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Adrienne.
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a plane crashed in Butte Montana today it was 17 kids going on a ski trip to big sky from california and they all died. so sad

anyone hear anything else about it?
Mar 22 2009 9:02PM
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Benedetto.
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thats horrible
Mar 22 2009 9:04PM
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Dhane
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this thread makes my heart hurt.
Mar 22 2009 9:04PM
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a_pla5tic_bag
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Wow, that's such a blunt way to put, i sort of laughed at the bluntness. But that's terrible, they want to go skiing and they die.

Whats with all the plane crashes recently?
Mar 22 2009 9:07PM
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no_steeze
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so terrible, +++vibes to all the families
Mar 22 2009 9:09PM
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PagesHouse
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I'd like to avoid planes at all costs these days... especially the commuter planes.

Some guy who remained anonymous, but worked for a airline said that they didn't have the money to repair problems and retire planes as often as they should and for that reason he won't fly on his own airline.

Scarrryyyyy.
Mar 22 2009 9:09PM
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Beans13
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I know right.

Its getting crazy

Mar 22 2009 9:09PM
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snwbrdmilf
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It doesn't say 17 kids died, it says several children were involved.

Still really sad, crashed in a cemetery too. Kinda creepy. =(
Mar 22 2009 9:10PM
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Adrienne.
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the one i saw said 17 kids. it was like a private plane.
Mar 22 2009 9:11PM
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snwbrdmilf
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No worries, news reports change as they get more information.

And I was wrong, it was outside the cemetery. Still creepy.
Mar 22 2009 9:12PM
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gbirrd
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shhiittty + vibes
Mar 22 2009 9:12PM
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sick-as-aids
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man thats real rough.

++++ vibes, shows us we gota enjoy life whilst where still on it
Mar 22 2009 9:14PM
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ECGove
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fuck me I was on two planes today....

and last time I flew was the day that plane crash landed in the Hudson River

scary shit right there
Mar 22 2009 10:44PM
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Dainsey
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i heard it was a youth group
my prayers with the families
Mar 22 2009 10:46PM
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Mrvic.
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Mar 22 2009 10:53PM
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skiminnesota
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first off, RIP to those who died.

Granted flying is and never has been a big deal to me (my dad is a airline pilot) i wouldnt be worried, and IMO the fear of flying with the rational "i could die" is just silly. if you're going to freak out over flying than you sure as hell better not get behind the steering wheel of a car. my uncle is like this and IMO again its just super blown out of proportion.

where did you read this about the owner of an airline, ide like to read it. (not calling you a liar ide just enjoy reading it)

Mar 22 2009 10:59PM
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Caveman.
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In the cemetary, the news just showed a picture of the fireball...


RIP to everyone who died, this is horrible news.
Mar 23 2009 12:15AM
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IceCreamer
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RIP vibes to families
Mar 23 2009 12:22AM
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Peter.
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wow, i am so sketched out about planes now

+vibes to the friends and families
Mar 23 2009 12:23AM
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Bob_Gnarley
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The PC-12 is only a 9-seater to my knowledge, somethings gotta be wrong with the initial news reports.
Mar 23 2009 12:24AM
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Hannah.
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wow thats so sad i hate seeing this stuff
Mar 23 2009 12:26AM
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GhostfaceKillah
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i have suspected this for some time now... there have been WAY too many plane crashes this year.
Mar 23 2009 12:29AM
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gmack24
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So sad, damn man really makes you think. I wonder if any of them were NS
Mar 23 2009 12:31AM
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Shark.
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wow i have to fly cross country tomorrow...
Mar 23 2009 12:35AM
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GreekAR6
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Yeah but not from lack of repair.

+++vibes, do they know what brought it down?
Mar 23 2009 11:55AM
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pat_in_the_hat
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my guess is ice. we got about 5 inches of freezing rain/slush last night
Mar 23 2009 12:00PM
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SKIDUBAIGUY
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Compared to the amount of car crashes a year, plane crashes are nothing.

Ill quote some top proffers and such here-

" if you fly domestically in the industrialized world (say, Europe), your chances of dying are one in 50 million."

"It's worth noting that in the United States, your risk of dying of your next flight is: One in 60 million. In other words, you could fly every day for the next 164,000 years on average before you would perish in a crash."

