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Sneaking onto Mammoth

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BIGairVZ
Posts: 525 - Karma: 32

-Never been there.

-Wanna go as cheap as possible.

-Looking to sleep in the car and bum rush lift.

--How easy is it????

Mar 25 2009 3:59PM
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dozerr
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pm creighton, he got citizens arrested at mammoth trying to get onto the lift without a pass
Mar 25 2009 4:32PM
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CasKatieA
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I feel your pain in regards to steep lift ticket prices but the thing is, is that right now resorts and ski areas really need our support. With a tough economic situation going on most places have seen a drastic reduction in the number of day users which is where the majority of revenue is generated to operate. Ripping off the resorts could come around to bite us in the ass and think of how much it sucks for places to close down. Get a half day ticket or buy one off of someone heading home early.
Mar 25 2009 5:54PM
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OGHolliday
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Buying one of someone who is heading home early hurts the mountain just as much. 2 people skiing for the price of one.
Mar 25 2009 5:58PM
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freezed
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hahah really? i want to hear that story
Mar 25 2009 6:14PM
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mwg216
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resorts like mammoth can still run if a some ppl don't pay for a lift ticket, some of us don't really have the money to pay for lift tickets that are that expensive but we still wanna ski as much as possible so I say do what you gotta do even if it involves sneakying onto the lift..

Mar 25 2009 7:17PM
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OhMyBosh
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hike
Mar 25 2009 7:20PM
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Fish_Sandwich.
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While your at it those new Audi's look nice.  I've always wanted one, but I just don't have enough money, and I really think I deserve one, and Audi won't miss only ONE car, they are a huge company.
Mar 25 2009 7:21PM
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CasKatieA
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It's better than nothing man.
Mar 25 2009 7:25PM
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Caveman.
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Me to, he should post it in here.
Mar 25 2009 7:26PM
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summersover
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haha exactly
maybe someone thinks you wont mind when he takes $50 off you
i mean you make $15,000 a year you won't notice...
Mar 25 2009 7:28PM
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CasKatieA
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I'm just saying man...support the places you shred at...one can't exist without the other.
Mar 25 2009 7:30PM
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mwg216
Posts: 158 - Karma: 11
a lift ticket and a car is not a very good comparison, and I understand about supporting your mountain and If i have the money then I'll usually buy a ticket but if not I'm not gonna let it stop me from skiing there still.
Mar 25 2009 7:37PM
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ilikeplants
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Usually the lifts up towards the top/middle of the mountain don't scan tickets because if you're up to that point then you obviously have a ticket. Wake up early and hike through the trees to one of the lifts that doesn't scan and keep lapping those lifts.
Mar 25 2009 7:38PM
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dan4060
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This is usually the case.  I ski Mammoth every weekend, and they usually don't check up on the mountain.  I have occasionally seen them scan people at chair 23, but not too often.
Mar 26 2009 1:02PM
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strongmark
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'mark i need to talk to your dad'
'why?'
'an old guy arrested me at mammoth, what do i do?'
'...what?'
Mar 26 2009 1:34PM
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skodeo7
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Very very bad idea. They are strict about checking tickets and they will fuck you if they catch you.
Mar 26 2009 1:46PM
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Hannah.
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yeah you will get caught
Mar 26 2009 1:52PM
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Ben.
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EXACTLY
Mar 26 2009 1:58PM
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liftedresearcher
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walk around a busy lift line, look for a day pass on some guys pants or jacket and clip it off.

worst that happens to the guy you took the pass from has to go use his stub for a new one, and you get up the lift for free. just dont come back down because your pass is invalid when he gets a new one.


