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Can we just bomb the living shit out of North Korea already?

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Flo_Rida_2016
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Havent made a post in a while so here goes:

First read:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/06/08/nkorea.journalists/index.html

Second read:
I personally think its time we blew the dust off our awesome nuclear warheads and "Test" them out say... (Latitude: 39° 1' 10 N, Longitude: 125° 45' 17 E (Pyongyang) and make some sweet posters out of the sweet mushroom cloud pictures after. I think its time we (the Obama administration) quits sweet talking everyone and finally just demonstrates our enormous power over our evil enemies for sweet glorious USA.

No but seriously. How can the State Department just let them steal our, albiet ultra liberal, CITIZENS and just let them sentence them to 12 years in forced labor. Don't get me wrong, I personally think these ladies are extremely retarded for stepping anywhere near 1° of global coordinates of the glorious DPRK, but still, Al Gore bitches or not, they deserve better than to be what the Chinese claim as abducted by some renegade backwards shitbox of a "state"

And this is directed towards all of Washington, not just Obama. Last year, we removed North Korea from our blacklist/axis of evil/foreign threats/ terror supporters w/e you want to call it. This appeasement must not happen. Wanna know what happened last time we appeased a head of state? Oh yeah, 6 million jews died. While sweet talk and moral equivalancy might just work in bringing peace to the Middle East, heads of state are not as easily persuaded. Where the nationals and regligious of the middle east are fighting primarily over identity, the DPRK purely wants more power, influence, security, and perhaps even imperialism? Thus there is only one question to be asked: What happened to good ol' American badassedness? Where the fuck is Bushy when you need him? We finally have a country we can legitimately go in and bomb the living shit out of, and we hold back on it.

Seriously, swim that big ol' submarine off the coast, and bring some nuclear winter on their sorry little asses. Hey Kim Jong Il, that little stroke you had last winter is nothing compared to the 2 megaton explosion about to happen all over your face.

Yeah, sit back and test your "ICBMs". When all's said and done there won't be mutally assured destruction. Only Korean (north) assured destruction, or as I like to say, KAD.

But in all seriousness, dont you think it would at least be appropriate, if not optimal to send some DEVGRU SEALs or Delta Special Forces to illegally rescue these women, much like the way Delta failed in rescuing the Iran contra hostages, or the way CIA/Moussad killed all those dudes after the olympics? Or how bout when DEVGRUs flew all the way from Little Creek, VA and parachutted off the coast of Somolia to headshot those 3 pirates and rescue that captain? C'mon man.

America: fuck, yeah.
Jun 8 2009 12:24PM
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Steezius_Maximus
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its way overdue
Jun 8 2009 12:28PM
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YooperSteeze
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You have to think of the consequences. China would most likley nuke us back, the UN would hate us, and the world would turn into a shit-hole.
Jun 8 2009 12:29PM
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andrewmeehan
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i've got homies that live in south korea and they are scared that if we bomb North Korea that Kim Jung ill will attack them.

I SAY EVACUATE SOUTH KOREA AND THEN BOMB THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF THEM!!!
Jun 8 2009 12:29PM
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Ben.
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no we cannot. that would be fucking stupid
Jun 8 2009 12:30PM
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no_steeze
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why would china nuke us, it seems like everyone hates north korea, id' only be worried for south koreans, we would have to kill everyone in north korea, just wipe out the whole country, basically if we don't, they'll do it soon enough
Jun 8 2009 12:31PM
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Ben.
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china, as of now at least, is still somewhat north koreas ally.
Jun 8 2009 12:33PM
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SKIDUBAIGUY
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Exactly, although china trade with the N Koreans their shit scared of them having nukes, they even had talks with the S Koreans about what to do, well, nothing by the looks of it atm.
Jun 8 2009 12:34PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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No nukes - it'd be a shame to ruin the land. Several strategically placed missles should do the trick though.
Jun 8 2009 12:34PM
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cheddafries
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if we did then every one would start shitting nukes at eachother and we would all die

but on the other hand nukular winter =) meaning snow

Jun 8 2009 12:35PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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China's so indifferent on the situation its not even funny. Seriously, its not funny. China take a side, or we'll take one for you. On one hand, China's got to save face and "defend" its communist little brother. On the other hand, China thinks its little brother is a huge tool and sucks dick and really wants hang with the cooler kids like the USA.

