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4frnt msp or trouble makers
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yo should i get the 1704frnt msp or the 170 trouble makers i am 5'8' i ski mostly park and want a soft buttery ski but it still has to be durable.
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170 trouble makers?
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TMs for what you described
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TMs for what you described but i have both and i like the MSPs better, but im pretty tall so i like the 92mm underfoot
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If you ski mostly hardpack the TM would be a more ideal ski. I don't know about the MSP, seems like a 90mm somthin waist is good for pow ridin?
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'soft buttery ski but it still has to be durable.
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Dont get the MSP's then. Don't get me wrong, they own the TM's, but are anything but soft. They are one of the stiffest skis Ive ever skiied on, and that with some racing skis in there too
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i ride 4frnts and you should ride TM's
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there is no such thing as 170 tms. u must be thinking of the 175s
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Tm's i'd say, especially if you want a soft ski
not that tm's are soft except in the tail, but 4frnt's are probably the stiffest on the market
and 92 underfoot just seems pointless unless you never ride hardpack
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4frnts' are def not the stiffest on the market.....stiff yes, but the arv is damn close, and the BC's are probably more stiff, not to mention airstyle nt's which are twice as stiff as anything
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4frnts' are def not the stiffest on the market.....stiff yes, but the arv is damn close, and the BC's are probably more stiff, not to mention airstyle nt's which are twice as stiff as anything
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Trouble Makers
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If you're skiing mostly park, I'd probably go Trouble Makers. 4Frnts are probably better if you're going all around, but they can be a touch heavy in the park if you're not used to a heavier ski.
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ok hey other then the topsheet dow durable are the TM'S???
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dude i broke my 182s with only 20 days, i broke the tail on my troubles and if you break them the factory is out so warranties will take you forever
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the topsheets are pretty good. they have a coating that will scratch up though. so far my 182's are holding up. but i wouldnt say there much lighter then the msp's anyway. either way you cant go wrong i just think the msp is a bit wide for all around. wait for the SPL model.
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Neither, they're both bloody stiff skis, not buttery at all. AR5s would work, or Scratches, or Fugatives, or half the Line skis.
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If you want some soft skis.. get the Atomic Tweak. I only rode them once, but really like how soft they were...TMs are pretty soft tho..
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MSP's arent heavy...The actually very light. Thats compared to armadas, 1080's, and scratch's
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4frnts....just cause they look betta....i realyl have no idea, ive never skied either of them
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