got these at my local shop thinking they were going to be a sick boot for me, turns out my foot is way too wide and they're just not right for me. If i had a smaller foot they seem like they would be a SUPER nice, functional, comfortable boot for park and all mountain shredding. they are in MINT condition, only used 2 ski days (about15 runs per day) and i didnt ski hard on them at all because they didnt fit right and made my ankles sore. They are, of course, a little marked up on the soles from walking in them in the parking lot. but other than that, this is a new boot. paid a little over 400 which i guess was half off of retail. So, i think I would start asking around 400 shipped for them, or best offer. let me know if your interested. thanks. oh and they do not have the ID liner.