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ok, skied like 8 times, broke old bindings (tyrolias) now on second mount with BRAND NEW PX15s that i got for $240 alone. They are 185s. these are great skis, i gambled and tried them and loved them. medium stiffness i would say. mounted center. the first day with new bindings i blew my knee. so pretty much here you have a ski with 8 days on them and brand new bindings for $325 plus shipping. im losing money here so buy up! oh yeah, one topsheet chip, but otherwise almost perfect. a tune and its a brand new ski.