ok so say its not july 16th, and its in august, there is one strip of snow left all of the way up alta or at the top of timp. are u hiking that rail up there, i dont think so. if you do congrats. then at that point i hope you desire to ski just to make a few turns. thats all im saying in my post. you jibbers really need to mellow out a bit im not hating on anybody for skiing on a rail. im saying there is time where you might not beable to hit a rail, and hopefully you want to just go turn. sans rail. see i used to hit rails too. and yes that would have been my motivation to go up to some snow back in the day would be to build a jump or hit a rail.