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Wide angle and fisheye

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fakie_jibber
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I was wondering the main differences between a wide angle lens and a fisheye. Will the wide angle give the same roundish effect as the fisheye would ? thanks
Feb 12 2004 11:32AM
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rust
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nah. wide angle has no distortion to it. fish eye does. are you think for a stills camera or for video?
Feb 12 2004 2:42PM
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MacMahoooon
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some wide angles to have distortion depending on how curved the lens is. a fisheye is basically just an extreme version of a wide angle

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fakie_jibber
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I'm looking for a lense for a digital camcorder, and I haven't found any fisheyes for it, but I did find a wide angle, but thanks for the replies
Feb 12 2004 4:34PM
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thehellmuth
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get a wide angle


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Feb 12 2004 9:28PM
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flatspin720
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i have a wide angle for my viddy. fisheyes are dope, but i think that view gets old if it is over used, so i am pretty stoked with my wide angle
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Feb 12 2004 9:36PM
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SteveXs2
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Wideangles are something like .3x or so, and a wideangle is .5x. If you buy a fisheye, you can zoom a little bit until it's around .5x and you'll have that of a normal wide-angle converter just without the fisheye effect.


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Feb 12 2004 10:10PM
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BigDNast-EE
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wideangle does me wonders when shooting farely close shots..love it
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Feb 13 2004 2:00PM
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LC.
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Yeah - SteveXs is right. Get a 0.3 fisheye and then you still have the option of zooming in and getting a less wide angle. I have a 0.3 Raynox on my GL1 and the maximum zoom with the 0.3 in place (about half the camera's zoom range) is the same as the widest zoom without the fisheye on, so I've got a full range right there.
Feb 14 2004 6:04AM
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telestar6
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Ok the first guy is retarded. With a wide angle lense anything lower that 35mm has distortion. You won't really notice i that much until it is more like 28 mm. And you will really notice it with like a 20mm or 16mm lense. Basically the difference between a fisheye and a wide angle is that with a fish eye the distortion is around the whole lense. With a wide angle lense the distortion is only horizontal across the lense. I hope that makes sense. Personally I lkie wide angle way better. Fish eyes make everything look like some cheap skate video.

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Feb 15 2004 1:54PM
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rust
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yip i was wrong sorry. telestars is right. i found this trawling through the web - 'A rectilinear lens will preserve the straightness of lines throughout the frame, but objects at the edge become stretched, losing their proportion. These lenses are desirable for architecture. For normal appearances, keep people away from the edges.
An angular fisheye preserves the angle between two lines, but lines become increasingly curved at the edge of the frame. Subjects with recognized proportions, like people, will look best with this lens. For normal results, keep straight lines away from the edges.'
Feb 15 2004 2:53PM
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nipe
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i hope ur not using fisheye for anything but taken commercial shots of cars or something.. other than that, dont use it for film, only photography, it just looks bad.
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Feb 17 2004 12:37AM
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thehellmuth
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fisheye = alot of distortion
wideanlge = close shot but not alot of distortion


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Feb 21 2004 10:00AM
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blind_five
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They're both 'wide angle lens'. Anything below 35mm is a considered wide angle lens. Also, anything below 35mm distorts the image. And a wide angle lens WON'T give you a close shot, it's further away. If you want to do close ups you need a macro lens with a fixed focal length.

If you want a good fish-eye lens it's going to cost you $$$.

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Feb 22 2004 10:04PM
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Freestyla_01
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My fisheye is my new best friend.
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Feb 23 2004 2:16AM
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Freestyla_01
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http://www.going-nowhere.net/yabbse/attachments/shaunwidebw2.jpg
Feb 23 2004 2:16AM
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Freestyla_01
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wow.

Feb 23 2004 2:18AM
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davinci
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Get a fisheye that wont fit on it, but get your self an adaptor which will fit your lense on the cam.

That what I did so I can use my fisheye for my MidiDV and my Digital Camera!

