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Bio vs. Rodeo Debate.

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underflipped
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Having a large debate about bios and rodeos.

My friend believe that bio do not exist and are made up. He says anything beyond Rodeo 7 is just called Bio, however it doesn't really exist. If someone attempt or does a bio its automatically a rodeo not a bio. He says that CR Johnson wasnt doing a bio, but a rodeo.

I say that rodeos beyond 7, are rodeos over a 7 look like a rodeo 5 with straight spinning. Rodeo are a more backward spinning rotation, while bio is more foreward rotation toward misty. And bios exist.


Can rodeos be confused with bios?
May 24 2009 12:52AM
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Yung_Gnarley
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not even a little bit
May 24 2009 12:52AM
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quixotic
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rodeos can't be confused with bios. both exist, and are thrown differently. bios are not thrown like mistys.
May 24 2009 12:55AM
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williams
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fast spinning rodeos can be confused with bio. but considering bios havnt been done since CR johnsons bio 1440 id say that bios are basically fast mellow rodeos.
May 24 2009 12:56AM
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Billups
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They're like, not even close to similar. Your friend is dumb.
May 24 2009 2:48AM
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jsaya_SagStraps
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I know people that bio..

and I've been trying to get one.
May 24 2009 4:00AM
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CHARLES.BRONSON
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i always thought of em as those bs 7s andreas wiig  does off his heels, which is kinda set like a rodeo, but crs shit was different for sure.
May 24 2009 4:50AM
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RudyGarmisch
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No. Picture the skier going left to right in a sequence off any park jump.

In a bio, the rider corks head first. Never gets fully inverted.

In a  cork, the rider corks head back. Never gets fully inverted.

In a d-spin, the rider corks head back, but gets inverted (feet over head).

In a rodeo, the rider sets head back. Does a full inversion.

In a misty, the rider sets head first. Does a full inversion.


May 24 2009 5:36AM
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lineC88
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bios CAN be done by ppl other than pros!!
kid at my mt. kills them up to 900
plenty of ppl can do them they just arent a "popular" trick
May 24 2009 10:26AM
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japanada
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This!

I think bios on tramps and boards are way easier than corks. I have tried bios before on the snow too, not corks though.
May 24 2009 11:19AM
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TWoods
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exactly. I don't know how anyone could confuse a bio with a rodeo, they are thrown completely differently. Some people confuse rodeos and flatspins, that's more understandable.
May 24 2009 12:16PM
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GetPitted
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2:12?

Two days at Park City with The News from John Prows on Vimeo.


May 24 2009 12:52PM
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sirskizalot
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Your friend = dumb.
May 24 2009 1:33PM
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m.brus
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Yes. I have been trying to tell people this for ages
May 24 2009 1:51PM
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Smuffy
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my friend, i believe theyre both bio
May 24 2009 2:00PM
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Totes_Magotes
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i'm scared of sounding ridiculous... but...

cork    opposite is    bio

misty      opposite is    rodeo

flair      opposite is    branny.. and so on

rodeo and bio, difference being full inversion and revert back to orginal position

May 24 2009 2:24PM
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Holte
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They're closer to mistys than any other rotation. I could see how a bio could be confused with a misty, just as a flatspins are sometimes confused with rodeos.
May 24 2009 2:38PM
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n8myton
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bio is spinning while leaned forward, but not inverted?
so is this bio?
May 24 2009 3:02PM
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R.Fahey
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90% of Rodeo 9's or 10's are just bios.  you can't stay inverted long enough to make it like a true rodeo.. you just set it like a rodeo but dip out of it right away.
May 24 2009 3:20PM
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PhilboydStudge
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i never would have thought that made sense until watching some of those videos but that does make sense
May 24 2009 5:02PM
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Alex_G
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everybody else shut the fuck up
May 25 2009 4:35PM
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B-runge
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May 25 2009 4:59PM
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reBlocke
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Whoa, I can't believe how many of you think they are so different.  There's almost no difference between a rodeo and a bio for a big spin. 
May 25 2009 6:54PM
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VCharette
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yep and to whoever saying bios arent done anymore, me and my friend can throw bio 9's and bios are wayyy baller but they look a lot like rodeos on big spins
May 25 2009 7:00PM
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RMillz
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can a rodeo 5 look like a bio 5?

