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So, all of you kids that were popping wood about Ron Paul durring the election...

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derbski
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Do you realize now that while that whole no federal tax thing sounded nice, it wouldn't have really worked had he been elected? While I don't like our taxes going to a bunch of companies that fucked up, if we would not have helped them out of this, they would have all gone under, bringing our economy with them. Sorry that I kind of sound cocky, but really, how do you think his ideas would have worked at all in our current situation? And that is not a rhetorical question, I want to hear what you people, Paul supporters and loathers alike, think about this.
Apr 29 2009 9:43PM
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derbski
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No, see, Ron Paul was not a realist, he thought that fairy tales could be real. he didn't want to lower taxes, he wanted to get rid of the IRS altogether.
Apr 29 2009 9:49PM
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Beans13
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someday you will learn that fairy tales really are real
Apr 29 2009 9:50PM
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Ben.
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he also thought we shouldnt have fought the civil war.
Apr 29 2009 9:50PM
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J.D.
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You of course realize how mind-bogglingly stupid this idea is when you're trying to get people to spend money to revitalize the economy, right?
Apr 29 2009 9:50PM
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Delphi
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haha wow, what do you think Obama is? he is as naive as they come.
Apr 29 2009 9:53PM
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derbski
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oh yeah, take a gander at this, he was defending the governer of texas who was talking about how if things kept happening like this seccesion may be an option. http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=62

sounds nice when it is put like that, but if a state seceded every time they got pissed off at how the country was working, we wouldn't really be much of a country. The texas governer was throwing a tantrum and everybody knows it, but I think ron paul is defending him just to be different. He reminds me of the goth kids on south park who call everybody else conformists and are different for the sole sake of being different.
Apr 29 2009 9:56PM
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derbski
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I believe that it is way more far fetched than anything obama has come up with to believe that we could survive as a country with a federal government as weak as ron paul would like
Apr 29 2009 9:58PM
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backwardsrider
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ayo I hope you know that spending money wont do shit to get out of a reccession... we need to change our economy to be more balanced to not rely on other countries.

Apr 29 2009 10:03PM
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Ben.
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hahaha yeah i read that and got a good laugh
Apr 29 2009 10:03PM
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backwardsrider
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embed isnt working... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1YhJRXqnXI
Apr 29 2009 10:05PM
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skiminnesota
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can you imagine the black markets that would spring up?
Apr 29 2009 10:13PM
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derbski
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(man wearing a trenchcoat in a back alley) Pssst... Hey man, you need groceries, I got potatoes, bread, eggs, milk, what do you need man?
Apr 29 2009 10:16PM
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skiminnesota
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i was thinking bigger items. but yeah.

shit i payed $30 in sales tax just on the last pair of skis i bought. i also payed over $100 in sales tax for a shit load of car work / parts.
Apr 29 2009 10:19PM
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Rez4frederick
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Rofl, dude, What exactly is your point?
You know that old saying "There is more than one way to skin a cat!"
Well yea, that could be said for the financial mess we are in now....
Apr 29 2009 10:29PM
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Ben.
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pauls method would be equivalent to taking the cat and putting it in a blender. a big fucking mess
Apr 29 2009 10:33PM
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derbski
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yeah and if they raised taxes that much, everybody would buy everything from the natives.
Apr 29 2009 11:31PM
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bermbuster49
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because our national debt right now after the bailouts isnt a mess.....
Apr 29 2009 11:36PM
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Ben.
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it hasnt really been proven yet, its too early to tell. but if you look at history, it could work out. i think its pretty blatantly obvious that what paul had in mind was just idiocy
Apr 29 2009 11:39PM
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skier_07
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Getting rid of the IRS wouldnt be a bad thing. The tax code needs rewritten without a doubt I dont think anyone can argue that.

So depending on how you did it getting rid of the IRS could be an option and a good one if it was written right. Or continue to use them but with a different tax code.

But the the bailout money has put us into a financial mess without a doubt.. if we will be able to get out of it smoothly or not is the question.

To the thread creator; why did we have to bail them out? We could have let them go under and some people suffer. Major car manufacturers go under then new ones will spring up. A couple hard years and then things turn around with a new company. I dont really think we should have done this because goverment intervention got us into this mess and alter the free market so the free market prolly couldnt have got us out of it on its own very efficeintly. But come on did we really need this much bail out... bankruptcy court is there for a reason.
Apr 30 2009 1:00AM
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geteducated
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who the fuck do you think you are.  PETER PAN?
Apr 30 2009 1:04AM
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SirFryanator
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Wow, talk about an extreme version of fiscal policy...
Apr 30 2009 1:09AM
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RudyGarmisch
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HEY GUISE, CAN I USELESSLY SPECULATE TOO?
Apr 30 2009 3:32AM
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The_Tim
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ron paul was a fucking idiot. anyone who actually believed in him is a fucking idiot as well. dont vote ever, please.
Apr 30 2009 3:42AM
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Thenowhereman42
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I liked him because he was pro state's rights and marijuana legalization, but realized he was never really a viable candidate.
Apr 30 2009 4:16AM
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derbski
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Don't give me that Rowen, I was just thinking about ron paul today and I remembered how the ron paul threads got almost as frequent and obnoxious as the 9/11 conspiracy threads. I think I deserve at least 1 thread saying that in the situation we are in, most of his ideas would be entirley impossible. I have yet to have full reason to believe that it could work in any condition that this country would be in, but I find it especially hard to believe that they would work in a time like this.
Apr 30 2009 4:21AM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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What needs to be rewritten in the tax code? What changes?
Apr 30 2009 11:17AM
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