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Feb 23 2004 11:53AM
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snowforblood
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wide-angle lenses and fisheye lenses are the same thing, its just that fisheye is the widest possible angle you can get with a lens and that is what designates it as a fisheye lens. you can see almost 180 degrees peripherally with a fisheye, but the distortion is ridiculous and you can't zoom in and maintain quality with a fisheye lens. A wide angle you can zoom in but it may get distorted if it is a pretty wide-anlge lens. A lot of people think the fisheye is good for filming such things as skiing to get close, but all it does is allow more items to be shown in the picture while rounding them all out. Essentially it makes things seem further away which is why you have to get close as shit to film with a fisheye or else its worthless, plus those closeup shots usually done with fisheyes are usually shoddy and awful. I suggest you get a wide-angle and see how that works out before you go off and get a fisheye.


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Feb 25 2004 11:48PM
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Freestyla_01
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The widest possible angle you can get with a lens is 360. They have those vertical adapters that make a circular image on the film plane... and it's the full 360.
Feb 26 2004 3:30AM
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rust
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nope, thats definately wrong. if it was 360 it would have to have everything in it including the person taking the camera . you're thinking of a 180 fisheye.
Feb 26 2004 12:36PM
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rust
Posts: 16 - Karma: 10
nope, thats definately wrong. if it was 360 it would have to have everything in it including the person taking the picture. you're thinking of a 180 fisheye.
Feb 26 2004 12:36PM
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LC.
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He's right - you can get 360 lenses, but it would look shit on a camcorder. They are really for panoramic stuff, and I've seen some nice interactive quicktime views done with them. The camera's lens sits pointing upwards then there is a mirror at the top to get the 360 view directed. They are pretty expensive though I think. You have to set it up on a timer or remote though, or else you'll be in the photo like he said. If someone took the time to learn how to use it properly then it could be pretty cool if you managed to get a good sequence made from it and made a Quicktime 360 tour with it.
Feb 26 2004 2:02PM
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Freestyla_01
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They are for photographs... they wouldn't work with video, they seem pretty fragile.
You could always lie down on the ground under the tripod with a cable release.
Feb 26 2004 8:46PM
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TimmyMcOwnsYou
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Wide angle is so much better, with a fisheye your shit just looks like a skate video or snowboard video trying to make everything look bigger than it is. If you need bigger, get a bigger jump.
Feb 26 2004 11:18PM
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rust
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wow, never new that. they must be pretty crazy, though i cant see much use for a 360 fisheye. if you're looking for style then try something different. film the entire thing on an old cine camera. i've always thought that would be a cheap way of making an interesting video. any thoughts?
Feb 27 2004 3:13AM
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RossiScratch-411
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fisheye can be used to get right up in the skiers grill and make em look bigger, wide angle just grabs more of the surroundings
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Feb 27 2004 8:51AM
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snowforblood
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alright enough with the 360 bs. yes you can do the 360 degree thing, but its not the most you can get in essence. 180 degrees in succession is the most you can get, the 360 degree shot is pieced together. but that 360 is kinda cool and makes you trip when you stare at a picture of it. anyways has anyone seen the 360 tv thing, its so awesome





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Mar 11 2004 4:02PM
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Freestyla_01
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The 360 is not a stitch. It is a single frame image, but it is a circle image on the negative.
Mar 13 2004 12:18AM
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freerider54
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someone post a pic of a 360\

Mar 31 2004 9:31PM
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Justo8484
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wide angles let you get closer to whatever you are filming while still being able to capture the entire thing instead of cropping some of it. i like it for getting shots from on top of tables, you can get the angle you want and it still keeps your subject in the frame, like laying under a person as they go over a table wouldnt really work well without a wideangle. a fisheye as said before gives you a near 180 degree feild of view, which can be useful for rails, thats about all that it really works for though, or so i have found
Apr 1 2004 10:29AM
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jensen
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fisheyes are good because they make the skier bigger, but the shit around him is smaller. so it is like the camera is more focused on the skier instead of everything else.

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Apr 1 2004 7:44PM
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