rise in the hatred of the usa by all the people I meet. Now I have nothing against americans. Most of them are cool, just like most Canadians or British or Thai (etc.) are cool, theres just a few people which back up the stereotype for each country. Your president and fucken head office is ruining it for your fucken country. And yes you can write this off as fucken shit statement made by some skier but fuck guys with the way you economy is going, the fights your picking, the fucken mass mistakes your government has made and your national inability to vote in the right person, soon enough your not gonna be a superpower. Are you at all nervous of the hole your country is digging itself into and how fucken hard it is gonna be to get out? should be
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Feb 15 2004 6:53AM
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Rogge
Posts: 5773 - Karma: 3,930
^from an american, i agree, our president is awful but we have elections coming up this fall and it could go either way. pray that bush doesnt get reelected


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Feb 15 2004 8:07AM
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Melvs
Posts: 15174 - Karma: 480
all well educated forgieners i've met realize there is a BIG difference between the americfan public and the american government.

-Pat Melvin
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'people just think they're accomplishing something in their lives by fighting 'the man'.. - mh
Feb 15 2004 9:52AM
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Insomniac
Posts: 2816 - Karma: 185
i agree with you^^^. but like melvs said, the american people are much different than the american government. Almost no one belives what bush is doing is right, but i cant tell if that is peoples honest opinions or if theyre trying to be anti-establishment and follow the group by saying something they dont believe in.
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Feb 15 2004 10:16AM
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Sharpy
Posts: 7596 - Karma: 19
it still goes back to that the american people voted him into power...
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Feb 15 2004 10:18AM
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Insomniac
Posts: 2816 - Karma: 185
yes it does, and i, as an american, can only think that they voted him because of his father. and also, bush's true self did not come out till september 11th.
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Feb 15 2004 10:25AM
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con_cept
Posts: 1752 - Karma: 10
^Very true... I forget where, but someone edited a Bush vs Bush arguement (shots taken from his speeches during the presidential running race, vs ones from speeches made from the white house)



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Feb 15 2004 10:30AM
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Melvs
Posts: 15174 - Karma: 480
thaty was the daily show, and it was great. As for voting him in... I know you've heard it before, but the majority of the US didn't vote for him. I can assure yuo he will not win the next election either.

-Pat Melvin
WBP|films

'people just think they're accomplishing something in their lives by fighting 'the man'.. - mh
Feb 15 2004 11:22AM
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Stryken
Posts: 1396 - Karma: 22
I HAVE BEEN ENLIGHTENED!

Difference between the American Government and the American Public?!?! Brilliant. There is a huge difference. But that's not what it was intended to be! Representation plz! The people are not running this country!

DOWN WITH BUSH WOO!


We'll have you dead pretty soon.
Feb 15 2004 12:59PM
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Stryken
Posts: 1396 - Karma: 22
I will be 18 for elections. I plan to make my first vote as a registered voter, and it will not be fore President Bush.


We'll have you dead pretty soon.
Feb 15 2004 1:00PM
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Itsbackfliptime
Posts: 18901 - Karma: 75
Well the economy is doing pretty well right now. It might be because of bush it might not be.

Bush will be re elected. Mostly because there isnt anyone better running.

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Feb 15 2004 1:38PM
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SUpilot
Posts: 5267 - Karma: 15
'the way you economy is going, the fights your picking, the fucken mass mistakes your government has made and your national inability to vote in the right person, soon enough your not gonna be a superpower.'

1) Economy is doing well
2) We 'pick fights'? We waged war on the terrorists of Iraq, not the people of Iraq. Your confused like so many others. False assumptions get you nowhere.
3) Inability to get the right person in office? The right people are in office and the majority of the country supports bush.
4) Loss of superpower status? Ha, first off who cares, second off it will not happen. Fuckin assmonkey who makes assumptions on his own opinions rather than the facts.
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Feb 15 2004 1:44PM
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manwiththemetalleg
Posts: 1636 - Karma: 91
Being from Europe, i've noticed a rise in 'hatred' towards the U.S. as a whole since Iraq, and its not just people with eastern origins. A lot of people in Britain aren't to fond of the U.S. at the moment, so i doubt its a problem involving only the eastern world.
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Feb 15 2004 1:55PM
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bigsky_gurl
Posts: 1455 - Karma: 40
Our economy is doing well relative to what?



