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What fat skis should I get

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lukasdudd
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I am not sure what fat skis I should get, I would primarly be using them above the tree line in Europe.  So pretty much I would use them for skiing big wide open mountains and only sometimes use them in the trees, here are my options:
Hellbent, Obsethed, Line Motherships

Thanks in advance
Apr 12 2009 2:45PM
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AALT
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hellbent
Apr 12 2009 3:10PM
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fLyInG-liNeS
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mo ship sounds perfect

Apr 12 2009 3:11PM
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Style+eeze
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definitely the hellbent. they're sick
Apr 12 2009 3:24PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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If you're getting a 100% pow ski you should check out the ARG or Donner Party as well.
Apr 12 2009 3:50PM
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lukasdudd
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have you ever ridden the hellbents
Apr 12 2009 3:51PM
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Twig
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Well it sounds like you basically want a charging ski, with a little versatility.. I would rule out hellbents, too soft and better suited to trees/ bc jibbing (not that they can't charge but there are much better skis for that). Obsethed seem to be a better choice if you mount them back, but i haven't skied them. Motherships are beastly and were too much ski for me when i demoed them, but I am a small guy. They are pretty damn heavy and really stiff, but if you want to kill huge lines then they might be good. Personally i would take a look at the 4frnt EHP, Salomon Czar (not a Solly fan but the czar is sick).. There are other great options too, but those two spring to mind..
Apr 12 2009 4:05PM
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ReetsAdeets
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Get Hellbents. They rock
Apr 12 2009 4:07PM
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Gomer_GSX
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Obsethed isn't fat enough. Hell Bents and Motherships are drastically different, with the Motherships being a lot stiffer, much more of a charging ski, which I prefer the Bacons over those, but wouldn't consider either REALLY fat.  Hell Bents are great for lots of powder, which if you fit the right weight you should look at the EP Pro too. In my personal opinion though, Pontoons are more fitting for the conditions you describe.
Apr 12 2009 4:08PM
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lukasdudd
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Thanks man ++++Karma
I don't really like stiff skis so i prolly will pass on the Moships. The only reason I have those 3 is cause i found them for about 300 that and that is my budget for skis right now.
Apr 12 2009 4:13PM
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Hooper
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rossi s7 cab... awesome ski for that stuff
Apr 12 2009 4:25PM
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amo
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You may want to wait until you've got more money, because buying a pow specific ski with a budget that small is very restricting. Since it sounds like you will skiing wide open pow fields, something like the K2 Pontoon, Armada ARG, Moment Donnor Party, Moment Comi, Moment Comi-Kazi, 4FRNT EHP, Salomon Czar, or Volkl Kuro would probably fit you well. I don't have any experience with these skis, but they are all fat pow skis, made for ripping hard. Check some of them out, one may be what you're looking for.
Apr 12 2009 4:52PM
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Style+eeze
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yeah...
Apr 12 2009 4:52PM
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no_steeze
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yeah if you were gonna be skiing a lot of trees then i would recommend hellbents but they're way too soft for charging big open faces. you should look into rossi s7's, possibly jj's, moment night train or bibby, or maybe something like a donner party or ARG. out of the list you selected i would pick mo'ships but if you don't love stiff skis then theyr'e not the ones for you, but obsethed's aren't fat enough, bents are too soft, and mo'ships are too stiff
Apr 12 2009 5:26PM
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lukasdudd
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Thanks everybody
Apr 12 2009 5:32PM
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Z06
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To all the people suggesting hellbents:

Get off the band wagon, they are not a good open bowl ski. I ski them and they are great for trees, bc jibs/booters, but not charging. Yes it's doable, but there are many better options.

