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HOW TO MAKE THE SKI INDUSTRY "GREENER" +K

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coop-son
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ANy THoughts/ideas?

Its for a project, anything from mountains carbon footprint, to solar and wind energy. to the FIrst Step from Mark Abma. Thanks guys.

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May 10 2009 6:38PM
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Pman13a
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im sure they get a lot of water run off, and i know a lot of them gather the water for snowmaking, but they could make a water turbine thing for when the water streams down the hill to offset electricity usage a little bit.  Also a wind turbine field at the top of the mountain would be sick, its so windy up there
May 10 2009 6:42PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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Ski Dubai is super green....not
May 10 2009 6:42PM
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i.am.a.skier.
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afterbangs
May 10 2009 6:46PM
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49566738265
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Mass transportation to and from the mountain would be good.  AKA trains, buses, or spaceships.
May 10 2009 6:51PM
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D_War
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use the turning of the bull wheel to generate electricity
May 10 2009 6:51PM
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AK-Freeskier
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Installing wind turbines
Installing solar panels
Using more environmentally-friendly wax
Consider green clear cutting techniques when clearing land for ski runs in wooded areas.
Use more efficient machinery and use renewable energy to power chairlifts, lodges

Oh and most importantly, purchase hybrid powered cats to groom. Kidding, but seriously....

Hope this helps. Also, searchbar and you might find some more good information....
May 10 2009 6:54PM
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yellav
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surface green lifes
May 10 2009 7:02PM
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*TURBONERD*
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this
May 10 2009 7:05PM
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Joshua.
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new salomon bamboo/marijuana skis? just a thought...




haha
May 10 2009 7:17PM
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nickyp
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employ prisoners to pull people up the slopes by hand, thus solving two problems: overuse of electricity and prison overcrowding
May 10 2009 7:23PM
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Caveman.
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*facepalm...
May 10 2009 7:29PM
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Caveman.
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Not a bad idea. Seriously, think of all the down hills they do (half the time spent grooming should be going downhill) where a generator could be running.
May 10 2009 7:30PM
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Caveman.
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Theres some good stuff in here as well.

https://newschoolers.com/web/content/viewcult/action/view/id/4528/
May 10 2009 7:31PM
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Twaddler
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Jiminey in western Mass installed a huge wind turbine which cut their energy consumption by around 40%
May 10 2009 7:32PM
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49566738265
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Actually, best idea yet.  If you had a few hundred prisoners just turning a pulley system, boom free and green power.
May 10 2009 7:32PM
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skiminnesota
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o kip, it needs so much more than just a face palm........ im bringing out the big guns...
hahaha

Click for larger image

i like the train idea. if it were affordable (not WP) and ran at good times ide definitely use one.
May 10 2009 7:35PM
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Official_Recap
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Green Ski Wax- check them out:

http://www.greenskiwax.com/index.html
May 10 2009 7:38PM
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joelle+cowbell
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run all the cats on biodiesel

encourage carpooling

offset ski resorts' electricity consumption with wind power

make sure skis don't end up in landfills?
May 10 2009 7:42PM
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coop-son
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bump
May 10 2009 8:08PM
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geet
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this
May 10 2009 8:10PM
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Caveman.
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Do you have more details on the project?

Have you tried Google?

You cant expect NS to do all your homework.
May 10 2009 8:11PM
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Snowgoner
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carpooling to get to the mountain
using a hybrid to drive you up to the mountain

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May 10 2009 8:21PM
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rj.
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hiking.
May 10 2009 8:28PM
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coop-son
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naw dude ive used google, and im not having NS do my homework, just was wondering what other skiiers would think
May 10 2009 8:37PM
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BKlein
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In the summer take off the ski racks which increases mpg by reducing drag.   Also, in lift lines, you could put in speed bump type things.  When skied over, the bump would compress turning gears below and creating energy.
May 10 2009 9:13PM
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chickenwang
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liar.

your cheating im telling!

May 10 2009 9:19PM
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Caveman.
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?
May 10 2009 9:20PM
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coop-son
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its a project for the envirothon, a dumb competition i gotta do for AP envi sci.

It is what it is, how things could be cost effective would be a nice touch to the project. But its how to be more eco friendly, is what ur project is on, then u have to do Field Events and some other bs. thanks again

Cam your cheating

May 10 2009 9:28PM
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Caveman.
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Well definitely check out the planet earth cult. There is some really good stuff in there that you could apply to the ski industry as well as a good thread about Jiminy Peak.
May 10 2009 9:37PM
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geet
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paint all ur shit green? lame joke i know
May 10 2009 9:49PM
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Che~
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some way to get electricity greener
and most definetly, GREENER SNOWGUNS,
May 10 2009 10:05PM
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heFF
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take grass to the ski area :)
May 10 2009 10:18PM
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prophet
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self destruct.

