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Lifter or no lifter...

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aoe
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Ok I'm waiting for p14's with a lifter but i have p12jibs that I could mount right now. Would it be better to use either of the bindings without a lifter (on tm's) for freeriding, or does the lifeter make any difference. I see pros like the phils with p14's but im not sure if they run it with the lifter on not?




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Jan 23 2004 11:36AM
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J.D.
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If it's mostly all mountain and carving, yes lifter. Mostly park, no lifter.
Jan 23 2004 11:38AM
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aoe
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its about 50%park and pipe and rails and 50% groomers, pow, moguls, whatever. so yeah im not sure. and is it worth waiting for the p14, is the lifter and color the only difference besides din? im gonna be running the din on 9 so i wanna keep it in the middle




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Jan 23 2004 11:40AM
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J.D.
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No, the shock absorbption is different, jibs have thicker pads... and the release points are different, P14s are made for all mountain so their release points reflect that. Why do you have 2 sets of bindings if you don't have 2 sets of skis? You should get another pair and have one setup for the mountain and one for the park.
Jan 23 2004 11:45AM
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wrenegade
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i opted not to get lifters on my pistols to save weight, and I actually prefer how they ski compared with my 1080s which have the standard salomon lifters underneath the 810s. I guess if you're doing a lot of groomers and carving maybe you'd want them, but im perfectly happy without them.






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Jan 23 2004 11:54AM
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aoe
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I have 2 sets of skis. tm's for me and my dad. Apparently by reading other threads though the only difference between the p10,12,12jib,and14 is the riser. the jib may have a riser with better 'shock absorbtion' but i could take that smaller lifter and put it on the p12 i guess. as for release points, i think that pretty much bs.




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Jan 23 2004 11:59AM
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OReJow
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the 'shock absorber' on the p12 jibs is nothing but a tiny piece of orange plastic that goes under the heelpiece, its only about 1mm thick, and i highly doubt that it does anything. all of the look/rossi bindings are the same, except for din and color scheme. you could mount your p14 without the lifter if you want, as long as your shop has shorter screws. then it would be pretty much exactly like the jibs, except a higher din.

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Jan 23 2004 12:06PM
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aoe
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^ thank you. thats the plan. and yes i doubt the orange plastic does much but i will mount it anyway




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Jan 23 2004 12:13PM
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offtrail
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the jib version of the binder however is lighter than their normal line. it is made with titanium.
check it.
www.offtrailproductions.com
www.ninthward.com

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Jan 23 2004 12:16PM
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Rick_Husted
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whats the difference between the look p12 and the look p12 jib? I ski 70% all mountain and 30% park, im gonna get some 180 4frnts and mount the bindings in the middle, i cant get enough of riding switch.
Jan 23 2004 12:57PM
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J.D.
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I'm telling you people, the release points are different on the pivot race bindings and the jibs. If Look weren't so good at not prereleasing, it would actually matter! Anyways I guess the lifter only matter to some people... but I noti e the difference outside the park.
Jan 23 2004 1:05PM
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Typical
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really?? titanium?? the whole binding is made out of titanium. so whats the price range for these things??? 10,000-20,000


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Jan 23 2004 3:13PM
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aoe
Posts: 2947 - Karma: 51
there are 2 p14's the p14 lifter and the p14 race. i can see the race possible having different release points. and are the p12 jibs actually ti? thertes the p12 the p12 and trhe p12jib so i dont know if the jib is ti too




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Jan 23 2004 3:46PM
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GeneralButtNaked
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titanium breaks in teh cold
Jan 23 2004 6:20PM
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aoe
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oh and barnyski03, even if the entire binding was solid TI, it still isnt worth NEAR that much. TI isn't anywhere near that expensive




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Jan 23 2004 8:43PM
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