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Tight radius twns

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JstHuckIt
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I've looked at many skis over the years, but I haven't seen any twn tips with a turn radius of 15 or less. Anyone know of any? Anyone know why?
Jul 21 2009 11:06AM
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EastCoast315
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Someone more experience correct me if Im wrong, but to have much more sidecut would actually inhibit the structrual integrity of the ski. if you had 140 tips and tails, and a 75 waist, it would be so torsionally weak that it couldnt physically handle the turns youud make on it.

Thats just my guess, but I dont really know shit

Jul 21 2009 12:02PM
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I_Am_Mod
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^^ you dont need those massive tip-tail/underfoot differences to get shorter sidecuts, my slaloms have sidecut 12m and im quite sure they're stronger then my twins...

i guess freestyle skis need a certain amount of playfullness/forgiveness and therefore 15m or something is the max sidecut, any more would create a super responsive ski that will wreck you on your landings....
Jul 21 2009 12:10PM
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Lemuel
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Elizabeth's, shorter invaders and anthems, most companies have it on their websites.  My 171 invaders have a 17m radius. 
Jul 21 2009 12:35PM
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matt.rad
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a shorter sidecut will make the ski more "hooky" in turns. most people don't see that as a desirable quality.
Jul 21 2009 12:37PM
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FUUUCK
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Alpha One

Turning Radius 12.5m (170), 14m (176), 15.5m (182)


Jul 21 2009 1:14PM
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Lemuel
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It depends on what the person likes.  Some people like to fly down the hill and go straight, some people like to turn alot.  And a short turn radius does not make the ski hooky in turns, it makes it hooky going straight.  But its not that noticeable at all.
Jul 21 2009 1:44PM
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mmckechnie
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A deeper sidecut is not preferable for skiing pow and can hook on the lips of jumps.
Jul 21 2009 2:11PM
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JstHuckIt
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Alpha One?
The reason I ask is because I'm a ski instructor...All of my clinicians have like 12m, and here I am on my 16m...I you think it doesn't make much a a diff. you don't really know how to ski...so I had to go buy some flat tails last year...they have some snowboards that have really tight radius' so it really must be a lack of demand thing...
Jul 21 2009 2:32PM
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*TURBONERD*
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amplid c7. the 165 has a 12.96m and 175 has a 14.94
Jul 21 2009 3:12PM
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no_steeze
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look for something with tapered tips and tails, that way the contact point is brought closer to the center of the ski making the radius way tighter

it doesn't have to be like 150-20-150 to have a tight radius, for example, on jj's the radius is 14.3 and the dims are 136-115-123ish but because of the reverse camber tips the edge contact is brought way down on the ski hence the tight radius
Jul 21 2009 3:25PM
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Lemuel
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I am talking about park skiing.  How many kids are carving every turn down the park?  Not many of them because they are either going straight to get speed or skidding a bit to slow down for a rail or box.  Obviously a 12m and 16m turn radius will be different for carving down the hill, that is why a slalom ski usually has a radius around 12m and a gs usually around 16.  I am pretty sure I know how to ski, seeing as my dad is a ski instructor.
Jul 21 2009 4:05PM
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JstHuckIt
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My comment wasn't really directed towards you or really anyone for that matter...I thank you for your input...
Jul 21 2009 4:33PM
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Lemuel
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Yea I know, but I was the one that posted about how noticeable each ski is.  I always come off hard in posts because I like to make my point haha but I know what it is like to have skis that cannot do what you need to do. 
Jul 21 2009 6:02PM
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headlight
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The simple reason why twins are generally longer radius is that for big air, park, even pipe riders need stability on take-offs and landings.  If u have a short radius ski, which are generally a twitchy or nervous ski, u have more chance of screw up on landings and take offs. I am referencing this from some pros and skicompanies. U don't want squirrelly.

The same goes for riding in pow. U want to be in control of the ski not the other way around.

In some places u are not allowed to get your instructors or coaches certificate unless you are on a "normal mid radius ski". No slaloms or twins allowed. This forces you to demonstrate the kinda technique the examiner wantes to evaluate.

Since there is always someone who wants a quicker turning ski  - ski companies make them. We have a lot of choices today.

Jul 21 2009 11:55PM
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