I think the UN, whatever that means, would love us bombing the shit out of norht korea. Everything the UN does, the DPRK just says, you do this, we bomb nuke! Like in april or w/e  when north korea tested a rocket, the UN was like bitch ,what? Sanctions! But then North Korea was like if you sanction us, we'll launch an ICBM. They were also like if you don't apologize, or sanction us ever again, "we will take extreme [read: nuclear] actions in retalliation"
Jun 8 2009 12:35PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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look at how much more awesome this looks:

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than this:
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Jun 8 2009 12:42PM
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dbstar
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obviously your retarded, it is well known to me, nevermind journalists, that you can't enter North Korea illegally and you definetly cannot go there as journalists to report the plight of defectors. Botom line they acted on their own accord and they knew it was illegal and now they are going to face the consequences of that, the United States isn't going to risk nuclear war for two stupid journalists, and they shouldn't. If there were to be war against North Korea this would be the last reason for it to occur.
Jun 8 2009 12:50PM
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Steezius_Maximus
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chinas' communist
north korea is totalitarian
Jun 8 2009 12:53PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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haha you obviously mistook my mild mannered nuclear threats as real... obviously we cant nuke them! now youre the retard! eat that!

And obviously the journalists are goddamn retarded, but htere is a high chance they never crossed the border. The Chinese suggest that the reporters were abducted near the border and imprisoned.

Im saying we should go to war with them over the increasing number of bullshit events taking place on that sorry penninsula this year. How many rockets and nukes are we gonna let them test with no reprimand whatsoever? How many US Citizens are we gonna let you kidnap for bargaining chips?

Lets just step aside from the middle east as Obama's popularity there is seemingly at an all time high... and literally bomb the shit out of north korea. Better yet, Obama should use that charisma of his and give a speech to terrorists and have terrorists suicide bomb North korea to bits. That would be the best case scenario for the world.
Jun 8 2009 12:56PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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...?

China is Communist.
North Korea is Communist.

China's system of government is trending liberal/capitalist
North Korea's system of government is totalitarian....


Jun 8 2009 12:58PM
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SKIDUBAIGUY
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You can enter anywhere illegally, its not a hard thing to do atall.
Jun 8 2009 12:59PM
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freestyler540
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Hold the bombing of North Korea back until I am in space, so that I can look down of the complete ideocracy  of superpower leaders and its even dumber followers and believers that destruction and horror automatically "fixes" all problems.

Really, how the FUCK are we going to progress when scum still want to fight. Dammit, why is our history filled with wars and not discoveries to enhance our lives. When will prosperity restore itself?...we were doing so well in the 60s. But now we have receded, religion and war has overshadowed scientific discovery from the 70s to today. There are more ways to destroy people than to save them. I hate this world. The leaders of today should be removed to guarantee a future for ourselves. Have you noticed the ennemy never changed since the 70s? so we are fighting the problems caused by our previous generation, and there are no signs of the end. There are always 2 parties that contribute to the problem.

You guys may can ultimately destroy each other, id rather be dead or away from this world where I have not helped at all to destroy.
Jun 8 2009 1:01PM
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no_steeze
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yes but do you think they want to be north korea's ally or they're scared shitless of breaking the alliance...?
just a thought, i dunno if they'd go as far as nuking us back
Jun 8 2009 1:01PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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Sorry, 'bro' welcome to the real world...

In the 60's we were in the midst of... oh shit what was that thing called? OH YEAH THE COLD WAR YOU FUCKING IDIOT. Go google what the cold war was. No it was not fought in antarctica. We also were involved in the vietnam war by 1959 where 58,209 US soldiers died (Compare that to 4,977 in Iraq and Afghanistan combined). Not to mention Russia threatened to compeletely destroy us with nuclear weapons by sending them to cuba... Oh yeah  A PRESIDENT WAS ASSISINATED IN 1969.

Also, do you have any clue how many inventions and scientific inventions have come as the result of war? Radar, the internet, television, modern telephones, digital mobile phones, GPS, satellites, fiber optics, penicillin, pretty much 50% of all common surgeries, modern engines, airplanes, jets, etc were all invented by the United States Military (with the exception of a few of the questionable ones in there).

I would like to see you argue that modern warfare (1970-present) has killed more people than it has saved directly (result of the military conflict) or indirectly (result of inventions, tactics, methods, and discoveries made by military)
Jun 8 2009 1:10PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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Oh yeah space travel? Oh yeah, invented, operated, maintained, funded, and developed by the military.

get your head out of your ass.
Jun 8 2009 1:11PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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Wait what? everytime i read your post i find something dumber...