though this looks certainly more helpful than greenwashing...
May 11 2009 2:59AM
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RudyGarmisch
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Good Christ in a handbag.
May 11 2009 3:08AM
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cousinmark
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stop supporting resorts,,,,,,period, ski resorts is somewhat like the rape of a mountain,,,,,,i say this as some who grealty profited from and enjoyed ski resorts(still do), chair lifts summit lodges and all that but the fact remains there is nothing green about the ski industry even if for the most part people who love skiing often appreciate nature,,,,,,,,if you wanna be green , do it your self, dont go to resorts........plus when you buy a lift ticket depending where you buy,,,,,,your giving your money to someone or some organization with questionable morals..
May 11 2009 6:56AM
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Jwenz
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indoor stuff...change to better light bulbs, update cooking things to more environmentally friendly devices (ie fans that only run when they need to)...encourage recycling indoors. and obvi wind turbins (jiminy peak is a good example)...snow making ponds are good too cause its their own water not purchasing
May 11 2009 9:31AM
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sconniestyle
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this is one of the easiest and most effective things skiers can do to "green" the industry.

you should see all the solo cars going up the cottonwoods.

i understand that every time you go skiing you can't always carpool, but if there were incentives by the resorts for carpooling ( i know some places already have them) that were advertised and perhaps tied in with a public transport program already in place, that would motivate many people to meet at their homes, not at the mountain.

even 5$ voucher off a ticket or the cafeteria or something would be a start.

May 11 2009 10:36AM
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noparking
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sorry to burst everybody's bubble, but if you try to run machinery off bio diesel the fuel will jell up in the cold conditions and it will ruin a couple hundred thousand dollar piece of machinery 
May 11 2009 10:42AM
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vincentlee223
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Instead of using the chairlift, use tall tees as sails to get up to hill.
May 11 2009 10:56AM
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GreekAR6
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Are you serious?
May 11 2009 11:55AM
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Caveman.
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bahaha hahaha
May 11 2009 11:57AM
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joelle+cowbell
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aspen already runs their grooming machines on biofuel. and sugarbush resort did a report a couple years back on the viability of biofuel on the mountain. you can put an anti-gelling additive in the fuel so it will continue to run in colder conditions. the performance of the machines run on biofuell was on par with the machines when run on petrodiesel.

sure, biofuel is more expensive than regular fuel right now, but experts expect us to hit a serious oil crisis soon. as demand for biofuels increase it is only going to become more affordable. it is economically and environmentally logical to branch away from a resource that is limited and invest in a renewable, clean resource that can be manufactured here in america.
May 11 2009 11:58AM
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alev
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your typical ski resort isnt green. and its hard to make an area that is predominantly clear cut and powered by fossil fuels more reliable on renewable energy. like someone said, more stuff in the lodge can be cleaner and use renewable sources of energy, LED lights, derive their power from wind or solar or even hydro if they have the ability. they should convert their cooking waste into biodiesel to power cats and snowmobiles
May 11 2009 12:01PM
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joelle+cowbell
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this is a cool idea. i see huge escalades and suv's with just one guy in them all the time!

maybe when you go to buy your season pass, the mountain would give you a $50 discount if you sign a statement saying you will use carpool/public transport.

i just wish there was a better way to hook up rides than craigslist. if there were like a facebook for carpooling.....
May 11 2009 12:03PM
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Rez4frederick
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Grow weed on the ski hills during the summer months
May 11 2009 12:04PM
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nickyp
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Instead of using fossil fuels, we burn old tall tees. A Henrik Harlaut-sized tall tee, when on fire, could power a village the size of Whistler for a week.

Or, we find some way of harnessing all the 'thug' energy from the slopes, which is given out every time someone afterbangs, puts on a pair of full tilt, or uses the word 'jea'
May 11 2009 12:09PM
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.Roockley.
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Be aware of your environmental impact as skiers and boarders
Educate yourself about your environmental impact on the mountains, and what you can do to minimise it. Do not leave litter on the slopes
When the snow melts, the litter will still be there. Bin it or take it home. Orange peel takes up to two years to break down, and cigarette ends up to five years. If you find litter on the slopes, do the right thing - pick it up. Respect the natural habitat of mountain animals and plants
If you ski through trees, you can damage them by knocking off branches and killing young shoots under the snow. Take care. Many areas are out of bounds to protect the natural habitat of animals and plants - not just for safety reasons. Choose a resort which uses environmentally friendly practices
Many resorts now use bio-diesel fuel in piste-bashers, solar panels for heating, hydro-electricity/wind energy for power and a host of other initiatives. Some resorts use the International Standards Organisation (ISO) 14001 as a mark of their environmental credentials. Encourage tour operators to adopt green policies
Find out if your tour operator offers train travel as an alternative to flying, if they use paper from sustainable forests for their brochures, if they use, for example, low-wattage light bulbs in their chalets and bio-degradable detergents. Do your bit to reduce global warming on holiday and at home
Re-use your towels each day, re-cycle household waste and switch off electrical appliances when not in use. Reduce CO2 emissions
By flying fewer miles, or switching from air to rail, you can help reduce the volume of greenhouse gases that contribute to climate change. When possible, use your bike instead of your car.
May 11 2009 1:42PM
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.Roockley.
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http://www.skiclub.co.uk/skiclub/respectthemountain/environment/default.aspx

check that out, loads of info there

what you can do
what resorts do
etc
May 11 2009 1:44PM
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coop-son
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BUMPSKI
May 11 2009 7:47PM
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prophet
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It's really not that hard. the entire concept of conervation is to use less and reuse more. so, recycle frier grease into biodiesel, maybe compost food waste and grow potatoes etc. for use the following season or in off season food service. eliminate waste in offices, reduce electricity use. make it all standard practice. a significant difference can be made with a minimum of effort still because most people do nothing.
May 11 2009 8:00PM
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