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Lil Wayne cant rap.

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jibbhad
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"i know a bitch, who know's a bitch, fucking right im rich"
yeah he must be a fucking genius
Apr 26 2009 7:25AM
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DJSTEVEINNIAMIXX
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I concur.
Apr 29 2009 10:29PM
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heFF
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what i've been trying to say the hole time but nobody listens...i mean shit the thread creater legit thinks i'm mentally handicapped because i listen to wayne..people are so damn ignorant its silly
Apr 29 2009 10:48PM
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doritos
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I'm not sure if you do, but if you so happen to consider Li'l Wayne to be an intelligent or clever lyricist, you are clearly mentally handicapped.
Apr 29 2009 11:08PM
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Lax_Bro40
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The problem with 99 percent of the kids on this site, is that they honestly just know jack shit about rap. You are all to concerened about just listening to "underground" rap saying its way better and have better lyrics. Honestly i used to be the same way. Ive broadened by horizons and yeah wayne puts out some garbage, but he makes a lot of sick shit too.

The dude that put all those rappers like looptroop, blue scholars ect. is the definition of what im talking about. Yeah they are pretty sick but when it comes down to it i could name prolly ten rappers off the top of my head that are mainstream and would tear them apart in any part of the game. Whether its beats, flow, lyrics, freestyling or whatever.


Basically im trying to say all the kids on here who shun away any mainstream rapper and say that others are way better, your wrong.
Apr 29 2009 11:08PM
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Lax_Bro40
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I agree with you. To me its all rap, it doesnt matter if they have so to say "made it" or working their way to that point. Its music. If your good ill listen to you and if your not i wont.
Apr 29 2009 11:16PM
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casual
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The people who tend to use those words, are the same people who attempt to align themselves with a particular image; that typically being of an "in the know" "real" hip-hop fan.

I can't stand the knee jerk reaction to condemn what's popular. The whole elitist hip-hop subculture is so fucking obnoxiously self-righteous.

It's hip-hop. This notion that it has to be substantive and "meaningful" is ridiculous. Hip-hop didn't begin as either socially-conscious OR "high-art". Since day one, it's been about fun, celebrating materialism and living lavishly, and "I'm better than the next" bravado. I guess you could say that Grand Master Flash took it to that other level, along with other early emcees who recorded "message" songs, but even those were footnotes and asides.

In that respect, Lil' Wayne is more "hip-hop" than a lot of the slam poet/microphone booth activists that you guys are unexplainably spamming this thread with. Just as Lil' Wayne panders to a demographic and exploits them for economic gain, the backpack/underground/otherjerkoff classification movement does the same thing...the difference being that Wayne is candid and transparent about it.

There are a lot of posters in this thread I think highly of, who's opinions I genuinely respect, but I think a lot of you are failing to give Wayne a fair shake. I suspect some of you are projecting your disdain for his fans and the "idea" of Wayne, onto the actual music.

Wayne is astoundingly prolific, and releases such a ridiculous amount of music that there's bound to be a fair share of bullshit. The auto-tune phenomenon is suicide inducing, and the saturation of his music is maxed the fuck out. No question. That being said, there is quality to be found if you're willing to dig. To off-handedly dismiss his entire catalog on the basis of a handful of singles is ridiculous. To deny his feel for cadence, rhythm, melody, and swagger is cuhrazy talk.
Apr 30 2009 2:37PM
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TechnoPotamus
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he makes more money than you ever will, he's considered to be one of the best by his peers, many many people like him. stop fucking talking about this already.
Apr 30 2009 2:52PM
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Lax_Bro40
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Ok heres a list. This is in no order, just 10 that are better than all you posted.


1.Jadakiss-probably one of the best freestyle rappers of all time, lyrically almost nobody can touch him)

2.Styles P- he really isnt mainstream but he still gets by, and is one of the best alive right now)

3. Cassidy- if you dont know why he is good, listen to mixtapes more, which proves another point i made about not knowing rap

4. Jay-Z-this should not need explaining

5. Slim Thug- i used to think he was wack, but this past album and actually listening into his songs that arent meant to make people dance, the ones about his life, he absolutely kills it.

6. DMX- Absolutely killed it in the 90s, and paved way for 3 of the people on this list.

7. Lupe Fiasco- just straight kills it

8. Ace Hood- right now, he isn't on the level of hte rest of the people on this list, but his flow is out of control and he has the potential to be great.

9. Fabulous- One of the best freestylers in the game, flow is rediculous

10. Lil Wayne- Im putting him on here because depending on what kind of mood your in, some of his music is really good. You gatta look past the stupid lyrics and look at the bigger picture. Listen to the song me and my drink, and explain the metaphor to me.

