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SEABURN
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Jun 4 2009 4:35PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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Are you saying ski movies are action movies and snowboard movies are comedy?
dont just pigeonhole what people do you jerk!
Jun 5 2009 5:30PM
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the-big-lepowski
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Very controversial thread, but here's my 2 cents.  I liked it.  The creativity was good, especially at 3:30 and the pump section with lots of stalls.  However, it didn't seem very technical.  The rails themselve were good, but very few spins on/off.  The stalls were impressive, but it needed a little more enery.  And a little long for a trailer. 

Jun 5 2009 5:33PM
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Pmoore
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traveling circus is as creative if not more. And this is coming from someone who respects and enjoys skiing and filming with snowboarders
Jun 5 2009 5:53PM
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Jwenz
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i am not saying that either type of movie is comedy or action. i was just making an analogy. and to be honest with you i dont believe i ever put either movie into groups. i just think snowboard movies are better than ski movies. period. i like both. snowboarding just has an edge. i appologize for having an opinion.
Jun 5 2009 6:03PM
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SEABURN
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that's why I left a loophole in what I said. TC is amazing, and they're think thanks only comparison in the ski world
Jun 5 2009 6:34PM
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the-big-lepowski
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ahem, NS is now a certified opinion-free website.  Dear sir, kindly retract any subjective statement and logout for a while to think about the disastrously controversial subject you have set off.

Thank you, the AFBNSC (Association for Fact Based NS Content)

Jun 5 2009 7:01PM
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dilla_says_go
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cue the birds - new style of film, decent riding
patchwork patterns - new style of riding, decent tricks, ill soundtrack
thanks brain - newer style of new riding, bangers, iller soundtrack
stack footy - same style of new riding, last years bangers.. again.. still a decent flick.
cool story - same shit as stack footy, longer hair.
Jun 5 2009 7:20PM
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R.Fahey
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I think that's a great way to put it.  I loved Thanks Brain.  I thought it was creative and overall a fun movie.  Stack Footy was decent, and Scott Steven's seggy blew my mind... but the rest of the movie was repetitive. 
Jun 5 2009 7:21PM
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SEABURN
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patchwork patterns is probably one of my favorite snow movies ever, but stackfooty let me down, especially with that whack soundtrack. i really hope that cool story has something i've never seen
Jun 5 2009 7:28PM
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jamiebrowne
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agreed

i loved thanks brain, super good! changed my perspective on snow no doubt

but stack footy lacked that creativity that thanks brain had

hopefully things change for the better
Jun 5 2009 9:32PM
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ILoveOhio
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You're a fucking dumbass.  I am a rider and a filmer.  I ride every single day (unless school/other responsibilties get in the way).

1.)  They are not simply "hopping around and doing little stalls".  You apperently haven't done any of this "hopping around" because you wouldn't be calling it easy if you did.

2.)  Getting the shot is easier huh?  Try getting up at 3am with the generator gassed up, lights ready, dropin ready, shovels ready, and maybe even blow torch read.  Then you have to go to the spot, chances are there's no snow.  If there is snow you'll probably get kicked out before you even get a shot.

The stuff the Think Thank crew does takes so much skill it's retarded.  Have you seen flip tricks on a snowboard?  Have you seen somebody RUN over 50 benches with their boad trailing underneat and then riding away after?  Have you seen any of this stuff none the less tried it?  IT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF SKILL.

Unless you actually film for a movie and ride handrails and other spots.  Get the Fuck Out.

Have a good day.
Jun 5 2009 9:59PM
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The_Tim
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thats funny cause im pretty sure a majority of their stuff is done during the day, (so no 3am wakeup calls or generators) and in the lowest bust places (the rail gardens). their movies are entertaining, fun and cool to watch but when it comes down to it, the skill isn't impressive for the most part. yeah cool you did a board flip, but you did it in a public park off a 5ft jump. i dunno what you do to make your life so hard- getting shovels ready? what does that even mean? blow torches? honestly? take a note from these guys. they just go out midday and they obviously dont need to prep any shovels.
Jun 6 2009 12:28PM
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dodgeridge*rider
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thats one of the best parts ive ever seen....ever