Mar 26 2009 2:00PM
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Ben.
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thats a douche ass move
Mar 26 2009 2:10PM
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skodeo7
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Sometimes the lifties wait til your getting onto the lift, stop or slow down the lift and check everyone's tickets/passes.
Mar 26 2009 2:34PM
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BIGairVZ
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I wasn't looking to get into any ethical issues here. I just want to know some of the tricks of the trade. Mammoth will continue to thrive even if my g/f and I decide to sneak on the lift. I was looking to find some sort of lift that is more laxed than others or has more lines leading into it which would make it easier to sneak on. Come on guys... help a broke ass college student out
Mar 26 2009 3:18PM
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Ben.
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and BMW will continue to thrive if i jack a car....
Mar 26 2009 4:14PM
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sick-as-aids
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i generally just think its a bad idea... firstly, supporting the ski industry is pretty key, you say that one person doesnt matter, but thats still 50 buks down the drain for them, (or however much it costs), it doesnt work like that. support the industry, it needs us.
secondly, you get caught without a pass trying to ski for free would get you in the shitter, and its just immoral
Mar 26 2009 4:39PM
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Tex.
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Green Pass, nuff said.

Mar 26 2009 4:57PM
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eastAR5
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poaching really isnt that hard if you are smart about it and properly survey the situation. I got past the nazi cowboy hat dude at Timberline a lot, that was tough

the only time i almost got in trouble was at stowe last year, i peaced to the woods, back to my car and swapped clothes the second I saw the lifty pick up the phone
Mar 26 2009 6:53PM
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liftedresearcher
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its different than taking a car or what ever. it costs money for them to build that car. what difference is it going to make if that one person is going to be there or not. its not like it costs extra money to the hill if one or two people sneak onto the lifts. chair lifts cost the same to run if the lift is full or if its empty.

lets face it, paying 90 bucks for a day of skiing fucking sucks. i dont see why some people make such a big deal about sneaking on to the hill. im not saying that i would do it, but if i see someone sneak on, im not going to call them out.
Mar 26 2009 6:54PM
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TWoods
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Good luck. There's no way you can ski without a pass, but sleeping in your car somewhere around town shouldn't be too hard.
Mar 26 2009 6:56PM
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abek
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i would be so scared to get caught by the lift nazi! he comes out on busy days to chair 6 to murder stealers.  you can probably get by sometimes if you're smart but they will periodically check everyone - just the other day while he was watching they checked everyone, looked at your face, then asked your birthday.
Mar 26 2009 7:20PM
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tandan83
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Here's what you need to know about poaching at Mammoth: Don't do it. 

Reason 1 - It is federal land.  If you get caught poaching and the person who catches you says you are being a dick, you will most likely get arrested and face federal charges.

Reason 2 - If you buy a ticket off someone in the parking lot, it is the same as sneaking onto the lifts without a ticket in the eyes of the law.  You will get charged with fraud (federal offense).

Reason 3 - The lifties get $ for catching people who poach, so you will get caught.  The bigger the ticket bust, the more $ they get.  Considering they don't make shit to start with, this is a big incentive for them. 

Reason 4 - The two lifts that access the best parks (Chair 6 - Forest Trail and Main along with 2 pipes; Chair 4 - South Park and Jibs Galore) are the lifts that they probably scan the most at.

For the person who said they can't afford to pay the lift prices at Mammoth but want to ski as much as possible, you sound ridiculous.  If you want to ski a lot on a limited budget, try someplace more inexpensive like Mt. High or Bear or anywhere.  Mammoth had to lay off 101 employees earlier this year due to a lack of revenue.  People scamming ticket one way or another equals a huge loss throughout the season.  Do you want to be part of the reason someone has lost their job?

Mar 26 2009 7:34PM
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tandan83
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^and I think most of that stuff applies to almost all major ski areas.
Mar 26 2009 7:35PM
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[Toby]
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Ns is a bunch of vaginas
Mar 26 2009 7:39PM
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TWoods
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you just don't know enough about mammoth
Mar 26 2009 7:47PM
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The_Oakley_Kid
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look dude who wants to poach, just dont. I'll admit ive done it there and its pretty fucking easy if you are smart, but getting caught is in no way worth scoring a free ticket. support one of the best mountains and parks in the U.S. even if it is expensive, its worth keeping it around.

i mean seriously we are all poor, but we choose to do one of the most expensive sports there is... if you can't afford it, then dont do it. plain and simple economics.
Mar 26 2009 8:05PM
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s.bishop
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ok moron, it takes money to run a mtn, and they sell lift tickets to....
....OH YEAH, PAY TO RUN THE MTN,

and its exactly the same as a car cause stealing is stealing, no matter what its wrong.