44 secs in is this a rodeo or bio?
May 25 2009 8:31PM
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quixotic
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That was a flat 5
May 25 2009 8:36PM
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CHARLES.BRONSON
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aha, arent flat 5s basically bio 5s? I mean half the time people are calling rodeos flatspins, i think snowboarders are right, there all rodeos. some are upside down, some not so much.
May 27 2009 12:33AM
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Z_rob
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THIS!!!
May 27 2009 12:46AM
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Elg
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those were all bios or just straight spins. i didn't see him go inverted once in that video.

Rodeo9s and 10s (and up) are rarely actual rodeos, the skier never goes completely inverted (feet above head).
May 27 2009 12:49AM
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Langdal
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Flat 5s are not bio 5s. In a flat 5 you rotate around the vertical axis while in a bio 5 you rotate around the axis going through your body (horizontal) when completely "bio'd" / corked.
May 27 2009 10:17AM
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Langdal
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meant to say "... which is horizontal when completely "bio'd"/corked".
May 27 2009 10:18AM
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FUUUCK
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You can call that what you want, but I see a flat spin
May 27 2009 2:00PM
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stickerz
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are you talking about James Rullo, because I saw him do one and he straight up stomped it.  btw, he's only like 14.
May 27 2009 4:50PM
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Moonshine
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this is definitely right. exactly what i though.

cork is spinning "backwards" like throw you shoulder down and back. your feet dont ever go above your head. bio is the opposite. you spin forwards. so if you cork and throw you left shoulder back, you bio and throw is forward and down. rodeo is thrown back but your feet go above your head. misty is the opposite but forward. definitely.
Oct 8 2009 6:20PM
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daytripper67
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ill throw my 2 cents in
misty- basically an off axis front flip with a spin. picture running up to a table, dipping your right shoulder down to the left, and rolling over the table
bio- uninverted misty
cork- pretty obvious
d spin- cork that goes inverted
rodeo- basically a lincoln with a spin. if youre gonna split hairs it should be thrown to the side and back

therefore a bio is not like a rodeo really
Oct 8 2009 6:27PM
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DBeck
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so many dumb kids on here... a pro just needs to make an edit with every trick (bio, cork, rodeo, flat, etc...) label each trick then make a thread and have it stickied.
Oct 8 2009 6:33PM
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Moonshine
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that would be sick
Oct 8 2009 6:42PM
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nonexistant
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Just to jump in, I would say that I have found bio to be set the same as a rodeo, except without the roll over the shoulder and instead just the rotation....my personal experience.Everyone seems to have a slightly different way of setting and performing their tricks, Rowens definition has it sorted though.
Oct 8 2009 6:48PM
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Moonshine
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you're definitely right
Oct 8 2009 6:50PM
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BrownEyeIn
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true rodeo 9 = collin collins in the extras of turbo hood shoot
Oct 8 2009 7:28PM
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bret
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if you look at old footy, you can see an important difference between the two in big spins. for a bio, the big dip comes after the first 360, whereas for a rodeo, the big dip is right off the lip, and the spin flattens out after that.
Oct 8 2009 7:28PM
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Download-My-Apps
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bios and rodeos are no where close to each other. Bio= opposite of cork not inverted.

not many people do them anymore

1:48


Oct 8 2009 7:52PM
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daytripper67
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bio? i think you meant to say 2:05 and 2:33
Oct 8 2009 7:57PM
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whipple
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your all fuck ups

a rodeo that never goes inverted is a flat spin, a misty the never goes inverted is a bio, end of story
Oct 8 2009 8:58PM
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OrangeName
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yes PLEASE! it would be sooo helpful, this shits soo confusing
Oct 8 2009 9:15PM
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icon1234
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Any rodeo past a 9 is pretty much bio in terms of what the actually definition of each trick is. However there is a pretty clear difference between how each trick is set, so people just call the trick how it was original set.  So that's why its called a rodeo 10 even though it technically looks like a bio 10; because the skier set it as if they would in any normal rodeo spin but just spun so much that they did not go inverted enough to become a "true rodeo".
Oct 8 2009 9:20PM
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heFF
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these are 2 perfect examples..watch this video and you will all understand
Oct 8 2009 9:23PM
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daytripper67
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yeah first one's a bio 9 and second one's a bio 12
Oct 8 2009 10:41PM
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B-VUR
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poops

Oct 8 2009 10:47PM
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BULLSEMEN
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bum shot at 1 32
Oct 8 2009 11:34PM
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ajax
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Exactly.

Also, Rowen has it on lock down, read his post.
Oct 8 2009 11:35PM
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