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Feb 15 2004 2:01PM
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SUpilot
Posts: 5267 - Karma: 15
relative to our economy in the past, ie we have growth. relative to the rest of the world we are doing well too. to say our economy is doing poorly just doesnt make sense.
Taste Death. Live Life.
Feb 15 2004 2:19PM
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SUpilot
Posts: 5267 - Karma: 15
besides bigsky...what does sam have that i dont?
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Feb 15 2004 2:25PM
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J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,143
^Girth Steeze! But don't misinterpret him: both the American public and the american government are picking fights. Look at all that bullshit about France. The hate coming out of the U.S. over a difference of political opinion makes me sick. I mean they ran over french wine, effigies, etc. with a tank in texas. That doesn't make me like the U.S. public or government attitude very much at all, and I'm positive that a LOT of people lost respect over that too. Freedom fries...how petty can you be?


J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

On San Francisco: ''that was like the starting place of gayness and aids in the eighties.'' -Tandan83
Feb 15 2004 4:26PM
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J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,143
^I should clarify, I do see the distinction between gov't and populus, as well as the fact that the ENTIRE american public is not anti0france...but media outlets certainly don't convey that last part very well. So it's hard to overlook.


J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

On San Francisco: ''that was like the starting place of gayness and aids in the eighties.'' -Tandan83
Feb 15 2004 4:29PM
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hucksterjibber15
Posts: 4255 - Karma: 11
fuck america, and im an american saying that. the people here are so easily swayed by the media, and for the most part are too brainwashed to make their own views, but rather just hop on the train, and go with what everybody else is doing. i know if i were 18, i would tell bush, the mother fucker who has done everything in the name of big business, and nothin for the common household, spending millions of dollars on bullshit wars that have gotten us nowhere and cut financial aid to schools, and college students, that if this shit doesnt turn around, which it hasnt and wont, that we will vote his right wing faschist ass right the fuck out of office.




if people dont like what ive created, fuck em, because somebody else does-TANNER

can you see what's down there? me either.-seth peering down a cliff before he drops it

ns army, whatever is right below the general

I go either way-elasmoskichick
Feb 15 2004 5:20PM
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SUpilot
Posts: 5267 - Karma: 15
so much emotion and no common sense in your post...thats the problem. regard the facts not the myths. open up your eyes...
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Feb 15 2004 5:29PM
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SkiSundownJibber
Posts: 1013 - Karma: 19
It's funny how much so many people pretend to know about economics.


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Feb 15 2004 6:10PM
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Rbamf
Posts: 792 - Karma: 15
to america- fuck you
to american society- fuck you too
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Feb 15 2004 6:22PM
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unrigged
Posts: 904 - Karma: 15
you know why bush will get re-elected, because i am betting he has already found osama, but hasn't told ne1 and as soon as re-elections pop up i think he will announce that they found him. Therefore, all the americans will vote for him just because he 'stopped the terrorist' and yo, there wasnt' really any terrorists in iraq, bush just said that hussain was because he had nukes. well the u.s. has nukes the rest of the world doesnt call them terrorists i mean what the fuck.





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Feb 15 2004 7:02PM
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unrigged
Posts: 904 - Karma: 15
you know why bush will get re-elected, because i am betting he has already found osama, but hasn't told ne1 and as soon as re-elections pop up i think he will announce that they found him. Therefore, all the americans will vote for him just because he 'stopped the terrorist' and yo, there wasnt' really any terrorists in iraq, bush just said that hussain was because he had nukes. well the u.s. has nukes the rest of the world doesnt call them terrorists i mean what the fuck.





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Feb 15 2004 7:03PM
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Insomniac
Posts: 2816 - Karma: 185
sorry but i feel an anti-flag shirt quote needs to be placed here.

'Why is it not called terrorism when its carried out by the United States'
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Feb 15 2004 8:41PM
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Itsbackfliptime
Posts: 18901 - Karma: 75
^because the united states tells people they're going to do it. And we don't do it for 'evil' intentions. But who are we to say whats evil.

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Feb 15 2004 8:51PM
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Insomniac
Posts: 2816 - Karma: 185
another reason is because alot of people dont think bush was wrong to go to a country and kill innocent people.

But on the other hand alot of people didnt think Bin Laden was wrong to go to a country and kill innocent people.


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Feb 15 2004 9:16PM
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misterbinz
Posts: 1099 - Karma: 10
SUpilot, you keep saying we waged war with terrorists in Iraq. False statement. We tried to wage war with terrorists in Afganistan, but instead we just killed innocent people. The war we engaged in with Iraq was against a corrupt leader and government, not a terrorist. Currently, we have probably killed more innocent people than terrorists.
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Feb 15 2004 9:42PM
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Crystal-needs-a-park
Posts: 9939 - Karma: 15
bush's only foreign friends are the suadi royals and tony blair
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Feb 15 2004 9:48PM
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skifree919
Posts: 5842 - Karma: 35
People ask why we elected bush and all of that, but lets just look at the other choice that we had. Al Gore. He isn't exactly the best candidate to pick from. Also, people say how badly the economy is doing, but i todays close was 10,627.85, which is a lot better than we were doing before, and im not exactly sure, but its either about the same or higher than it was when bush was elected. Now i dont like bush, but you can't deny some of the things hes done have been good



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Feb 15 2004 10:27PM
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SUpilot
Posts: 5267 - Karma: 15
'We triedwar in iraq was HIGHLY effective, al queda is now in a state of disarray never seen before in history to wage war with terrorists in Afganistan, but instead we just killed innocent peopleinnocent people die in every war and it just so happens that VERY small amounts of civilians died in this conflict.'