Mar 26 2009 8:11PM
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Ben.
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it costs money to run a mountain. what difference is it going to make if i steal JUST ONE car?
Mar 26 2009 8:18PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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BINGO!
Mar 26 2009 8:32PM
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Z_rob
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coming from a convicted shoplifter himself. dont do it. think to yourself "is a day pass at mammoth really worth potentially $200-1000?"
Mar 26 2009 11:17PM
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alaskakid
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honestly, how the hell could you ever get caught with that?
Mar 26 2009 11:35PM
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tedmgee
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yea buy a ticket form someone

or get lucky and get on the lift without a scan and hike the park

Mar 26 2009 11:49PM
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XtRemE11
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audi wouldnt miss only one car, they have a huge shit ton of money, they could just give away like 2000 cars and hardly see much effect, thats like saying your hurting wal mart or mcdonalds by stealing from them. resorts like mammoth also have a ton of money, and the thing is, your not taking anything away from them, riding up the chair a couple times doesnt cost them anything. if you cant afford it and dont ski there, or if you find a way to sneak on the lifts so you dont have to pay, doesnt do shit, it doesnt hurt mammoth at all.

that being said, if you can afford it, just pay, its the nice thing to do, especially mammoth cause they dont seem like huge dicks like vail resorts. but if you really honeslty cannot afford it and cannot ski unless you sneak on, then i think its fine. really if i owned a big ski resort, and i knew a couple people a day were sneaking on i wouldnt care one bit.

Mar 27 2009 12:05AM
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freezed
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mammoth does not have a lot of money. ski resorts run on narrow profit margins...mammoth had to fire a bunch of employees earlier this season.
Mar 27 2009 12:07AM
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XtRemE11
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i thought they were like a vail resorts type deal, where they are part of like 5 other resorts?
Mar 27 2009 12:09AM
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freezed
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I think they are owned by Intrawest (same corp that owns Whistler), but they operate on their own.
Mar 27 2009 12:19AM
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ho_chi_minh
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You guys need to chill out. I bet none of you have ever downloaded music before...
Mar 27 2009 12:34AM
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Elijah.
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Joining the thread for the wrong reasons, but this was just too dumb of a post.
10 g's for a new car is not the same as 50 bucks for a lift ticket.
Stealing is wrong, but the severity of the stealing is always pertinent in any situation.
Mar 27 2009 12:42AM
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bernierosow
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Mammoth layed off a bunch of people to keep their profit margins high. Mammoth is the only hill that always makes money. that said, they will fuck you if they catch you poaching. there is a spring pass for sale right now for a few hundred. If you buy 3 days riding it's only $53 a day. or go to June. tix are only 40 or 50 there. If you dont care about hitting the 100 foot jumps in main park, you might as well go to june anyways. good luck
Mar 27 2009 3:03AM
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Ski_Punx
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It's possible!!

But if they catch you they're all fucked about it, and will bring the sheriff in on it, you gotta go to court and all kinds of bullshit.. 

Mar 27 2009 3:17AM
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Abc567def
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One of the most morally correct ways to do it is to talk to one of the employees and see if you can buy a comp pass that they generally get for free off of them for a discounted price. The mountain normally doesn't get money from these pre-assigned comp passes anyway and at the same time you are putting money directly into the employees pocket.
Mar 27 2009 3:23AM
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s.bishop
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only itunes,
100% legal and you feel good knowing you didnt screw people over.

Mar 27 2009 6:37AM
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