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Because getting THAT worked up over abortion and stem cell research is asinine, IMO.
me also. not that i'm gonna say that the other posts in this thread are unvalid, but fuck, there are really some ignorant posts in this thread, of people automatically jumping on the obama bandwagon, because there's "hope". i could write a whole page about this, but i'm not gonna get into this right now, too many people that will flame me because they dissagree.
Okay first point, somewhat valid. However, all presidents like to take credit for economic growth and then say, "well this whole economic thing... its complicated!" when the economy takes a downturn. This isn't unique to Obama. He's a politician just like everyone else. Good job sleuth.
Second point: pretty much total BS. Lets not forget that it was the Bush administration that supported the 800 billion dollar bank bailout. This was in place before Obama took office, and most "free market" conservatives even supported it because the credit markets were frozen and they actually listened to economists when they were saying the market was about to collapse. It wasn't a pretty fix, but it was a long time in the making, and a systemic problem that should have never been allowed to fester to the point that it did. Secondly, the Iraq war has cost the United States a trillion dollars since it begun in 2003. Considering the fact that even most conservatives will admit privately that it was a profoundly stupid thing to do, I believe that's the sound of your second argument falling apart. Okay moving on..
Third point. Look beyond the mainstream media. This doesn't mean go straight to your favorite wackjob conservative blog and accept what they say as fact. Its true that CNN and MSNBC are dispicable sources posing as legitimate news outlets. The news-for-profit industry makes everyone dumber. Fox News is equally if not more guilty of this. A working knowledge of current events around the world takes a while to accumulate, and even people that have dedicated their entire lives to trying to understand the economy debate these things. It doesn't mean that every pissed off teen is entitled to a "correct" opinion. If you listen to unbiased new sources for long enough you start to let go of knee jerk radicalism and simplistic ideological characterizations of what are actually really complicated issues.
FYI: please don't quote reply me either, I'm drunk and I don't give a fuck beacuse you probly won't read this carefully enough to make a rational response anyway.