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Abortion...

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RideBLUNT
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So i'm doin this project/debate in Spanish class about abortion and it got me curious, what are everyone's views on it?


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Jan 24 2004 10:06AM
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.scott.
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To the guy who quoted Michael Moore. How about this for logic. If you have to kill (abort) the embryo, zygote, fetus, baby, it doesn't matter what you call it, it was alive. If you had to kill it, than it was alive. And the fact of the matter is, it was a human being, and you killed it. If you are going to try to say that just because it has a different name based on its age that you are permitted to kill him/her than your arguent is invalid. The relationship between the terms fetus and baby are no different than child and teenager. It is a fact that as soon as the zygote attaches to the uterine wall and the cells multiply that it is a living human organism. To kill a live human organism, is not right.
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Jan 26 2004 12:44AM
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J.D.
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ok i said i was done so i'm not going to argue about the topic anymore, but as a side note, apparently people don't understand the basic principles of argument. The guy above me says 'It is a living organism, and killing a living organism is wrong.'
Well, that's an ineffective argument, because your premises are not undisputed; in this case, not everyone agrees that what you've put forth is the correct definition of life. You must first show (give other premises supporting) your claim that it is a living organism. Then your argument will not be so weak.
Jan 26 2004 12:58AM
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666
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I dont think peoples opinions should always be mirrord in goverment policy. I think the goverment should stay outof it, except maybe in 'late term' abortion. And none of this hipocricy on 2 count murder either, if its not a womans right to murder, then killing a pregnat woman should be 1 count.
Jan 26 2004 5:30AM
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.scott.
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yo JD, read the post. I wrote exactly what you say I need to make a valid argument. Let me repeat. Something must be alive to be killed/aborted. If you abort a fetus, it was a alive -- plain and simple fact.
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Jan 27 2004 2:54AM
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.scott.
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hey i just read what i wrote ^ and realized it kinda sounds as if i'm tryin to belittle you or mock you in some way. i just wanted to say that i didn't mean to come off like a smart ass. sorry 'bout that.
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Jan 27 2004 2:56AM
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J.D.
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But it isn't fact... the definition of 'alive' is in question. Whatever, this thread is pretty much done.
Jan 29 2004 2:09PM
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weazelzb
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i had a cousin, who got pregenant. The doctors told her the baby would be born without a brain ahd she and her husband made the decision to have an abortion. Now, which is worse, killing a baby who is not even alive, or giving birth to a baby who would live for 2 hours at the most and then die? im pro choice... its a womans decision


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Jan 29 2004 3:32PM
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jarossamdb7
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If a 13 yearold get's pregnant then an abortion could save her life. Not that she would die but she is most likly gonna live a life in poverty or semi poverty if she has a kid to take care of at that age, as opposed to having more time for an education. The world is overpopulated anyway. People who say that abortion is merder are the same people that enjoy hunting and going to war so that is bullshit. It is because of religion and if not then they are even more of a fuckin moron


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Jan 29 2004 8:43PM
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MistaSkier
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^ That's not necessarily true. Just because conservatives are pro-life, not all people who are pro-life are conservatives. Some people decide to base their opinions on the issues themselves rather than what they 'should' believe based on their political orientation. I'm not sure what I am because it's such a complicated issue, but please do not ever quote Michael Moore when trying to make a point. If it was decided that fucking bears was a left-wing thing to do, he would defend the point that we should fuck bears to the death.


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Jan 29 2004 9:14PM
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GeneralButtNaked
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in the 8th grade one of my best friends got pregnant and it did save her life, she would have had to live in a foster house with a baby
Jan 29 2004 9:27PM
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MistaSkier
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^ But wasn't it her fault that she got pregnant?


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Jan 29 2004 10:32PM
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jarossamdb7
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that is just my observeration. nothing or 100% true all the time


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Jan 29 2004 10:40PM
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Nickskier
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belive it or not, its not always the girl's fault.
Jan 29 2004 10:41PM
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Lord_Piot
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heh how can you argue with choice...



OH THERE GOES EVERY SINGLE PRO_LIFERS ARGUMENT!
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