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There's been something that's been buggin me for awhile and you guys are the experts. Can you carve on flex really? I have only been on it once at Woodward Copper. Because you're going from snowflex ramp to foam pit, they can't have it as wet as it seems like they run it in the UK. The way they had it prepped it did not feel like you could carve on it at all.
I've seen some pretty sick snowflex features, can you actually carve off a hit on it, when it's prepped right? Thx.
I am working on a water ramp splash pool facility in Denver. My expereince at Woodward at Copper, kind of harshed my mellow. Skiing on their snowflex ramp was not what I expected at all. At first it actually felt like I had no inside edge control and I was just going to go straight into the splits. After a few runs I adjusted, but it was still not even close to the kind of expereince I wanted for my facility.
Do you guys do anything different with your skis for dry slopes? Are there certain slopes that are better than other? With as long as dendex and snowflox have been around, there have got to be some places that have tweaked their hills a little to make them perform better. Again, thanks for the help UKers.
Thanks for that link. I have spoken on the phone with the Snowflex guys. This was almost 2 years ago but they pretty much slammed the door on me. They said they wouldn't even look at projects that were under $10 mill. US. They were really arogant. This Astro Gelande stuff sounds pretty promising too. Sounds like it's been around about as long as Dendix. Does anyone have experience on that stuff?
I know that I am shamelessly plugging you guys for info, but if you check out my website it'll be easy to figure out why. My goal is to create water ramp features that will be the most realistic possible. For that reason, it is key to have hits that you can carve into. My experience with snowflex kind of left me less than impressed. I am posting a vid about Neveplast. Based on this vid, it looks like even little kids are actually carving on this stuff. Deos anyone have experience on Neveplast slopes?
http://media.nscdn.com/uploads/member/videos/1241915800np30-mottarone.wmvSelf Edit: Josh Herant : stoke from RaffSkier on Vimeo.
rossendale + tamworth from RaffSkier on Vimeo.
Sweet, that's awesome. So on the snowflex like hills. Were they running those wet or dry?
Also I'm trying to get some comments from someone who has done the Neveplast stuff. Huck and Splash will be in Colorado. It's basically a desert. If I use snowflex, then I will have to spray it with water to get it to ski right. That means my water bill will be ginormous. Neveplast claims that they have the same slide coefficient as natural snow and the vids look like even kids are able to get a decent carve on it. It has those thumb snapping holes in it, though it doesn't look as bad as Dendix.
Another one I'd like to get comments on is Astro Gelande. They say there are some UK hills that have this stuff on it. It says that it is some kind of matrix system with polypropylene beads in it. Propbably wouldn't be able to use it because enviro folks will get pissed.
Someone also mentioned permasnow, but it sounds like that stuff has to be wet too.
Thanks a ton. Great info. My goal is to make this as close as possible to park hits on snow. I think I'm kind of leaning toward the Neveplast stuff. I couldn't figure out a way to post a player for the video of Neveplast. The website is www.neveplast.com . They say that you don't need to wet this stuff for it to ski fast. That's a huge plus, and if you watch some of the vid, it looks like guys were carving pretty well on it. You can lay the stuff over grass or dirt. Anyway, for an inrun, that ought to be pretty good. Once I get open, I want to add a 4 seasons jib park there too. That will be snowflew, most likely.
There are a bunch of guys in the states looking for dry slope material for summer setups. The prob would be getting it over here. Plus, most guys are trying to get it done as low budget as possible. I got quotes on what is would cost to have flex shipped to the states and it was really pricey. Definetely something to think on though.