Are you trying to tell me that scientific discovery from 6,000BC- 1970 AD is anywhere equal to what we have discovered from 1970- Present?! Are you joking? In 1970 we barely knew what the moon looked like on the surface, what orbit was, or how many planets there are in our solar system. In 1970s we were still baffled by the flu and had no idea what AIDs even was... We had no answers for cancer, and if someone went into cardiac arrest, boom they were a gonner. We had no idea what was healthy to eat, what whole grains were or what organic meant. In 1970 the definition of sterile was washing your hands. A scapel was less sharp than some steak knives today (;) miracle blade IIIs baby!)

Our enemies have no changed in 1970?! In 1970 our bigges enemy was the USSR. Do they exist today? No! We went from fighting symetrical warfare against a state and our primary battle was against the spread of communism. The 2 parties fought over power and hegemonic domination.

Our enemies now are for the most part Islamic extremeists fighting for identity and influence, not land and how many countries they can concquer. They fight over religion and intangible ideals, not over domination of a region. We fight assymetrical guerrillas and terrorists, not states.

Learn up dumbass.
Jun 8 2009 1:19PM
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Balto
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they are more our ally
Jun 8 2009 1:24PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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i wouldn't tip the scale in either direction. China does still veto pretty much every single UN resolution we support on the sole grounds that we support it.
Jun 8 2009 1:28PM
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OhMyBosh
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True, however, the US is where they send all their cheap t-shirts and shoes to... Without the US buying China's crap they'd be screwed.
Jun 8 2009 1:33PM
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Powdered_Donuts
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lol...
the term nuclear winter means shit will be so fucked up the only thing to fall from the sky is ash. you could prolly ski on ash tho...
Jun 8 2009 1:42PM
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JeremyClarkson
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this american dickwaving of "lets go nuke them! hell yeah america!" is getting rediculous .those two dumb broads knew if they were caught something would happen to them. they just werent prepared to suffer the consequences. its not our problem this is south koreas and chinas problem. deal with it by yourselves. why do we always have to call in america to help fight your battles. /rant

Jun 8 2009 2:06PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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because it is our battle. Lately north korea, as im sure you know if you watch any news at all, has been testing rockets, missles, and developing nuclear technology all un checked and in direct violation of UN resolutions. And theyre doing all of this to provoke mainly the USA, but all western in their words "imperialists". We can't just sit by and do nothing, eventually something bad will happen in the region, or worse it will give inspiration and motivation for even more radical and violent peoples.

And im operating under the assumption the US CITIZENS were abducted and were never actually inside DPRK.

And to further illustrate the absurd propaganda and hatred DPRK spews, this is taken directly off the english version of the DPRK state run media:

"The Japanese reactionaries are now persistently kicking up an anti-DPRK campaign, vociferating about the nonsensical "abduction issue" and "missile launch" while shelving their past crimes."

"The U.S. imperialists are apt to invent absurd pretexts for interfering in the internal affairs of other countries and do not hesitate to commit even military invasion against sovereign states in disregard of international law.

The spearhead of their aggression to deprive other countries of their sovereignty is directed to the DPRK, a bulwark for defending independence from imperialism.

Under the situation where the U.S. is posing constant nuclear threat to the DPRK after openly designating it as a target of its nuclear attack, it is entirely just for it to bolster up its nuclear deterrent for self-defence in every way under the banner of Songun and as to do so is a sovereign right and an essential requirement of the times and the nation for protecting the destiny of the nation.

The U.S. is now scheming to deprive the DPRK of its right to develop outer space and use it for peaceful purposes."


Jun 8 2009 2:15PM
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Casey
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Americaaa! FUCK YEAH!

Jun 8 2009 2:33PM
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Thenowhereman42
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Your a retard.  They would bomb us back, and then a nuclear holocaust would ensue that would destroy the entire world.  Assuming they do have the capabilities.  And if they don't then probably Japan would have a very bad day.
Jun 8 2009 3:14PM
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anxju
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they dont
Jun 8 2009 3:17PM
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Flo_Rida_2016
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I'm just gonna put it out there one more time: anyone who can't look past my obviously hyperbole of nuclear war looks like an absolute idiot. Anyone who follows it up by acting like an armchair general with little knowledge of military engagements looks even dumber.
Jun 8 2009 3:18PM
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h_bar
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hahaha, i loled


i know you americans got some damn good snipers, let them take good ol´ kim out
Jun 8 2009 3:49PM
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PhaedeD
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better be ready to fuck with iran too if we bomb north korea
Jun 8 2009 3:51PM
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Hack.The.Pow.
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this would happen