If i knew how to post videos or links id give you a couple freestyles with these guys in them and its rediculous how good they are.







Apr 30 2009 3:11PM
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THUGwife
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his whole new rock thing is so ghey
Apr 30 2009 3:45PM
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Lax_Bro40
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Please explain. They are all better than any video posted in this group. I would love to hear you justify how a group of white swedish rappers is more hip hop and have more talent than those 10.
Apr 30 2009 3:46PM
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Mr.Panda
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i still think Mos Def is better than most of the guys you listed dude.....  seriously.
Apr 30 2009 3:50PM
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Lax_Bro40
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Apr 30 2009 3:53PM
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Lax_Bro40
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^ more to come. All of those SHIT on everything posted previous
Apr 30 2009 3:53PM
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Ben.
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well said
Apr 30 2009 3:53PM
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Mr.Panda
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i sense a shanking coming for this...  but...  Sean Paul, who for some reason everyone either hates or loves has more raw talent than Wayne does in my opinion...  even fucking Lil Jon who only says yeah, what, n****r, or something about weed has more talent that Wayne....
Apr 30 2009 3:59PM
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casual
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Cassidy ghostwritten?! Klazo....nooooo.....
Apr 30 2009 4:03PM
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Lax_Bro40
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. Ghostwritten? listen to the freestyles i just posted. You are the definition of someone who thinks they know what rap is. you say LOX was good, but styles solo career is wack? here are some songs lets see if you can grasp whats going on in them.









Apr 30 2009 4:04PM
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Lax_Bro40
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and dont post until you listen to all three. Explain to me whats going on in the first song.
Apr 30 2009 4:06PM
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Ben.
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FOR FUCKS SAKE PEOPLE ITS FUCKING MUSIC!!! WHO GIVES A FUCK IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, OR SOMEONE ELSE DOESNT LIKE IT. ITS NOT YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM
Apr 30 2009 4:18PM
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Mr.Panda
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like, i like that stuff...  and a lot of other stuff...  and people hate on me all the time for it.




Apr 30 2009 4:21PM
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Mr.Panda
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i guess my point is kinda what ben is trying to say...  music is a subjective thing.

and peole tell me that rammstein has no talent so i shouldnt listen to them.
Apr 30 2009 4:24PM
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doritos
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Uhm... not really.
Apr 30 2009 4:26PM
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Lax_Bro40
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now your just proving yourself ignorant. All you have done is bashed my 10. Lets see yours.
Apr 30 2009 4:28PM
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Ben.
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YOUR OPINION IS WRONG BITCH. SHUT THE FUCK UP
Apr 30 2009 4:31PM
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Mr.Panda
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hahahahaha....  wow..  ben is repping on some bitches.

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like this guy reps on people.
Apr 30 2009 4:35PM
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Ben.
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what part of shut the fuck up, your opinion is wrong did you not understand?
Apr 30 2009 4:46PM
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Ben.
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cool story. i just e-shit my pants.
Apr 30 2009 4:48PM
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casual
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Klaz...homie...I still need you to answer for your claims that Cassidy's bars are ghosted.

He's Philly's most respected punchline lyricist...no question.
Apr 30 2009 5:00PM
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Mavrck
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"We keep hoes crunk like Trigga-man
Who really don't get no bigger man
Don't trip, let's flip, then throw it on the flip
Then blow with the muthafuckin' Jigga-man"

really? i could pull some retarded lines outta any hip hop artists lyrics...
The point is he's probably one of the more creative artists out there in his approach to the music that's inspired a ton of other artists. Him playing around with rock is just another path he's opening for the future of music. Snoop dog doesnt make sense half the time but he's considered one of the best rappers of the west coast? but he's done great things for hip hop in terms of style and flow and thats the same thing wayne has done. I think some of you are so stuck up about "jumping on the weezy wagon" that you refuse to admit he's half way decent and actually go in the opposite direction saying he's terrible so you can sound all intelligent and what not about hip hop and what not. when all you do is listen to hip hop and the actual artists of the hip hop community are saying this guy could be the best/most influential rapper alive, your probably the one thats right, they don't know anything about hip hop.....
Apr 30 2009 5:05PM
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Lax_Bro40
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I still dont understand how you think Styles P is wack. He would kill almost all 20 of the names you listed. DOnt listen to those 3 songs for flow or beats. Listen lyrically.
Apr 30 2009 5:36PM
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casual
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Thanks for the clarification, my good sir.
Apr 30 2009 5:46PM
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casual
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Shouldn't you be on a watch list?...
Apr 30 2009 6:03PM
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sniche
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Ummm actually he can rap.....he does it right here and there are other various songs and videos of him rapping




Apr 30 2009 6:20PM
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Mr.Panda
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someone broke this thread.
Apr 30 2009 6:58PM
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nkinsman10
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thank you brother, everyone is entitled to their choice of music though. the hating should stop either way. weezy's beats are so fucking sick imo.
Apr 30 2009 8:24PM
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Ben.
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is this shit broken for anyone else?
Apr 30 2009 8:29PM
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nkinsman10
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what people dont realize too, is that a lot of his shit is spit straight from the dome.

