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yoyoho
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Do you think is a good email to send to my local “glenshee” regarding a park getting built or not. I've emailed them loads of times  about it, but they seem to ignore my emails now.

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I’ve emailed before, regarding a park getting built at glenshee.

This is the best time of year to start getting thing organized and try to source steel, getting volunteers organized for helping out and building rails, jibs for winter 09/10.

What really should be done is to start of small, with out any sponsors and eventually build it bigger and better over time and maybe think about getting some sponsors.

I’ve been doing a bit of research on the internet to see how some of the smaller ski area’s around new york rely more on a park. Since the winter can be a bit of a hit or miss on the east coast of america, just like scotland. I know america has a colder dryer climate than scotland dose and most of the smaller ski area’s, especially on the east coast rely more on snowmaking to get things open. So the point i’m getting to is, if they can have a have decent park built with very little snow. I’m sure glenshee could as well. I’m not saying concentrate 100% on a park, but you would benefit more from it when the conditions aren’t  that great.

I could come and personally talk to you at any time in a lot more detail about it.

Thanks



Apr 22 2009 8:46PM
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SkierX
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Please don't email that to them. Spelling errors in a letter to a business causes you to lose ALL credibility.
Apr 22 2009 8:49PM
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Malcolm
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not bad. but if you really want them to take you seriously youll have to fix a couple things. like use more formal wording and i also spotted a couple tiny grammar mistakes
Apr 22 2009 8:50PM
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yoyoho
Posts: 166 - Karma: 38
I done it really quick and just posted it on NS try to get some options. I’m going to read through it again an change  a few things anyway.
Apr 22 2009 9:05PM
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Silence
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After you've finished editing it, post it back up before you send it so we can help you lose the spelling/grammar issues.

It would be good if you can directly tell them what benefits they would get by putting in a park, too.

The last thing ski hills want to do in the current climate (economic), is to spend money - unless it's justified.
Apr 22 2009 9:20PM
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n8myton
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Good idea, but the grammar and spelling is horrible, as others have said.
Good luck with it, fix up some things and I think you have a chance. Maybe throw in some figures about how much it would cost, and how many lift tickets would need to sell to make the money back. (provided the numbers look good)
Apr 22 2009 9:31PM
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yoyoho
Posts: 166 - Karma: 38
i cange some things and added bit's. I'll read through it again and check for any bad grammer and spelling later on.

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I am emailing regarding a park getting built at glenshee for winter 2009/2010.

The summer is best time of year to get things organised and try to get sponsors from local shops. Organising volunteers for maintenance and construction teams and sourcing material for building features.

My plan is, to start off small and have the park staff on a volunteered basis to try and keep the cost down on the construction and maintenance side. I also want to try and come up with a way to raise some money to help bye material for building features, instead of relying on sponsors.

I have been doing a bit of research on the internet to see how some of the smaller ski areas around new york rely more on a park. Since the winter can be a bit of a hit or miss on the east coast of america, just like scotland. I know america has a colder dryer climate than scotland does and most of the smaller ski area’s, especially on the east coast rely more on snowmaking to get things open. The point i’m getting to is. If the ski area’s on the east coast can build decent parks with very little snow, i’m sure glenshee could as well. I’m not saying concentrate 100% on a park. But you would benefit more from it when the conditions aren’t that great.

I think glenshee would benefit more from having a good well maintained park, than not having one at all. Parks bring in a huge amount of people; nearly half of all visitors to parks are under 25 years old. Building a park is a necessary means to bring extra cash into glenshee when the conditions aren’t great and double your numbers of paying customers.
Apr 23 2009 8:25AM
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steezemunkey
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I would totally be up for being in a Glenshee Park Crew this winter. It would epic to finally have an outdoor park in the UK. I know that a lot of the skiing places in the UK have rails and boxes they never use, which i'm sure we could poach, and i dont reckon finding volunteers/ objects would be too much problem.