'The war we engaged in with Iraq was against a corrupt leader and government whom harbored terrorists, not a terrorist. Currently, we have PROBABLYnice non-absolute word lol killed more innocent people than terrorists.might want to do homework on that before spouting opions and using words like PROBABLY, ha

misterbinz...seriously...how old are you?
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Feb 15 2004 10:29PM
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SUpilot
Posts: 5267 - Karma: 15
'bush's only foreign friends are the suadi royals and tony blair.'

your definately a driving force behind the anti-war peoples stereotype, ha. i expected more from you at least...
Taste Death. Live Life.
Feb 15 2004 10:31PM
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*ELLA*
Posts: 1628 - Karma: 11
I despise bush. i'm not going to lie he did destroy al queda which i'm sure has saved many peoples lives. However, he went into iraq stating that there were nuclear weapons there which have yet to be found. As for the economy, the economy is going up because its been a while since september 11th, its natural that the economy will go up overtime, its not that bush did to help that. Bush is just a rich fucker from some rich company that takes money from families in need. i can say this because i'm not some wealthy american and what Dean has done for our state (Vermont) is amazing and i would vote for him over bush anyday
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Feb 15 2004 10:45PM
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SUpilot
Posts: 5267 - Karma: 15
obviously the economy will eventually do better than it did just after 9/11, but the truth is we are seeing pre 9/11 growth at this time, which can be attributed to bush's policy.
Taste Death. Live Life.
Feb 16 2004 12:07AM
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J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,143
SUPilot, you have some good arguments, but a lot of what you say is exceedingly stupid. How can you use 'You're a stereotypical anti-war person, ha' as conterargument? You're certainly not making yourself look any smarter in the eyes of anybody intelligent, I can tell you that. Try stating a fact in opposition next time. God, arrogant people annoy me...probly because I am one.


J.D.'s Hall of Fame for Stupid Posts:

''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

On San Francisco: ''that was like the starting place of gayness and aids in the eighties.'' -Tandan83
Feb 16 2004 12:55AM
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Logchucker
Posts: 1508 - Karma: 16
Lets get this thing straight, Either America elects leaders or representatives, which have big differences. A representative, represents the people doing what they want them to do even if its dumb. Leaders are the people who take there countries in new directions, Leaders take control, and do what they think is right. Good examples of leaders-churchill, FDR, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Jefferson, Washington, Andrew Jackson
Feb 16 2004 2:49AM
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NoTeefa
Posts: 9566 - Karma: 129
honestly, we should just remake the borders and have texas be a part of fucking mexico.
stupid ass faggot texans


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Feb 16 2004 2:59AM
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skierdudeguy
Posts: 6574 - Karma: 81
haha


if talking about your own poop is wrong, i don't want to be right.
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Feb 16 2004 3:08AM
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Crystal-needs-a-park
Posts: 9939 - Karma: 15
fine, any country with a population of less then 500k is a fan of bush too
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you bettter still have my jagermeister shirt, or I'll fucking drive a train through your anus. – jibtech
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Somedays I like it crunchy, other days I take it up the ass! - Lanemeyers
Looting, it's the new way to buy stuff! - Jib_This
Feb 16 2004 3:54AM
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SUpilot
Posts: 5267 - Karma: 15
J.D. May......are you even an american? or do you live up north in the woods? if a statement seems 'stupid' please reread it a few times at least so then its context might dawn on you. if not, then i'm sorry. i'll try to articulate myself in a more remedial way.
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Feb 16 2004 9:44AM
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J.D.
Posts: 21362 - Karma: 5,143
^Oh, please do lower your speech to my humble level, oh great and intellectual one, for I am unworthy to bear witness to the truths you speak! Since I am clearly your inferior, you must write in very lowbrow terms or I'll never understand. God knows anyone who could be YOUR inferior must hardly be able to speak English...

In case you couldn't tell, that was sarcasm. And apparently you're completely unable to grasp the concept of logical argument. You see, there's this thing called ad hominem. It's what you like to do, apparently. You attack the person, in an effort to make their argument seem less convincing. It's a fallacy, and in they eyes of anyone even slightly intelligent, it makes you look ike a moron. I was trying to point that out to you so that you'd stop making a fool of yourself, but seeing as that appears to be something of a lost cause...