Here are some skis that i would look into(waist width in brackets):

Rossy S7 (115)
K2 Pontoon (130)
Black Diamond Megawatt (125)
Moment Comi/Kazi (136)
4rnt EHP (116)
Salomon Czar (111)
Volkl Katana (111)
Liberty Double Helix (121)
Salomon Rocker (127)
Line Motherships (111)
Volkl Kuro (132)
Moment Bibby (115)
Line Prophet 130 (130)
Fat-ypus A-Lotta (140)
Apr 12 2009 5:50PM
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lukasdudd
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I did so more shopping around and found some volkl kuros that almost meet my budget of 300. Would those be a good option or should i go with the motherships, cause it seems that i should not go with the hellbents from what people are saying
Apr 12 2009 6:17PM
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Twig
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Volkl Kuros are a huge ski and might be too big for average european conditions. i don't know where you ski (i ski in switzerland) but I would look for something a bit more versatile in europe. Just to be upfront, I never skied the Kuro but just from the dimensions/shape it doesn't seem like a very versatile ski.. If you really want to ski only powder with this ski then go for something really huge, but if you want a bit of versatility, then go for something with approx 110-120mm waist. I actually prefer a slightly narrower ski for charging (which I don't do much of).
Knowing your height and weight would help us help you too..
Apr 12 2009 6:32PM
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Silence
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I'd go Katanas or Motherships
Apr 12 2009 6:33PM
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lukasdudd
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 I mentioned it earlier, but no worries. I am about 6'1 and 175-180lbs. I don't know if you have ever skied in the titlis and melchsee-frutt area but that is usually where i go cause when ever i am in switzerland i stay with a friend in luzern.
Apr 12 2009 6:38PM
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Twig
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well you're big enough to ski anything, but i would stick to a more versatile ski for skiing in switzerland. While we get loads of snow, it can get really windblown and tracked out. If you can find them, I would look for the Czar/EHP/Bibby. I really liked the Czars i demoed, sick in powder but still versatile for windblown shitty snow, and the unavoidable tracked or bumpy groomers that are unvoidable in swiss resorts (in my experience). I haven't skied the other two, but have heard good things. I would love a pair of EHPs myself..

(I ski Saas Fee, Zermatt, Andermatt and Zinal)
Apr 12 2009 6:49PM
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no_steeze
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for switzerland get jj's or bibby's, i ski there a lot and you don't want a bottomless pow ski unless you have touring bindings on it
go with something more versatile and around 115 underfoot
you should get 190 bibby's, that's the money ski for you
Apr 12 2009 7:06PM
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lukasdudd
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I'm prolly gonna have touring binding on them cause my friends parents always go tour through the alps during vacation. But i could never go cause I used to snowboard.
Apr 12 2009 7:08PM
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Gomer_GSX
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When I rode the EHPs I found them surprisingly versatile but that they didn't seem to have the highest build quality on earth. For the sizing I'd much rather stick with my Sir Francis Bacons, due to even further versatility and great for an A/T setup.
Apr 12 2009 7:23PM
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freeballer
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It sounds like the Double Helix would be a good choice for what you are describing.  i have a pair and you can charge on groomers and crud, but they are 121 underfoot so they will provide all the float you would ever need without sacrificing hard snow performance.  The rocker phase is such a fad and those skis suck for steeper pitches in harder snow.  The gotama might be another choice if you want something a bit less wide.
Apr 13 2009 1:19PM
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Binbag
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i ski in tignes, which is full of steep powder fields and lots of couloirs, i ski 4frnt ehps, which i love. mine are 190 which is pretty long but im tall...maybe something like 185 would be better, just for narrow couloir entrances or whatever. the ehps are great though, theyr stiff for big charging lines but the first foot tapers out giving them a bit more flex in the tip...perfect for when its a bit shitty.

also, check out the black crows navis, sick skis a good width and flex for most typical euro conditions

http://www.blackcrows-skis.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12&Itemid=12&lang=en

Apr 13 2009 5:14PM
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Mr.Silva
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Dude i live in Zug titlis is sick!
Apr 13 2009 5:22PM
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sick-as-aids
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aight ima through this one out there..
Head Jimmi 09/10 model.... has a tip rocker, 110 under foot, but the difference is, it stil has shape underfoot.. head designed this so you could get from the powder back to caf without struggling like crazy to ski on the piste... i think this was a good move, a ski that will perform like crazy in pow, but still be skiable on hardpack and groomers :)
Apr 13 2009 5:47PM
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swanton
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SURFACE LIVE LIFES
Apr 13 2009 7:20PM
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