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Buying a Longboard

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Thenowhereman42
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So last night I got really fucking drunk and went longboarding.  I've done quite a lot of longboarding before (usually drunk), but this time was pretty special.  It was just a super mellow hill to start out with that then got stupidly steep and fast, long story short I got blood all over my tall t, possibly slightly concussed, and pretty in love with longboarding.  So its time to buy one.

I saw that whirling dervish video and totally wanted one of those, but I'm shopping in the $150-$200 range (for a complete) so that probably out.

I heard the kracked skulls m1's are basically a cheap version, but that board looks really thick and stiff to me.  Are they basically just solid?  It seems that way.  I want something pretty flexy and pop-y so I can bounce up and down and fuck around and such, but I'm also 190lbs.  But it just doesn't seem like the M1 would flex period.

What are Bustin boards like?  I was looking at the Complex.  It looks like it would be pretty flexy and fun, and has a cool shape.  The Bustin Strike looks cool too but I think it might be a little short, I'm 6'2 so I was looking for around 42".

I was considering the Earthwin Supercharger as well but somebody told me they don't really have any flex either.

I'm going to pretty much just be either fucking around/carving on slight hills or bombing big hills, I probably won't be using the board to get places because I have a car, so pump-ability isn't a massive issue.  I want something I can do slides with.

Suggestions?  I've really only ridden Sector 9's because thats what everyone has.


Mar 18 2009 4:43PM
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pRETTyLight5
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i have an arbor board. I LOVE it. and definitely in your price range get one for sure. http://www.evogear.com/skateboards/arbor-pin-koa-longboard-2007.aspx

its flexy but not too much. its a very nice, great quality board and i have taught and hooked 4 people on longboarding from it
Mar 18 2009 4:54PM
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Bulky
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you should look at original skateboards. they have some of the best carving boards i have ever ridden, it kinda feels more like surfing or snowboarding then skating.

Mar 18 2009 4:58PM
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.AR6rider.
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Spend the extra money and get a Loaded board.  You won't be disappointed.  I've had my Dervish for like a year and a half and I love it.  It carves really well and it's really stable.  Definitely worth it in my opinion.
Mar 18 2009 5:03PM
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*Fujative*
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I have a Landy Evo. Its sick. I love it.
Mar 18 2009 5:20PM
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spotter487
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go with loaded dude. I have a couple longboards but my favorite has always been my loaded fish. put some nice big gumballs on it and swiss ceramics. smooth as hell
Mar 18 2009 5:31PM
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Swaggermager
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sector 9 bombhills board with ty dye trucks with risers on it... has a lot of flex and great for carving around. 150$ at zumiez dont buy from  sctor 9's website they cost more.
Mar 18 2009 5:32PM
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Bill.
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If you can save a bit longer, a loaded is worth it.
I have a Loaded Vanguard, Landyachtz Chinook and a custom built pintail.
My favorite by far is my Vanguard, i have the flex 3 and i weigh about 190 also and its great, if i were you though, i would consider the flex 1 or 2, because mine bottoms out on hippie jumps and such, but not on regular riding.
Mar 18 2009 5:38PM
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Drew.C
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i am 130 pounds and have a kracked skulls m1. i have the biggest one and i flex it really well. you might be too heavy ahahah. just kidding but there super fun for hills but u cant really manual, nose , manual, or coffin ride them and that is some of my favorite atuff to do haha. but very good for price. i recomend it.
Mar 18 2009 6:44PM
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Thenowhereman42
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I'm leaning towards this, because its pretty much what I was looking for, a cheapish dropboard thats over 40".  Anyone got shit to talk about this board? Reasons not to buy it? I still want to hear some opinions on the Bustin because its pretty sweet that you can choose the colors and such.
Mar 18 2009 11:14PM
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Thenowhereman42
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So your saying that the kracked skulls actually does flex?  Because then I would probably get that.  Why can't you coffin ride or manual them?  I love coffins haha.  Is it just because its a drop board? Never thought about it but a coffin on a drop would probably be pretty sketch.  I've never actually ridden a drop for more than a couple minutes.
Mar 18 2009 11:17PM
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Nicholas.
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as for wheels, gotta go with abec 11 gumballs. just putting those on my cheap ass board made it twice as smooth and fun to ride as my friends 300 dollar arbor.
Mar 18 2009 11:19PM
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s.parker
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Loaded is where its at, the principal of my schools a loaded rep hes the man, and the boards are reallly sick
Mar 18 2009 11:46PM
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Thenowhereman42
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Yeah now I'm probably going to go with a loaded.  At the end of the day its an extra $50 and its not like I need the money.

I was going to get gumballs, which ones do I get?  I don't know the meaning of the 8A or whatever tag is at the end.
Mar 18 2009 11:55PM
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BigJew
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I have a kracked skulls M1 and it's really sick. It's pretty flexy and a lot lighter and thinner than most Sector 9 decks. Kracked skulls is definitely the best value. I'd suggest a 46" Scimitar with Lemon Big Zigs, the best part is that it only costs $160. Plus, the hardware is really high quality so if you buy a new deck you won't need to buy new trucks or wheels.