PM with any details/ developments.
Apr 23 2009 8:28AM
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nickyp
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Me too, anything that can help the UK freestyle scene. As long as there's enough snow, it would be a great idea.
Apr 23 2009 8:30AM
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jweschow
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When you send "would bring in a huge" amount of money, try saying large or significant instead. it sounds way more professional
Apr 23 2009 10:50AM
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yoyoho
Posts: 166 - Karma: 38
I change a few things again and sent the email to glenshee, so hopefully they will get back in contact soon.
Apr 23 2009 11:41AM
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lunchmeat
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I would use the word terrain park, park alone can be confusing for non-savvy old people
Apr 23 2009 12:08PM
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skia4life91
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I think it is worth a shot. The errors aren't that bad you just need to change a few things. I hope it works out for you.
Apr 23 2009 12:28PM
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nickyp
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I think we should just turn up one morning with a van load of rails and picnic tables, bought from B&Q earlier that week, and set them up on the slope somewhere.
Apr 23 2009 1:21PM
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yoyoho
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I got an email back from glenshee saying. “Thank you for your email, i have passed this on to graham mccabe who is in charge of the hill operations who will contact you regarding your proposal”.

Now i will have to wait and see, if mccade gets back in contact with me. But i do have a felling he won’t. Just like every other email i have sent, he never gets back in contact.

Apr 24 2009 6:50AM
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pierson
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Call the mountain and get the guy on the phone in a week and say you're following up with you proposal. Assuming he doesn't email you back before then...
Apr 24 2009 4:15PM
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farmskier
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Wow.  You really sent that?  I wouldn't respond to that if it crossed my desk.  I also wouldn't want the 10 year old that wrote it anywhere near my park.
Apr 24 2009 5:44PM
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miketheskier88
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Hasn't the glenshee resort been in serious debt issues past years and declared bankruptcy? I mean.. good on you for trying.. but I wouldn't put a lot of hope into it.

I think that even if they wanted to, they wouldn't because of:

a) financial concerns
b) longevity of a park.

The seasons seem to be quite hit and miss.. and with all the major studies saying scottish skiing will be gone within the coming decades... *shrugs*
Apr 24 2009 7:18PM
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buckers
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Does Glenshee have any Snow Cats?

I would love to see this, but in all honesty I don't think it would financially sensible. To put the time, which invariably means money into doing this, would, I believe, surpass Glenshee's financial capabilities.

I also don't think that it would see much use. Yes it would be great, but how many people would or could actually get up to Glenshee to use it. I think it would be great to start with, but then due to lack of snow and far to variable conditions it would become unusable.

I think more places like Sheffield Ski Village need to be created. Places than do not require rediculous amount of power to create shit fake artificial snow, but rely on environmentally sound ways to recreate the skiing experience.
Apr 24 2009 7:56PM
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farmskier
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Ok dude.  I'll let the insanely poor grammar, spelling, and punctuation slide for now.  But you should really work on that. 

For some reason I checked out the blog in your signature....    And I'm still appalled that you think they'll take you seriously. 

"I really need to build a legit summer set-up with astro turf and a burly as fuck drop-in. But i'm not the type of person who go’s out and buy's wood and shit. When, i would rather steal wood and piping from construction sites. Instead of wasting my money buying it from hard-wear stores."

You had that quote, directly under your post about asking Glenshee about getting a park and getting no response from them.  No wonder they don't ever get back to you.

You want them to let you setup a park from materials you're just going to steal?  Maybe that's not your intention for their park, but you might want to take that off the site if you want them to even consider what you're proposing.  Or just hope they don't ever look at your site.



Apr 24 2009 8:02PM
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skijunkiedtm
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hmm i am unsure if i should shair my letter to my hill. it also is a small NY hill with not much else to offer. its a little longer.


Hi. I am writing to you as a 6 year pass holder. For years I have been satisfied but in the past few years I have gravitated towards the deteriorating terrain park. I remember the years when Cameron McCutcheon and Owen were on park crew. I remember when there were always new, creative, safe, and up to date features. I feel this time was when the park was in its prime, the park crew was very visible, and proactive. But over the years these features have aged with time and being left out year round. And as they became unusable you have done a good job retiring them. But not replacing them. I feel the current boxes and rails are “ghetto” for a lack of a better word. Just today I caught my edge in the lower Pollux on a large nail protruding a few inches from the top surface, this is just not safe.

