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My Bluehouse design entry

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Ender
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Everyone go and vote! There are a lot of dope designs

Here's my submission:
Biggie vs Pac
http://bluehouseskis.com/biggie-vs-pac

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Mar 21 2009 1:37PM
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DirtyMick
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The amount of photoshop on those skis makes me sad.
Mar 23 2009 4:05PM
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uT.
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I dunno how else you expect most people to do their entry
Mar 23 2009 8:16PM
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deezy.
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if thread creator wins
im buying those skis
no question
Mar 23 2009 8:49PM
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DirtyMick
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You're right.

It just bugs me as a "Graphic Designer" to see people do things in Photoshop and call it "Design".  It's not the preffered medium for design from our standpoint.

 Also, I was thinking about it earlier, not that I know anything of making skis' graphics or the process but I almost bet that PDFs from photoshop would be a PAIN in the ass to try and print on a ski or whatever it is you transfer them to.

Personally i think most of the entries posted in this thread are all photoshoped. Drop shadows and Emboss filters ALL over the place.

But I'll quit now while I'm ahead.

Just my opinion.
Mar 23 2009 9:03PM
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groll20
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jw, what is the preferred medium? i might wanna try it
Mar 23 2009 9:59PM
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uT.
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sounds like u can eat it
Mar 23 2009 10:02PM
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123ski
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mine were all done in illustrator files that are all larger than the actual ski.
Mar 23 2009 10:45PM
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spudz
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your a noob
Mar 24 2009 2:51AM
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Ender
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Yea I know what you mean, vector vs non-vector, but it depends on what you are designing.   I did these in PS because I dont know my way around AI too well yet, but I am learning.  I mainly design websites which PS is obviously the better tool for that than AI.  I dont think things should be stripped the title of "design"  just because they arent made in AI.  IMHO AI design alone without PS effects (unless it's a logo) are usually weak.
Mar 24 2009 8:49AM
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Leeyum
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sick skis man cool idea
Mar 24 2009 10:07AM
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Obsessedwski
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I agree I can do designs all in illustrator but repetition and things are made so much easier by brushes in PS etc. I find I work best using both PS and AI they both compliment each other really well.
Mar 24 2009 1:47PM
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DirtyMick
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Yes, totally.

My BFA in Graphic Design and Minor in Art History mean I don't know what I'm talking about right?
Mar 24 2009 3:13PM
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Obsessedwski
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hey c'mon you are being a bit cocky

I know he did call  you a noob but still

it doesn't matter what something is designed on, as long as it looks good. It's not like I'm going to go into a shop to look at skis or look at a poster and go nuh uh fuck that I'm not going to buy those skis or that poster looks so retarted because it was designed on PS not AI.

Mar 24 2009 5:31PM
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DirtyMick
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The preferred medium that I was thinking of was Indesign/Illustrator. 

For those of you curious/interested in what I have to say regarding design, keep reading.  Anyone who wants to add dumb shit like "you're a noob" please go elsewhere.

I was hinting at it earlier when I stated that I wasn't sure what the process for transposing graphics to skis was.  I'm in the print business right now as a Graphic Designer and I know all about the right way and wrong ways to build things.

A lot of people send us "ads" that they "designed".  More often then not, they're completely screwed up and done totally wrong. Either using photoshop or Publisher(eww) they've sent us a file that's nearly useless or one that we have to play with and waste our time trying to fix/make it work.

Now I'm discussing this because it's a topic of interest of mine.  Also, I'm tired of people claiming "Graphic Designer" title/status without knowing shit about it (this is probably due to the fact that I'm in Alaska).

I really like that Bluehouse is making a go at being a ski company that can compete with the other up-and-comer ski companies. While it's good marketing on their part to get kids stoked about their brand by having a ski designed by kids that would ride them, there is also a down side to it.

The downside would be the possiblility that they're going to recieve a lot of entries that they won't be able to use, or that they will have to play with a lot to make work. However, like I said before, I don't know the graphics-to-base process or the rules of entry for the design contest.

On a similar note, here's an interesting article to read: http://www.davidairey.com/logo-design-contests-bad-for-business/


Mar 24 2009 6:15PM
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DirtyMick
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Maybe I am being a bit cocky.

Pardon me, but if you had spent 4-5 years and about 100 grand on an education, I do believe that entitles me to have an Educated opinion. Literally.

Of course you have no idea what the skis were designed on. Lots of skis are merely artwork transfered over. I'm sure you could ask Schmies about it.

I'm simply trying to defend the practice of design and the designers.

It's hard for me to explain. If I come up with a better way to describe it, I'll let you know.
Mar 24 2009 6:20PM
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uT.
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ur allowed to think what you want but there was nothing there stating how we had to design our entry, it worked last year so there musnt be any problem
Mar 24 2009 8:15PM
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DirtyMick
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Cool.
Mar 24 2009 8:25PM
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Obsessedwski
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yeah no I agree that you are entitled an educated opinion but you can still express it in a humble way.

I know where you're coming from, I wouldn't consider myself a professional graphic designer, but I think I can say that I am an amature freelance designer just starting out. Would that be fair?

I mean I haven't had any formal education, I just played around with PS/AI a lot and just happened to get the hang of it better than some people. I am doing some work for people now, and I try to format it in a usuable way (.eps, .pdf, .ai whatever) that's easy to transfer to whatever medium they would like the graphics on.

Some contests I see have entries that have obviously been done on paint, but if you can pull it off and make it look good or even appeal to whatever audience you are marketing to I think anything goes.


Mar 24 2009 8:28PM
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DirtyMick
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Totally understandable.

If you're interested in that type of thing, check out this website http://justcreativedesign.com/

Guy has great ideas and habits.

I wasn't trying to be harsh or anything like that. It's just annoying to see people talk/judge things that they probably have no formal education in while claiming that they might know about it thus ill-informing others who read it.

Just trying to help. Maybe I shouldn't. haha.
Mar 24 2009 8:36PM
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Obsessedwski
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For sure man, thanks for the help.

Its kind of like when I go on Yahoo Answers the skiing section to help people out I see some ridiculous answers from people who have no idea what they're talking about. I'm not even saying like gaper stuff I mean like really stupid fucking things and it pisses me off so much because that person that would maybe otherwise grown to love skiing if he had gotten the right advice would go on to hate on our sport or become another annoying gaper.
Mar 25 2009 1:02AM
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Z_rob
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those are super dope.
you got my vote
Mar 25 2009 1:21AM
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spudz
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hey noob,

take your fancy shmancy degree and illustrate that.

peace noob.
Mar 25 2009 12:20PM
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Ender
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Mar 25 2009 12:38PM
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Ender
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changed logo to gold, im at work and dont have time for new bases right now
Mar 25 2009 12:39PM
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DirtyMick
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Yeah, you pretty much summed it up right there.
Mar 25 2009 1:28PM
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