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Big mountain harder than park?

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telestar6
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Well I was talking to skiflake in another forum and he says park skiing is so much harder than big mountain. But I must disagree. Getting really good at big mountain takes years of honing your skills. Why do you think that most really good big mountain skiers are like 25 or thirty. But there are plenty of upcoming park rats wh are 15 or 16. I personally try to ski both a lot. I love skiing the park in the spring when there is no powder around. And personally I think gaining the skills to be a really good big mountain skier is far more difficult than park skiing. I know so many park skiers who really aren't that good at skiing but they are good in the park.

This year I hope to see more kids incorporating newschool with big mountain riding and getting out of the park.-Matt Levintal
Feb 14 2004 1:28PM
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petek
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my ability level outside the park is about 10 times as it is inside the park, so i guess its always been that way for me.



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Feb 14 2004 1:31PM
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ECfreeski3
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regardless of which one is harder, they're compleetely different types of difficulty.
big mtn is more of being a smart skier and picking good lines, which won't help you one bit when trying a dspin9
PS matt leavinthal didn't say the quote in your, and it's this year's skiing cliche anyway
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Feb 14 2004 1:34PM
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deleted000
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big mountian takes way more skill because you have to know how to ski. the park is cool every once and a while but not if your in there all the time.
Feb 14 2004 2:14PM
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iliketoski
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for me park is harder, just because i have spent so little time in the park compared to powder



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Feb 14 2004 2:18PM
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MistaSkier
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Big mountain is much much easier than park. I'm not saying I don't like big mountain or anything. I love it, but park is so much harder. It's scarier and just physically more difficult.


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Feb 14 2004 3:49PM
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J.D.
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I find park WAY harder, but that's because I've been skiing big mountain for ten years longer than park. For that reason, it's really hard to compare. But tell skiflake to huck himself down a couple double blacks out here in BC and see if he found it 'easy'. That shit's tiring.


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Feb 14 2004 4:00PM
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ECfreeski3
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i find park skiing much harder, actual onthe snow skiing skills i find easy, and i'm not just talking abotu cruising groomers
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Feb 14 2004 4:10PM
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strode
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if i'd been skiing park for 20 years and big mountain for barely a year, i'd probably think big mountain is harder.....but it's the other way around, so throw a sick BC line at me and i'm like 'fuck yeah' but throw me a triple kink 40 footer and i'm like 'uuhhh....lets go hit some kickers'



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Feb 14 2004 4:25PM
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Ds91260
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i bet half you kids have never really skied a big mountain


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Feb 14 2004 4:30PM
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I think big mountain might be a little easier. But I really have no idea.

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Feb 14 2004 7:54PM
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mikee
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Nothing is easier than anything else when you classify it so broadly! a 360 is easier than a 40 foot cliff yes... a dspin 9 is harder than a 20 foot cliff...yes. Park skiing and big mountain are only as hard as the person makes it.

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Feb 14 2004 8:07PM
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don't compaire apples and mangoos

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Feb 14 2004 8:08PM
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snowrider
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Yeah as someone said above, everyone perceptions are different. Half of the kids in here prolly think of big mtn as just skiing mtns bigger than 300ft while others think of big mtn as Jackson Hole, Alta, or crazy east coast shit.

When it comes to either hitting the 120ft tabletop at superpark or standing atop a ridiculous line in Alaska, I would be less scared hitting the 120footer. Serious big mtn you got shit where you fall you dies, avies can take you out etc. Not that you couldn't kill yourself on a 120ft superpark jump, just that you have much more control of the elements in the park than you do in serious mountains.

Feb 14 2004 8:56PM
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telestar6
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I really don't care that much. I just was trying to get some discussion going. Personally I have my own opinions and I know they won't chnge. But i'm with that one guy. I really really doubt many kids have really skied some big mountain stuff. Stuff that's really steep like 50 degree and super technical. Not many ski reosrts in the U.S. have that kind of terrain.

This year I hope to see more kids incorporating newschool with big mountain riding and getting out of the park.-Matt Levintal
Feb 14 2004 9:41PM
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Sinister
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Well...both of them test the size of your balls,so i don't really care.
If i have to choose,i'm going for Big Mountain,which i find is physically cahllenging.
Park is also challenging,but in some other way i don't really like.It's fun if you actually know how to do stuff,but for somebody like me (i've never stepped into a park until this year) it just blows at the moment.Give me another year and i might like it more.I'd very much rather ripp the pow than stay hitting some tables and rails.

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Feb 14 2004 9:59PM
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skimack
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Big mountain is not necessarily 'harder' than park but it is more intense. The consequences are higher (hurt yourself and mabe have to wait hours for a pickup, or if you're in the BC haul your own carcass out) and all the lines take visualization and focus to prevent tumbling, or taking off on the wrong part of a cliff. Park is technically more difficult in that you need to learn how to contort your body in the air, but BC lines will always have higher stakes.
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Feb 14 2004 10:26PM
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Stryken
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I'm kinda mixed about which is harder. I myself find big mountain skiing easier because I have done so much more of it, and I am a good skier. I didn't get into park stuff until recently, so I have had a lot more big mountain experience.

What do I find harder about big mountain? One thing is you have to be a VERY good skier to be VERY good at it. You have to be very strong and athletic, pick good lines, know how to ski. Trust me, you can't drop into a 70-75degree chute unless you know how to ski good.