Jun 6 2009 12:59PM
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dodgeridge*rider
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im not as excited for the entire movie as i am for gus engle jesse burtner and scott stevens parts


ill watch it...if one of my snowboarder freinds buys it
im more looking forward to the nomis/32 movie
Jun 6 2009 1:08PM
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McSlay
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I didn't see scott stevens name in the trailer did i just miss it or what? and i think the whole style of riding is sick super techinical setups that look mad fun and are very entertaining
Jun 6 2009 7:03PM
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TWoods
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hahaha
he does, don't worry.
Jun 8 2009 3:48AM
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B-runge
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i loved thanks brain
it was my favorite

especially gus's seg

but this doesnt look as impressive or fun
if you know what im sayin
Jun 8 2009 4:00AM
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HankTheTank
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The main difference I see here between most ski movies and most snowboard movies is the amount of shots that are just people goofing around and having fun while they are skiing or snowboarding. Most ski movies, with a few exceptions, to me seem like all business, like they are just out there to get banger shots, but not to have fun. I think that while this may not be the case, the lack of shots of people having fun makes it seem to the viewer that they can't relate to the people in ski movies. Snowboard movies, such as think thank movies are chock full of people saying goofy things and eating shit, just like most people do in real life. Most people cant ski half as well as the people in the movies they watch, so without the personal side of things, they get bored and don't have as much fun watching them as snowboard movies.
The moral: show more shots of actual people, not just action. Life isn't all skiing, it also is about friends and having fun, so include that in ski movies and they will be many times more fun to watch.
Jun 8 2009 6:21PM
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The_Tim
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just you wait.
Jun 8 2009 6:50PM
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.peter
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Looks sick... especially the urbana!
Jun 8 2009 7:24PM
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HankTheTank
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for what? something special coming out his year?
Jun 8 2009 7:27PM
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The_Oakley_Kid
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i take it your not a fan of the traveling circus then?
Jun 8 2009 10:06PM
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TWoods
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They actually do large things, and the mini jibs they do are impressive. that's just edits of people goofing around and having fun, too, not movie level shots, and not people trying to make a movie.
Jun 9 2009 1:18AM
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HankTheTank
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The point of a ski or snowboard movie is to show how much fun you had during the season, not to show everyone how badass you are because you can do a switch double cork 1440 or some "movie level shot" in your definition of what a movie should be. Yes movies should be about progressing, but that should be secondary to sharing with everyone how great of a season you had. The whole "progression" thing seems to make people lose focus on what they are skiing for, yes it is good to get better at skiing and so some cool tricks and whatnot, but if it isn't fun then why the hell should anyone do it. It is stupid to say that just because something isn't huge or dangerous that it is not movie worthy. Some of my favorite days skiing are spent just dicking around on little jumps and rails, not doing anything particularly dangerous, but just reveling in the fact that snowsports are some of the funnest things in the world.
Jun 9 2009 4:58PM
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The_Tim
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you're a fucking idiot. im sorry but have you ever gone out into the bc or to an urban with friends to film? its some of the most fun times out there. so what if they included bangers instead of filler shots of tickling each others' balls? doesnt mean youre trying to be badass. it means youre putting out footage to impress  people, which in turn they will reconize and buy your movie next year.
Jun 9 2009 7:54PM
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HankTheTank
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I don't think you get it. Im not saying that they shouldn't include banger shots and that stuff, but they should also include shots of them having "some of the most fun times out there". Also you're a douche.
Jun 9 2009 7:58PM
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SEABURN
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it seems the two of you are just looking for different things in a snow porn movie. I'm sure if you watched thinkthanks new movie there'd be some shots you'd like in it, but the wouldn't be the same for both of you. you can't straight up say these guys are bad, they just aren't your style. so since it is my thread, I'm just going to say you guys need to agree to disagree, becasue this isn't going anywhere.

whether you like this crew or not is irrelevant they are good snowboarders, and i've ridden with a few of them and they all slay. if they don't tickle your fancy, go wack off to more twall footy.
Jun 9 2009 9:47PM
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.peter
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I agree with you about snowboarding being WAY more creative and interesting to watch
But you should watch some of the SURFACE edits from this year as well as anything with MAX HILL and the Joystick movie from last year...

THERES STILL HOPE FOR SKIING!!!
Jun 9 2009 10:36PM
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meowshred
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i met jesse burtner and he is the fucking shit coolest dude ever, also when i was a hood i saw scott stevens buttering around, it was magical

Jun 9 2009 11:11PM
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SEABURN
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I am quite the fan of both of those dudes. I've seen the stuff, they are good and creative, but it doesn't show in their edits. and I don't think these dudes are going to bring what skiing needs to the table.
Jun 9 2009 11:24PM
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TWoods
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Sorry man, but you are talking about what you like in a movie. You don't understand what part ski movies have in the industry.

