Urban/DJ Fork

defintly go with the dirtjumpers ... i havnt herd many good things about rockshox and i got dirtjumpers on my p2 and there a dream

get rockshox argyle 318.... best dj fork in the game, marzocchi cant even compare

DJ's suck. Heavy, clanky, internals are shit.

Argyle is the way to go for sure.

I just got a slammed Pike 426, gonna turn it into a Pargyle this summer though.

Dirtjumpers are heavy pieces of shit.  Rockshox is a great brand.

not entirely, i have 07 dj 2's on my black market, theyre solid as fuck.

dirt jumper 1 is really nice. i rode it for about a year.

I'd go for the Argyle. I just like RS a whole lot more than Marzocchi.  In my opinion, 07 was the last good year for Marz, before they got sold to Tenneco and were moved to Taiwan.

highly suggest the Pike 454

Isnt the Pike a longer travel all mountain fork, or am i thinking of something else.  What bike were you running the pike on?

Yeah thats what ive been hearing, with the quality of parts etc.

If you have the money to, get a Fox Van 36 series fork, and have it professionally lowered to 80mm, you could also go for a Fox Van 32 series fork in the 15 mm standard, light, and still keeps the fork super rigid. The reason i suggest the van especially in the Fox models is because of the simplicity of the coil spring for lowering the fork. Any other fork I would look at an Argyle 318-409, personally i ride the 409 lowered to 80 mm, i prefer it way more over the 318 personally I don't like the feel of the spring. Don't get a marzocchi, they are solid forks for a while, but tend to crap out, especially in the past few years since moving production to Taiwan I think it is. Manitou gold labels are nice, I believe velvet and RST arew both coming out with high end jump forks as well this year. If you ride urban i would highly suggest you lower the fork of choice to 80mm But no more with the cannondale or it will make the geo feel really weird. your other option is a rigid fork, BLKMRKT contraband would be my choice. hope this helps out!

Is there much of a difference between the van 36 and van 32, other than the height of course. because im not too sure about getting it lowered or whatever.  I definitely want to get something 80mm or so because i agree the geo would feel real weird on that bike with something longer. but thanks a lot for the help.

Argyle is still the way to go ove a DJ. If you can afford it, the Pike is an amazing jump fork. It's an Argyle with smoother internals and more adjustment possibilities. It's adjustable travel from 95mm to 140mm respectively and also has motion control so you can adjust stiffness and compression. I'd avoid the 454 for urban and dj just because it's air and not coil like the 426.

Here's my freeride / jump rig with a Pike 426.

If you choose to run a fox fork your going to have to lower it regardless, unless you spend the money to get a talas. However i would not recommend the talas, yea it has travel adjust but your going to want something at 80mm, the talas goes to 90mm but its not meant to be constantly run at its minimum travel, its not good for the internals of the fork. With the Van R 36 you get a bit of a heavier fork, but its bigger and burlier, meant to take the abuses of freeride. Other then that they are similiar forks. Thing with the 32 is the 15mm standard only comes on the RLC model, basically you get lockout and and low speed compression, the latter which is basically useless to you. Lockout may however could be useful, giving you the ability to really stiffen up the fork fast. So in conclusion, personally I would get the 36, it's going to be stiffer, its meant for the abuses of freeride, and especially good for bigger guy's (i fall into this catagory so obviously my choice), its also going to have a bit less deflection. The 32 will be lighter but has some useless features, wont be as stiff but is still going to hold up great, to put a weight number on it i would say between 175 and 200 pounds. The 36 Van is about $820 and the 32 is $550. In both cases you will need them lowered, and i suggest putting atleast an x firm spring in them.

Heads up on the Fox discussion...

TALAS - Only externally travel adjustable fork.

VAN - Can not be externally adjusted and can NOT be lowered internally either (stated clearly by Fox in their manual).

FLOAT - Can not be externally adjusted but can be internally travel adjusted using spacers you can get directly from fox. I believe they can be dropped to 100mm.

Other stuff:

The 36 line has 160mm travel, except on adjustable Talas and limitable Float. They also have 36mm stansions. 20mm Thru Axle which is a much more favorable feature in the freeride world these days, much more stability and durability vs a 10mm quick release system.

The 32 line has 140mm travel, once again only adjustable on Talas and Float. They have 32mm stansions which are smaller than those of the 36. They are not avaliable with a 20mm Thru Axle but is avaliable with a standard 10mm quick release system and a new 15mm thru axle quick release blend system. With this however you need a 15mm hub which may be a bit difficult to find and is just one more thing to buy since it's a new standard in the bike world.

With all these new forks you need the respective hub for the axle system. If you get a 10mm QR axle fork you need a 10mm QR hub. Same with 20mm Thru Axle and 15mm Thru Axle Quick Releases.

The only thing I really like about my DJ3 is that it's pretty stiff. But that mofo is HEAVY 7 LBs

that is an extremely nice jumpbike you got there. haha.

I think im going for the RS Argyle 318 most cost effective while still getting a nice part.

Thanks for all of the help guys!