"Sure, no one can say that you won't crash, but no one can also say that you will not get hit by a car next time you cross the street either. "

I think looking at what those three different proffesers of aviation said, your chances are pretty slim on dieing in a plane crash, dont be scared, pilots are trained for years before they are allowed to drive a plane, drivers of cars only afew months.
Mar 23 2009 12:18PM
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lorida
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Sorry, but not very accurately put.

Airlines MUST adhere to a standard of maintenance. Yes, there are always "Snags" after a flight (snag is basically a problem but is usually bullshit...i.e. pilot says "I heard a noise coming from the back) but all airlines in the U.S. & Canada must do their maintenance at a certain number of hours, or they will be shut down very quickly.

What they ARE doing which is a bit scary, is that they are now bringing the planes where labour is cheaper to have larger inspections/maintenance done. Singapore, has been a hot spot for Air Canada. They fly their planes over there with a few approved mechanics to sign for the work, while these uncertified airplane mechanics do practically everything.

Anyways, planes have always gone down, just word gets around a little quicker now. Nothing to worry abou.t

Mar 23 2009 12:35PM
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PagesHouse
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I didn't put it any way... accurate or not.... this is coming from a guy who was interviewed so pick a fight with him.

And unfortunately I don't have a link or anything to it : ( sorryyy it was on the news a little while ago.
Mar 23 2009 12:45PM
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*DwC*
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The crazy thing is i am in Butte Montana right now creepy......  RIP
Mar 23 2009 12:56PM
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lorida
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lol, No hate to you, I understand you were just re-saying what the guy sitting in a dark spot with some genre of voice fucker uper said on t.v =)

I asked a pilot about all this tonight...he said that it's not so bad as of now, but statistically speaking, in 2015 plane traffic will be up so much that there should be an accident every week...statistically.

This site is pretty cool to see how many planes are in the air at any given time...right now there are 1297 airborne. http://flightaware.com/live/

The pilot also said that there are several cargo planes that go down, but nobody ever hears about those... Fedex and Purolator are good at covering up.

Mar 24 2009 1:47AM
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ChronicLines
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Way whack, sucks in happened so close to home.
Mar 24 2009 1:49AM
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Adrienne.
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there was a cargo plane in tokyo that exploded while trying to land it was like 2 hrs after this crash the pictures are crazy...that is insane how many planes are in the air.
Mar 24 2009 2:04AM
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PacificRimJob
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im glad i decided not to follow my family legacy and become a fighter pilot...

or a pilot in general... so sad are all the crashes these days... first the plane in buffalo, then the tokyo crash, and this... terrible.

Mar 24 2009 3:02AM
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highaltNM
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I fly three weeks out of the month.  I sure hope that's not the way I go out
Mar 24 2009 4:04AM
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sarahskis
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we just booked our flights back from australia on the "skybus".  Bigger than a 747, luxurious...and basically the titanic of the sky.

Shit.

Mar 24 2009 5:31AM
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Alex=God
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you are correct. A pc-12 can only seat nine.
Mar 24 2009 7:03AM
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sirmurdah
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my ex girlfriend's dad was on that plane.. i was with her when she got the call telling her that it had crashed =/
Mar 24 2009 8:33AM
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shea.
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Mar 24 2009 8:39AM
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MEGAZORD
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They overloaded the plane and it cost them bigtime. 
Mar 24 2009 8:51AM
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An10a_Eng
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overloading didnt do it. there were too many people but half of them were small children. they are looking at ice on the wing again
Mar 24 2009 10:25AM
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feihlination
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well the main problem with statistics is that they dont mean anything for every single flight. of course your chances of getting killed in a airplane crash are smaller than winning a few lotteries in your life, celebrating that on a beach and getting killed by a lightning strike right in the moment a great white rips your head off.

what is shocking us that much in airplane crashes (since more people died last weeks on the worlds roads) is, i guess, this feeling of helplessness. the pilot says: "i regret that i have to inform, bla bla". everyone is screaming and you cant do anything. you can just sit and wait. horrible imagination

Mar 24 2009 10:43AM
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An10a_Eng
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^^^^the pilot is usually frantically trying to save everyone, not telling them theyre gonna die. but true
Mar 24 2009 10:47AM
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feihlination
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of course he will try, but i would say that at some point he knows that he cant do anything to avoid the crash, i am not sure if he would say something or if i would, both things are kinda harsh, dying without seeing it coming or knowing exactly that is over now
Mar 24 2009 11:36AM
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Bren-Ten
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terrible=[
Mar 24 2009 11:46AM
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