Loaded and Bustin make really nice stuff too, but they'll cost you twice what you'll pay for a Kracked Skulls.
Mar 18 2009 11:57PM
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Bill.
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I would get BigZigs over gumballs, they feel alot more lively in my experience. i have limes and they are working pretty good so far.
Mar 19 2009 12:02AM
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pmw
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dervhish isnt a downhill board
Mar 19 2009 12:09AM
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lineskier10
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get a dregs pintail, definitely one of the best boards i've ever ridden was a dregs pintail, not sure how long it was because it was my friends but he let me use it all the time and it was awesome
Mar 19 2009 12:17AM
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beer.
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rayne rips the shit out of loaded (and everything else) so hard for just a pure carving board.

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with just reds I swear that thing picks up speed twice as fast as a normal board, which might be a problem except for the fact that it will redefine your idea of stability.  its about as thick as a dinner table and doesn't have an ounce of flex which means no speed wobbles ever.

I always plug rayne in these threads, but its only because that board (which is my friend's) is head and shoulders above anything else.  a completely different riding experience.  believe me when I say this, I worked at a skate shop and have ridden many many different boards over the years.

anyways can anyone tell me which wheels would be the best for a mix between carving ability and sliding for my pintail?  or just the appropriate durometer?

Mar 19 2009 12:22AM
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Shlogan
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what abot someone 110 pounds? is there anything that would be flexy for my weight? btw i know nothing about longboarding
Mar 19 2009 12:27AM
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ChefBoyardee
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Ive got a Bustin Spliff and I love the little thing but she gets shaky on decent hills... their new dropthru I think its called the strike or something looks fun too. If you can hold out and get the extra cash I would def go with the loaded, amazing board and the guys who make em are pretty legit too. A dervish with lime bigzigs or orangatang in heats and some swiss bones is the sex.
Mar 19 2009 1:38AM
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Horizons
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Dervish's are the best, where the hell can you get a complete thats between $150-$200?  The decks is between there I thought. Dervish's don't do to well for downhill :/
Mar 19 2009 2:00AM
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Alex_G
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Mar 19 2009 2:11AM
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Phantom
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word. plus, you can get it for under $160 if you type in mongoose for the promo code on the kracked skulls site, you'll get 5% off.
Mar 19 2009 2:29AM
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MADmidwest
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if you want to slide a lot I would not recommend getting a board that has a lot of flex. You'll like anything you get but also I would get some higher duro wheels. Zig zags are still good at sliding when they are broken tho if u want to get those.
Mar 19 2009 2:39AM
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uni-corn
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How long is the "break in" period? Cause i have Zig Zags and want to slide lol
Mar 19 2009 2:51AM
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carbon.pulse
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Depends how hard you ride them. If you get out there and try to slide them they will break in after a good session.
Mar 19 2009 2:55AM
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uni-corn
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Oh and they are Zig Zag Retro's 70mm
Mar 19 2009 2:57AM
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Thenowhereman42
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Ok I'm pretty drunk right now so its time to buy this shit.

I'm torn between the Kracked Skulls Schmitar and Bustin Complex.

I've never ridden a drop board before, how big is the difference?  Bustin has such sick graphics.....
Mar 19 2009 3:08AM
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uni-corn
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BUSTIN FTW
Mar 19 2009 3:09AM
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Thenowhereman42
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I don't know man, the KS seems pretty sick.

Convince me to buy Bustin.  Also, if I went Bustin I'd have another descision to make between the complex and the strike.  Drop thru vs Longer?  I'm not sure.
Mar 19 2009 3:20AM
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afroman.35
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drop thrus are pretty sick when bombing hills and just pushing around, also for sliding because you have more leverage over your wheels.

get some orange zigs, they are about 86a which will be nice and hard for what you are wanting to do.

longer boards are generally more stable at high speeds and less agile when cruising around, but they are alot easier to learn how to dance on because there is more room. what ever you get, you will have fun on. unless you get sector9, they are cheap shit.
Mar 19 2009 4:26AM
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Mooserz
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im pretty sure im the only kid who has a dregs board

personally i love it because it does almost anything I want it to, but seriously i dont know if you go on vacation anywhere but if you do and its somewhere hot like florida or something, try to see if theres a Ron Jon near you~ those guys know whats up
Mar 19 2009 6:08AM
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Thenowhereman42
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I've been to a bunch of Ron Jon's actually.  I forgot they made skateboards for a second there.