Jun 8 2009 3:51PM
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east_toast
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Or we could just avoid the nuclear holocaust and have a good old fashioned war.  You know the kind where two army's fight, the way we have solved problems for centuries without creating radiation filled craters in the earth surface. 
Jun 8 2009 3:55PM
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Mrvic.
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Jun 8 2009 3:55PM
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FUUUCK
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China is more comfortable with a North Korea than say having South Korea controlling the whole Korean Peninsula.

So I don't think they'd be too happy with the US nuking them.
Jun 8 2009 4:02PM
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Ben.
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except for yourself.... that was mildly hypocritical there..
Jun 8 2009 4:08PM
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dbstar
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no your still the retard
Jun 8 2009 4:10PM
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Ben.
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except the chinese would rather see a communist, (well really more totalitarian) country succeed than it would the god-forsaken freedom of america.
Jun 8 2009 4:19PM
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Mr.Panda
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china scares me as does russia with a case like this.  and being half japanese and having family in japan China would start with South Korea and then jump to Japan for revenge from what they did in WWII.
Jun 8 2009 4:30PM
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NESblowjob
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seriously   i wish obama would have a deathmatch in the octagon against kim jong ill and kill him with a knife to the face
Jun 8 2009 4:37PM
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Benson23
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be diplomatic maybe? have a serious talk about what they want and who wants what instead of saying you did this wrong you cant test this you cant test that. The us has thousands of icbms and nukes N.K is just trying to get on the world scale by testing shit there not bombing or invading other countries
Jun 8 2009 4:38PM
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Ben.
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while i agree that bombing is not the answer, having rational talks with kim jong il is really not realistic. the man is certifiable.
Jun 8 2009 4:41PM
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Mr.Panda
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kim jong ill is like the asian version of mike tyson..  a fucking nutjob.
Jun 8 2009 4:44PM
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gmack24
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I am fucking furious they were sentenced to 12 years forced labor. I have done alot of research about NK and these are concentration camps that are filled with citizens guilty of dissent and it's basically slavery. A complete violation of human rights, and unfit for ANYONE, especially two of our citizens. These women should be extradited and tried in the United States or South Korea...I'm almost positive the women would not survive the abuse they will receive for being from America, or the 20 hour work days for 12 years. I know we can't bomb them, but a recon mission to anonymously assasinate Kim Jong would be the next best thing. These women are in my thoughts. Fuck.
Jun 8 2009 4:49PM
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ElbridgeGerry
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There is one very small difference. Mike Tyson can rip a man to pieces. Kim Jong Il can get his goons to rip a man to pieces.
Jun 8 2009 4:50PM
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Mr.Panda
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im gonna say this though...  there is a reason why even the press is told to not go anywhere near north korea.  im not saying they had it coming and im also pissed off but its one of those things as a reporter you have to sit and think yeah, i want the story and to show the world whats happenening but is this really the right thing for me to do?
Jun 8 2009 4:51PM
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pmills
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You should remember that there were 8 known attempts to assassinate Castro, obviously unsuccessful attempts-- think about the ramifications in NK, if we went ahead with what you're calling for and failed.

also to clear up a bit about the Missle Crisis, the Cubans and the Russians had separate agendas during the course of the crisis. The Russians were worried about the missle gap (which favored the US, not Russia, despite what was said by JFK) While Cuba, on the otherhand, was affraid of a US invasion; The US actually had plans for invading Cuba in October of '62.  (American naval and military unites were already being deployed/training for an invasion before the beginning of the crisis.)

In the middle of the crisis (where there actualy was a stand off between the Russians and the Cubans over who controlled the missles) the CIA innitiated operation MONGOOSE, which blew up a factory in cuba, killing 400 people, according to the Cubans.

 Imagining back then how close the CIA terrorist activities came to ending the world (had the roles been reversed Kennedy surely would have reacted); it seems world innialation would be nearly innevitable if this went on in NK today, not only how NK would react, but the grounds that would be granted to other terror based organizations with blatant US disregard for law.
Jun 8 2009 5:15PM
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Mr.Panda
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ok, i just finished finals and am uber tired BUT...  why the fuck are people arguing about the cold war?
Jun 8 2009 5:16PM
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