"fresh on campus its the birdman junior, money to long teachers put away your rulers"

unnnnhhhhh fucking dirty




Apr 30 2009 8:33PM
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Twinjibber77
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I listen to a lot of tha stuff people in here think is "real rap", but i still like the Dedications and The drought is over volumes.
Apr 30 2009 8:38PM
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Lax_Bro40
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whats your definition of "real rap".
Apr 30 2009 8:47PM
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casual
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I'm with you. I don't feel like it's an either/or scenario. I don't like all food for the same reasons, I don't like all movies for the same reasons, etc.

I don't always need to be intellectually challenged, or engaged on an overly cerebral level, to enjoy music.

I really feel like there's some value in Wayne's music (granted some of that value is a product of production/beat selection, something that he's obviously not directly responsible for), and I'm sort of blown away by all of the hate. Obviously, his approach to rhyming and making music is completely incomparable to the vast majority of the artists that his detractors in this thread are citing as "real" hip-hop. They don't really strike me as particularly valid or relevant comparisons.
Apr 30 2009 8:59PM
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Twinjibber77
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I didn't say what real rap was!!!! I think all rap is really rap (excluding soulja boy). Everyone bitching thinks real rap is only Nas, Jay, Biggie, Pac, Aesop, P.O.S., or Gangstarr. Whoever. I like it all for tha most part. I think weezy can rap.
"Bitch swallow my words, taste my thoughts, and if it's to nasty, spit it back at me"- Sounds mad fresh to me.
Apr 30 2009 9:10PM
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Lax_Bro40
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I agree with you.


Here is a better more refined version of claims i had stated earlier.


All of you saying that all of the people who made it, such as Wayne, Jay, Nas, Slim Thug, and people like that, the MTV rap if you will is terrible do not really know what they did when they were at the Blue scholars, looptroop, Hilltop Hoods stage. They may make commercial garbage now, but before all the fame and glamour of being a star, they were hustling out on the block trying to make money. They all had to put in there do's and win a fair share of battles on the block just to get noticed. Following getting signed by a label, a lot of them had to go through a stage of proving themselves with sick songs and freestyles proving their worth. Even though all these guys may not make the best rap anymore, they still have the skill that put them there in the first place. The become mature and realize that they have mouths to feed and people they care about to take care of, and staying true to ''real rap" will not get that done. In the words of Cassidy, one of the greatest in our time...



" Ain't no money in battlin, and i gatta eat."
Apr 30 2009 9:46PM
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heFF
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that fucker cracks me up...its funny and fresh

and i believe it was either casual or alek (the ones who are making valid points in this thread) that said rap doesn't have to be incomprehensibly (sp?) challenging to make it good rap for me....I'm not a fan of weezy's new shit to be honest but if you guys would give him a chance and listen to his hold stuff like lil weezy ana or young money mixtape vol 1. shit back then...i think you would actually like a small portion of his stuff...I'm shocked at the numerous "lil wayne is gay, he sucks" blah blah blah etc...and most of the "underground" stuff posted I listened to, to me, is not fun or appealing to my ears...the lyrics might be "good" or have "meaning" to the them but they bore me....wayne is funny fresh and drops sick lines in his tapes from a few years ago.....

please jump off the hatecycle and give him a listen....damn
Apr 30 2009 10:46PM
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heFF
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carter 2 shit...try and say its not decent




Apr 30 2009 11:09PM
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jibbhad
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hahaha lil wayne is a rockstar now !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKflA2xvGTE
May 8 2009 7:50AM
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Skierguy1234
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money money money get a dollar and a dick, weezy baby that crack, mutha fucka get a fix, got money out the ass, no homo but im rich, bout to get surgery and put some diamonds in my wrists, yes, yep im a mutha fuckin trip, ima trip to japan and buy some brand new shit, nine hundred to a grand get you twenty eight grams, if you talkin bout bricks im the interstate man, and the women say damn, them niggas dont say a damn thing, boy i bet that shotty make you bounce like a bed spring, walkin the thin line, gotta defend my end, with no pin, im sorta like a bomb, boom, young tune yeah thats what my people call me, fifty thousand for the cause tryin to keep the reaper off me, i drink a lot of syrup bitches say im sleep walkin, big money for the girl so im never cheap talkin...

dont tell me he cant rap.

May 8 2009 8:17AM
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