Today the box in upper Pollux with the ledges on the sides when trying to a surface “switch up” (when you go on rail turn 90 degrees and land perpendicular with box then spin a 180 and face the other way) when I was 90 degrees into my 180 turn the lexan top sheet sunk in and when I tried to turn the last 90 degrees my edges where caught on the composite decking material that is the coping. This material grabs your edges worse then PVC causing you to fly forward into a good shoulder/elbow/wrist injury. This is just not safe and I feel it needs to be replaced, not just removed like you have done with many past features. I feel it would be in Greek peaks best interest to construct some new features such as rails and boxes and to use metal and lexan because even though they are more expensive they last longer and are safer. I am talking about features with similar construction as the dog house box and large rainbow box. I don't see this as too big of a problem because many small resorts such as Toggenburg use boxes and rails that are similar.

Now I would like to discuss jumps. I feel you have always had good quality jumps so kudos to your groomers and park crew. But this recent trend that started last year of making many pointlessly small jumps instead of maintaining a few large jumps is just silly. These end up being no more then rollers and wedge design with no lip have no real possibilities for progression. I feel Greek should focus on maintaining at least 3 good jumps ranging in size like you have in past years and use the little snow piles that where those small jumps for jumps onto new features and to build up the other jumps.

Now this year already shows to be better then years past. The head of the park crew, while I do not know his name is very visible and always working and seems to have a strong desire to have a successful park.

So it seems my main point is that I feel you should update your park with new features because although they may be expensive they would be much safer and last much longer. I am concerned because I have many friends who have decided to stop holding passes at Greek for other hills such as Toggenburg. While it is a further drive, their park is excellent and thats what we are attracted to and its seem the size of our demographic is being underestimated.

Thank-you for taking the time to read this, I have other ideas that I feel could help the terrain park for little to no cost and could even generate some revenue to reinvest in the development in the park. I hope to be able to share them with you. Im also sure my friends do too.

Douglas Moore.
Apr 24 2009 8:20PM
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n8myton
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@ skijunkiedtm

very nice, well written, professional letter
send it out, I think you have a pretty good chance of getting something done


Apr 27 2009 8:34PM
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garettnorthey
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If you say you are going to use an informal word please don't say ghetto as it is a very slang word. Say something such as "Sketchy" or "Beat up".
Apr 27 2009 8:50PM
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n8myton
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Haha, "sketchy" is pretty slang too. As in, I don't think my parents would know what it meant. Maybe "rundown"
Apr 27 2009 9:52PM
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Aaaron.
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I am sending this message in hope that you would consider a Terrain Park on your list of mountain improvements at Glenshee Mountain

The summer is best time of year to get things organized.  Many local shops may be interested in sponsoring the construction and maintenance of the park, and volunteers can be organized to help with the building of the features, and up-keep that a terrain park needs.

My plan is to start off small and have the park staff on a volunteer basis, to try to keep the cost down on  construction and maintenance. I would also like to raise some funds to help with the costs of building features, instead of solely relying on sponsors.

I have been doing a bit of research to see how some of the smaller ski areas around New York have benefited from a terrain park. Since the winter can be a bit of a hit or miss on the East Coast of America, most smaller resorts rely on snow-making to keep their trails manageable.  A respectable terrain park can be built and maintained using a minimal amount of man-made snow.  The ridability of a terrain park relies less on snow condition than traditional recreational skiing or boarding; an icy or slushy park can still  beenjoyable to most.  I understand if this cannot be a top priority project for the upcoming season, but a terrain park is still attractive, even when conditions are less than desirable.

I believe that Glenshee would benefit from have a well maintained park.  Terrain parks bring in a large amount of people and nearly half of park skiers and riders are under twenty five years old.  Building a park is a good option to bring more costumers, even when conditions aren't that great.
 
Apr 27 2009 10:15PM
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JEWbacca
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Thats pretty fuckin good if u ask me. but if they dont contact u back just pick up the phone and call.
Apr 27 2009 10:37PM
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