Before I tell you what I"m talking about, this DOES NOT apply to Think Thank, becase they are filling their niche whatever. good for them. You are arguing a personal preference like it's a fact.

MOST ski and board movies are about money. Production companies want the most epic shots to make the most money. You need to mix that with a feel-good vibe of some sort to market to everyone. To MOST of the riders, getting banger shots is important, because that mean incentives from sponsors, which is how they get paid. For ski companies, they want to see their riders getting bangers, because it makes their company look good.

On top of that, you say "but if it isn't fun then why the hell should anyone do it. It is stupid to say that just because something isn't huge or dangerous that it is not movie worthy."
Well, that again is based on personal preference. All of the sponsored athletes that I know ENJOY doing things that are huge and dangerous, and although dicking around is always fun, it's not as much fun as pushing it hard for them.

Think thank obviously does their own thing. They are a small company that has lots of fun and does little pokey bonky things in their videos, and somehow they get by in life and make enough money to produce another low-budget movie the next year. GREAT FOR THEM, REALLY. But saying "the point of a ski movie is to show how much fun you had" and basically that my opinions of what I like to see in movies is not what ski movies about is ignorant, and pretty retarded, because you are telling me that personal preference is some sort of fact. It's not. I

salute small companies because they somehow make it happen, bust most people (even people that do it because they legit love it) are still looking to make some money.
Jun 10 2009 2:27AM
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wh@t
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seaburn i love you, so just to save you here, i think hes on your side. saying that he thinks snowboarding is more creative than skiing these days. check teh postz dawg.
Jun 10 2009 8:41AM
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HankTheTank
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So you don't like to have fun? I'm not sure what you are arguing here but you kinda misinterpreted what i was saying pretty badly. Im not talking shit on any of your personal preferences, but  I am saying that ski movies should add more of a personal element along with all of what they already do. Why that is such a big deal I am not sure.

Also you talked about money in ski movies. I remember something about Mike Douglas talking to some kids at Jib Academy saying that If kids thought that they could make a bunch of money skiing, then they should think again; They would really have to love skiing to make a career out of it because there really isn't that much money around to make people money. What is the point of selling your soul to sponsors for a couple extra shots in a movie. Do sponsors hate fun too?


Watch the Legend of Ahhh's trailer.

http://www.legendofaahhhs.com/

"There was a whole group of men who traveled the world and they would come back and make what was called a travel lecture film. Well the whole idea was to go skiing. It was never anything other than to go skiing. I thought man this is a great way to get a lift ticket."-Dick Barrymore
Jun 10 2009 4:53PM
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TWoods
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if you can't understand what I'm saying, you should probably try and read it again.

You just responded with a bunch of the same things I said. Starting your post with a stupid rhetorical question is not recommended either.
Jun 10 2009 8:55PM
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skiEER
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me like
Jun 11 2009 12:25AM
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HankTheTank
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I know what you are saying. You just misinterpreted what I was trying to say. You seem to feel that what I was advocating is incompatible with what you felt was necessary in a movie. Its not. I never was trying to argue that. Don't act like a superior asshole. You may not be one but that is what you are coming across as.
Jun 11 2009 4:02PM
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The_Tim
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no he's really not like that in person. he's an elitist asshole. get it right.
Jun 11 2009 5:19PM
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jksl
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sam hulbert is sick! stoked for his part.
Jun 11 2009 5:41PM
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HankTheTank
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Ohh sorry. Makes sense since he knows exactly what all film companies need to do to make an acceptable movie. And he knows all about the ski industry.


Jun 11 2009 5:46PM
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The_Tim
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hope thats not sarcasm boy...  cause he's pretty involved.
Jun 11 2009 5:51PM
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HankTheTank
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All im saying is he's a douche.
Jun 11 2009 8:03PM
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TWoods
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Hahahaha.

I'm telling you that you don't know how to argue, and that the way you say things doesn't make sense.

And really, you don't know anything about me. I work in multiple sections of the ski industry, including video production, so yes, I do in fact know all about what I'm talking about.

It's easy to come off as a douche online, sorry for that.
Jun 11 2009 11:00PM
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Ben.
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i fucking hate gus engle though. idk why, something about him just bugs me
Jun 12 2009 12:36AM
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