I found that the fitting problem for me is that I need to use a custom footbed(will be using SOLEs) and a heel lift. I know FT liners don't come with footbeds, but can you put one in and mold the liner after that?(flattening the bottom of the liner I'm guessing making room for the footbed). And does anyone use a heel lift in FTs? Konflicts were a bit too skinny for me(not molded) but that was partly due to them having the thickest FT liner, and the footbeds move my flat feet up and sort of make room in most boots. I can get a good deal on Booters(that or an older year FT) and will change the tongues out for a 6 or a 9, so the setup would be the liners they come with molded with custom footbeds in them durring molding, using a heel lift, and changing out the booter tongue with something stiffer. here it says that footbed thing works: http://www.untracked.com/p2519c23b113-full_tilt_intuition_pro_ski_boot_liners.html