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Need help with ski specs

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Slinger1x1
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alright, so i plan on making a pair of skis with 333 skis.
but I only know so much about skis, and a lot of the information i got doesn't make any sense to me, so i need your guys help critiquing and explaining these skis

Basically, I'm an east coast skier skiing everything. Most common is the crud and ice and hardpack and slush. less common is the packed pow and the very rare powder. I like to haul ass, make nice turns, ski technical lines, trees, bumps, huck what ever i can find, and things like that. Im basically looking for the perfect all mountain ski that can handle everything. i also like to screw around in the park and ski switch, but i am in no way a park skier

So i compiled some numbers from three different skis i was looking at (rossi s5, volkl bridge, k2 kung fujah) and kinda found a nice average for the dimensions.
now i need some other people opinions as

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Jul 2 2009 3:30PM
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Slinger1x1
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^sorry, click the image to enlarge

i really need someone who knows ski design and what not.
Jul 2 2009 3:51PM
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TastyZ
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Might want to make the tail a little fatter for riding switch, but everything else looks good.
Jul 2 2009 5:57PM
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Slinger1x1
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can you explain some of the stuff that's like more technical? like besides the dimensions?
Jul 3 2009 12:10AM
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Slinger1x1
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anyone?
Jul 3 2009 12:48PM
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Slinger1x1
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cmon, anyone know skis?
Jul 4 2009 2:30PM
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japanada
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Everything looks pretty good. Have you thought about making it symmetrical? 18cms or rocker I think would be the perfect amount. Im interested to see how this works out, I would be interested in getting a pair depending on the build quality.
Jul 4 2009 5:00PM
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Slinger1x1
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definitely not looking for a symmetrical ski, im looking for an all mountain twin tip that i can play around with in the park.

I'm definitely looking into getting these and well tell you how they turn out.
Jul 4 2009 5:47PM
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japanada
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Gotcha

Gotta say thanks for keying me into this site. Ive been reading on TGR about this guy and the process he uses, im 100% getting a pair once I can figure out whether I want a Moship type ski, or an Alpha 1 type ski. At $222 you cant go wrong!
Jul 4 2009 5:50PM
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panojibber
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If you're doing all mountain, and you're on the east coast, I wouldn't rocker. Traditional will give you way more flexibility, particularly for what you're doing.

And maybe mount it at -6, because that will really give it awesome all mountain performance.

If you're on the east coast, you probably don't want to lose any of your effective edge, and mounting further back and going traditional will make it a much better all mountain ski.
Jul 4 2009 7:06PM
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japanada
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^ Id say go with just a nice tip rocker, nothing too extreme, something like 15-20cms.
Jul 4 2009 11:20PM
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Slinger1x1
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should i ease up on the tail rocker? 18cm is good in the front, should i do less in the back?
Jul 4 2009 11:54PM
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japanada
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I would, Id feel that esp on ice, that much tail rocker is going to lead to some instability.
Jul 5 2009 12:09AM
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C-Weezy
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well Idk if i can give u much info but i will be hapy to hear how they turn out. and how durable they are.
Jul 5 2009 1:19AM
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newengland72
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These are the ones I will be ordering, same deal 222s. They are close, but I spec'd a narrower waist for more sidecut (for the ice)
Same rocker/camber/rocker, but I requested that the flex start very close to the -6 that I want to mount my bindings, simelar to Line's "butter zone",
My inspiration was to do Line Prophet 90s with more sidecut for the length, and rocker/camber/rocker



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Jul 5 2009 9:55PM
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Slinger1x1
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yours looks more like a rockered volkl bridge. except its softer. and your don't have that much rocker at all. i have 18 and thats supposed to be on the little side...
Jul 12 2009 7:08PM
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headlight
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maybe u can try http://www.skibuilders.com/      and go to that forum. This is for people who build their own skis. Already referenced is TGR. Maybe Powder mag forums....

There are so many ways to tweak a ski I do not want to get started. It may be better to find a last year's or cheap ski that way instead of getting a surprise at the end.

Best wishes

Jul 12 2009 10:13PM
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