Your political arguments aren't even worth my time; essentially you blame everything bad on other people, and give Bush credit for everything good. Unfortunately, since you seem like a zealot, it would be a waste of my time to even attempt to convince you that you might be wrong. So I won't bother. I wasn't trying to do that, I was trying to help you make a good argument instead of spewing crap. But by all means, go on making an ass of yourself, if that's what you prefer to do. While you're doing that, try showing some respect, or you sure as hell won't get any in return.

Add one more name to the jackass NSer list...


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''mad trix is a gay name. go with the k2's.'' -Linepunk

''Dude, Americans or Canadians didn't invent english, the British dudes did.'' -Chauncy

On San Francisco: ''that was like the starting place of gayness and aids in the eighties.'' -Tandan83
Feb 16 2004 12:50PM
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SUpilot
Posts: 5267 - Karma: 15
'Your political arguments aren't even worth my time'.......if this is true then why have you replied to just about every single one of my replies? is that the best retaliation you can come up with when someone has a stonger argument than yours? also, remember to look up in this thread if your confused as to who threw the first handful of poop. you did, but hey your canadian so its cool. i've learned to give some canadians an intellectual buffer if you will. would you like one?
Oh, please do lower your speech to my humble level, oh great and intellectual one, for I am unworthy to bear witness to the truths you speak! Since I am clearly your inferior, you must write in very lowbrow terms or I'll never understand. --JD May
Feb 16 2004 1:13PM
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rumbumdeedum
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i dont know how all you people think our economy is doing so good rite now, it is one of the hardest thing to predict. But common sense tells you that a war and occupation, plus a sluggish economy and tax cuts dont make sense.


the economy is not doing better, and if you think it is, you need to check out the facts some more.
Feb 16 2004 1:54PM
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hucksterjibber15
Posts: 4255 - Karma: 11
SUpilot, you are a dumbass, stop now, while you are only so far ahead.




if people dont like what ive created, fuck em, because somebody else does-TANNER

can you see what's down there? me either.-seth peering down a cliff before he drops it

ns army, whatever is right below the general

I go either way-elasmoskichick
Feb 16 2004 1:59PM
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hucksterjibber15
Posts: 4255 - Karma: 11
SUpilot, you are a dumbass, stop now, while you are only so far ahead.




if people dont like what ive created, fuck em, because somebody else does-TANNER

can you see what's down there? me either.-seth peering down a cliff before he drops it

ns army, whatever is right below the general

I go either way-elasmoskichick
Feb 16 2004 2:04PM
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Insomniac
Posts: 2816 - Karma: 185
from waht i noticed SUpilot is the only one that made a political argument. J.D. May was just contradicting his arguement, which i guess is an arguement in itself. I dunno, that was alot to take in, so correct me if im wrong.
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Feb 16 2004 4:06PM
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Insomniac
Posts: 2816 - Karma: 185
from waht i noticed SUpilot is the only one that made a political argument. J.D. May was just contradicting his arguement, which i guess is an arguement in itself. I dunno, that was alot to take in, so correct me if im wrong. but you really should have something to argue if your gonna argue.

sorry if this double posted. i realized i wasnt done and hit stop.
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Feb 16 2004 4:07PM
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unrigged
Posts: 904 - Karma: 15
From what i can see, this argument is stupid in itself. The economy of the united states is one of the best in the world and always has been. And it is possible it has been going up because the people which are building all the new things in iraq are americans. They have contracted everything therefore this is where the extra money may be coming from. other than that i would like to state that personally i think bush is a dumbass as i explained above and the united states economy has gotten better just because of increase in time not from bush as J.may stated earlier peace.





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Feb 16 2004 8:14PM
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SofaKingdom
Posts: 122 - Karma: 10
'the people here are so easily swayed by the media, and for the most part are too brainwashed to make their own views'

Yes and you are among the few elitiests who only make their own views that isn't influenced by jackshit. Fucking hypocrite.

And fuck the dude who started this. I'd much rather be in America with my 'nose in the air' attitude than stuck in some fucking 3rd world country shitting in a Folgers coffee can that was made in America. Blame the U.S. for whatever reasons... but at least I'm not sitting on my thumb trying to find excuses to who's to blame for your predicament.
'I bought an antfarm once. Them fellers didn't grow shit'.
Feb 16 2004 8:38PM
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Nickskier
Posts: 1761 - Karma: 13
^actually, the can they're shitting in was most likely made by china.
Feb 16 2004 8:41PM
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SofaKingdom
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probably but that wasn't mah point.
'I bought an antfarm once. Them fellers didn't grow shit'.
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