I'm pretty much sure I'm going to go with the Kracked Skulls.  Now I just have to decide on length.  42, 44, 46?  I'm pretty huge at 6'2, 200, but I'm also using it mostly for carving and probably not going to be going faster than 25-30.  I want something pretty flexy as well, and I guess they flex more as they get smaller.
Mar 19 2009 6:20AM
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Mooserz
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okay well have fun with your purchase, I gotta go to school now though


buh bye
Mar 19 2009 6:25AM
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meggles
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I freaking looovelovelove my Kracked Skulls board. I got one for my boyfriend for his birthday last year annd then I got one for myself because I was jealous haha. They actually are really flexy.  I've got a Scimitar and I got him an M1. Plus the boards are suuper plain so you can do what you want with the design, which is awesome. I'm like, 5'6, 130 and the flex is fine for me.  That Whirling Dervish vid is probably my favorite thing on Youtube..I'm afraid to get going fast though because I have no idea how to stop/slow down and I've had some rough falls hahah. Ohh welllll. Gotta sack up I guess..sometimes I wish I had testosterone
Mar 19 2009 8:07AM
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Thenowhereman42
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Though I might just bumpity bump this, I am going for the KS (mostly because its so cheap), but I fucking can't decide on 42", 44", or 46".  Most of the boards I've ridden are only like 38", but a 38" dropthru would probably be too small for me.  I want to go as small as possible but while leaving enough room to cross step my big ass size 14 feet on.  I'm thinkg 44, but I'm really not sure.

Also for some reason I keep hearing that KS boards get more flexible when you go smaller, which doesn't make sense.  But then I've also heard the flex patterns just vary a little in general.
Mar 19 2009 3:36PM
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meggles
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Well the boards are pretty unique..I mean it's such a small company the boards aren't all identical you know? I've got a 44", and it's pretty big but you're a big guy so it really wouldn't hurt to go for a 46" I think. If you were like a foot shorter and 50 pounds lighter then you probably wouldn't be able to get as much flex out of it haha, but I would imagine you'd be just fine on that
Mar 19 2009 3:40PM
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Thenowhereman42
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Yeah thats ones of the chill things about the company.  I used to drink a hard cider that didn't have an alcohol content on it anywhere because they were so small it varied from batch to batch.  Same sort of deal really.  Don't have to worry about quality control either because lots of people say they've broken one really quick and he's just sent them a new one in like 3 days.

...I think I might have to go with the 46" then.  How big are you?
Mar 19 2009 4:02PM
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meggles
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Haha I'm about 5'6, 130, and a girl
Mar 19 2009 4:36PM
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Thenowhereman42
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lol you need a pink name
Mar 19 2009 4:46PM
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meggles
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Been there, done that, got perverted sexual messages on a daily basis from 13 year old boys who can't keep it in their pants haha. Haven't gotten one since..
Mar 19 2009 5:03PM
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Thenowhereman42
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Its funny after I made that post I immediately thought that was probably why. hahaha

I think I'm going to buy the 46" tonight, if only because I'm big so I can, and it'll be like 10 inches longer than my friend's board, so I can make fun of him.
Mar 19 2009 5:05PM
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mike_e
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Im thinking of buying a longboard. If i am going to use mine for just cruising around and carving, not riding agressivly and going at highspeeds, what length should i get? Im 5'8'' 130 lbs
Mar 19 2009 5:18PM
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mike_e
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bermp

Mar 19 2009 8:02PM
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skithesprings
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http://www.bustinboards.com/boards.asp

check out the spliff or the strike, the spliff will carve better and be more maneuverable but the strike will be really easy to push and a bit more stable at speed because its a drop deck.

plus bustin is as core of a company as they come, and you can design your own custom graphics so your board is one of a kind.

i have a spliff and it is by far the most fun board i have ever ridden. pm me if you need any info or have any questions.

Mar 19 2009 8:27PM
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K2skipunk
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Yea, for sure the 46". I'm 6'2" and 217 lbs and love my KS. Soooo sick, so awesome to carve and pop in and out with. Good choice.
Mar 19 2009 8:33PM
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MangoSteeze
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THIS IS THE BOARD YOU WANT-------- i got mine for 170 with shipping

http://cgi.ebay.com/Never-Summer-Heist-Longboard-drop-thru-trucks_W0QQitemZ220379578915QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item220379578915&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50


 i just bought one of these off ebay, from same seller. had it for a week now.  my friend has the dervish and its pretty much the same board. dervish is a little flexier and has more spring because of bamboo. bamboo means more fun for carving but worse for speed. with more concave and camber. better grip tape and ptex tip/tail bumpers.


 bassicly This board is the shit.

 PM if you have any questions

Mar 19 2009 8:48PM
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MangoSteeze
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shit thats kinda hard to read .... i should probably redraft that.
Mar 19 2009 8:51PM
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mike_e
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Is a 46'' board too long for me if im 5'8'' 130 lbs. and im gonna be cruising around mostly not going extremely fast?
Mar 19 2009 9:13PM
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Phantom
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i wouldn't say it's too long, it'd be nice for just cruising on.
Mar 20 2009 12:56AM
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