What do I find harder about park? My lack of experience, primarily. I find certain maneuvers difficult, such as styling tricks to perfection. Balance in the air is important. Mostly I notice, however, that skiing park is something that is easier to do the more you get 'ballsy' and the more you practice it.

They are 2 entirely different types of skiing. But quite frankly, whether you are throwing a 900 off a 60 foot kicker, or doing a flip off a cliff, neither is easy for your average skier. Both are difficult. Both take skill. Both take balls. (Ladies I mean this universally.) I personally enjoy the cliff and backcountry more than hiking a park :/


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Feb 14 2004 10:52PM
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rocMALONEYphotos
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big mountain actually takes skiing skill, which most 'park rats' dont have, so i would have to say park is MUCH easier than big mountain, its more of a work out, and it takes talent and skill

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Feb 15 2004 1:35AM
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telestar6
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Good call Stryken except no one has skied anything that is 70-75 degrees. It is physically impossible for snow let alone a skier to stay on that steep of a slope. Most big mountain stuff is more like 50 degrees.

This year I hope to see more kids incorporating newschool with big mountain riding and getting out of the park.-Matt Levintal
Feb 15 2004 3:06AM
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SteveXs2
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Trying to get away from an avalanche is much harder than trying to get away from Ski Patrol.

Stopping for a breather on a super steep slope is much easier than a flat groomer.

It's much harder to get up falling into deep powder than on hardpack. Sure, it may not hurt as much, but at least if you break a leg in the park you can get to the lodge easily.

Skiing out of a tabletop is easier that skiing out of a cliff drop.

Losing control in the backcountry and hitting a rock or tree or cliff is much worse than losing control in the park and falling on your ass or running into a grommet.

Skiing the park takes a lot of repetitive motion, balancing, and coordination. Skiing big mountain / powder has all of that plus keeping an eye out for terrain that may start an avalanche if bothered, continuing to ski even though your legs are burning because it's too steep to stop is hard to do.

In the end, the big mountain is definetly more dangerous, the park can hurt more in a basic fall, but a big fall in the back country can leave you shaking and, if you lose or break some equipment, you're going to have a hell of a time getting out. There are no patrollers in the ski country, only your friends to help you out of the whole you fell in, trust me, I almost died on a facken black diamond run falling into a covered hole, if my friend didn't help unbury me and the group of skiers above us didn't pull me out, i would've either had a hell of a time getting out or i would've been stuck and died. If that happened in the backcountry and my friends couldn't find me and i didn't have a beacon, i'd be so fucked.


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Feb 15 2004 3:20AM
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MadTrix4185
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i think their way too different to compare. personally I would ski powder over park anyday but park is cool to have when it hasnt dumped in awhile. i would have to say big mt is harder becasue their are so many different aspects you have to take into consideration. when your in the park you see the jump and know theres not going to be an avalanche or tree or any of that shit when you land.
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Feb 15 2004 3:56AM
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always_ski
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Big Mtn. Show me a teenager who could even be considered with the best Big Mtn. Skiers...It just shows that park can be mastered way quicker than big Mtn
Feb 15 2004 5:06AM
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rossipowderhound
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^ yeah it takes people alot longer to learn to get really good at the big mountain skiing, But i still think park is harder, takes balls to go hit some of those tables, rails, spines, etc.... Then to be able to pull a sick move off it, Parks way harder in my opinion

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Feb 15 2004 5:24AM
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mikee
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well actually it doesnt show that I dont think. Park skiing hasnt even been around for much more than lets say 5 years. Therefore the level of progression at which park skiing is at is significantly lower than that of big mountain skiing. Im sure park skiing will be just as difficult when skiers aer skiing loop rails and doing switchups at the top and 630ing into rails while greasing the whole thing afterwards... but age has no relevance in park skiing because no one has been around long enough to give it relevance.

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Feb 15 2004 8:28AM
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Stryken
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Yah man, sure the entire RUN isnt 70 degrees, but maybe the very beginning, say, the first 4 or 5 turns could be.


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Feb 15 2004 11:48AM
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Stryken
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One more thing...to be a great park skier, you have to be good at doing tricks in the air. You don't have to be a great SKIER necessarily. You have to be good at skiing straight and fast. The SKIING aspect of the 2, big mountain is more difficult.

But both are difficult to be on the top of. I think it is very difficult to have a lot of people agree which is more difficult: Doing a corked 900 cross tail grab over a 100 foot table, or throwing a laid out back flip off a 70 foot cliff. Needless to say, neither is simple. Neither is easy to land either....

I just find that big mountain is more difficult in the skiing aspect of the 2. However, I have more difficulty with park cause I haven't been doing it as long. It is hard for most people to keep their balance and slide a 40 foot rail and then spin off.


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Feb 15 2004 11:54AM
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bigsky_gurl
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For me personally, the park is much harder, but I havent been riding the park for very long. I have the most respect for the people who kill it in the park and big mountain. Ive seen so many kids in the park who dont even know how to carve, let alone ski the steeps.



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Feb 15 2004 12:13PM
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I think of park skiing more as gymnastics with skis on that actual skiing itself.


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Feb 15 2004 2:13PM
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