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Backcountry video, the Lions, steep ridge helmet cam

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SomeGood
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Here is a link to video I made from a recent day of backcountry skiing at the Lions, above Lions Bay near Vancouver. Started on a narrow, steep ridge dropped down the west face into some glades. all Helmet cam footage.

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There is an accompanying trip report with pictures if you are interested;

http://www.somegood.ca/Site/Blog/Entries/2009/3/10_West_Lion_Ridge.html
Mar 15 2009 5:38PM
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epic_line
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Sweet
Mar 15 2009 10:21PM
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g-man
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killer dude.  What was the trek like to get up there?  How long did it take you?  nice work on the vid/mission.
Mar 15 2009 11:35PM
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J.D.
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Wow, that looked like it paid off.
Mar 16 2009 12:16AM
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epic_line
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Looks like there's some really sick lines up there.
Mar 16 2009 12:18AM
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epic_line
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That's something I want to ski soon
Mar 16 2009 12:44AM
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Download-My-Apps
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were you by yourself?
Mar 16 2009 12:49AM
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SomeGood
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^^^ Yes I was but read below.

I wanted to go back and edit my NS post to include something about safety but I can't, so I add a bit.

Although I did not, always travel in groups of 3 or more. Less than 3 should never be! Do as I say, not as I do. A lot of planning, and careful consideration went into my day out, not to mention lots of training and years of avalanche terrain experience. I had a back up plans, an emergency plan, and gear. I waited for a perfect day to do it.

You need a beacon, probe, and shovel and the knowledge and experience how to use them before going out of bounds from a resort or something like what what I did. Some people who never took a course have become very knowledgeable but it is so much easier, and faster to take a good 3 day course to start.


Play safe.
Mar 16 2009 1:31AM
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hucksplat
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Do as I say, not as I do?
Sorry, but that is horsecrap. You embarass yourself to speak as such.

Sick hike though, looks like a fun trip. You got some beauty conditions for it.
How much vert do you get and how long is the skin?
Any cabins around the area?
Mar 16 2009 1:51AM
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epic_line
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I have a avalanche shovel and probe. And am currently saving up for beacon.
Mar 16 2009 3:16AM
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Age
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That vid was radsauce.
Mar 16 2009 9:05PM
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cj
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I scope those lines from my deck. Nice vid!
Mar 16 2009 10:09PM
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epic_line
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Hey cj get me some good pics of the lions not just the line you want but all them because I want to ski it next year
Mar 17 2009 12:38AM
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cj
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too lazy to come out here and get them yourself but willing to hike 9+hrs in snow...?

https://www.newschoolers.com/web/content/pictures/id/67558/member_id/8143/

https://www.newschoolers.com/web/content/pictures/id/67557/member_id/8143/
Mar 17 2009 1:01AM
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SomeGood
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I sort of wish I never posted this Trip Report here since I know many of the users are a bit younger. I do not know "Who" and maybe you are an expert in avalanche terrain, etc... but I worry about what I potentially started here.

So to recap, that is FULL-ON dangerous avalanche terrain. I took my first 7 day avalanche course, and numerous other mountain safety and rescue courses back in the 1990's and have done a lot of travel in the backcountry since then. Anyone here who wants to ever do something like this, or even go out-of-bounds/duck a rope at a resort you should have at minimum;

Go to the Canadian Avalanche Centre's website 4 some skills and advice;
http://www.avalanche.ca/cac/youth/for-youth/

Take the CAC online training section;
http://access.jibc.bc.ca/avalancheFirstResponse/index.htm

Complete an AST 1 or longer course;
http://www.avalanche.ca/CAC_Training_Level1

Go here to buy the sickest avalanche movie ever made (with kick ass footage);
http://www.rockymountainsherpas.com/

Buy a probe, beacon, and shovel and make sure you have the knowledge and experience on how to use them.

And you should have a minimum of a 40 hour wilderness first aid course under you belt.

Repair and emergency gear to solve just about any gear or rescue scenario you might encounter.

Sorry to preach, stay safe.
Mar 17 2009 2:57AM
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J.D.
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Surprising how many people don't do the second part, just buy a beacon and never bother practicing using it.
Mar 17 2009 11:01AM
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Nihiriju
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It was awesome, in high school we had an outdoor education class where we were suppose to do backcountry skiing trips, but we got fucked over by a bunch of deaths that year, so we couldn't do any.

Anyways we had to use beacons a bunch and find two of them in a double sized football field in under 3 mins. I got both in like 56 seconds.

yet i still don't own a beacon.....fuck one day i won't be pooor. I haven't been doing too much backcountry though unless its with guiding friends etc.
Mar 17 2009 12:56PM
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epic_line
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I'm talking avalanche tanning and other training I need to outback skiing.
Mar 17 2009 1:34PM
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epic_line
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But yeah you're all right you should have a minimum of 3 people and lots of training. I was talking to this ski school instructor in whistler and I guess you can get beacons that monitor you're heart rate so if there's 2 people buried in a avalanche you can save the one that still has a beating heart, really cool stuff
Mar 17 2009 1:37PM
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Bamski
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Wow! That's unreal! I always wondered what it was like up there.

The best I can do is dream about some of the lines I can see from my bedroom window.
Mar 17 2009 2:03PM
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epic_line
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I'm trying to make it reality.
Mar 17 2009 2:15PM
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Download-My-Apps
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being a shade darker will be of little help ;)
Mar 17 2009 3:54PM
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J.D.
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It actually monitors minor movements I think, I forget which one that is. But I think you both need to have the same beacon for that to work. Also nightmare scenario is that not working and someone alive gets presumed dead and left. Better just to have good people and do a search properly and find everybody. Yknow, ideally. 4 people = a whole damn lot better than 3.
Mar 17 2009 8:29PM
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epic_line
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Training*
Mar 18 2009 12:08AM
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taaayyla
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sketcchyyyyyyyyyyyyyy but cool

what was the avalanche rating that day??

Mar 18 2009 11:57PM
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SomeGood
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^^^LOW
Mar 19 2009 1:57AM
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Turner.
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that's siiick!
it gets pretty rowdy once you hit the glades.
Mar 21 2009 2:24PM
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mckeeman
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not to be a damper on your trip but what is the point of having a beacon probe and shovel if you are doing a solo mission? sounds like a pretty dumb thing to do. what are you going to do? dig yourself out?
Apr 9 2009 4:23PM
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Hedekar
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Looks like pretty nice conditions that day.
Apr 9 2009 6:47PM
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stevenc
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Not to shit on the origial poster because he lookes like he knows what he is doing, but if things were to slide at least S and R would have a better chance of recovering his body.  Although that does him no good, it would probably be a good thing for his family to have his body come back right away rather then waiting to have it melt out at spring time.  Another good reason to bring it along would be if he sees another group set off an avi in the back country he would be able to help.  I would feel pretty stupid in the BC without any gear and not being able to help another group that could be in trouble.

Apr 12 2009 9:34PM
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epic_line
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Buried in avalanche. first thought, lucky I have a shovel. Second though, O shit it doesn't work. Third thought, what a wast of money that was.
Apr 14 2009 2:52AM
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camohard
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another thing. even though someone has beacon, probe and shovel + all the skill in the world, doesn't mean you're good to go in the BC. The ability to read snowpack, sloper, etc (chances of a slide) are crucial, as well as effective routefinding. Lots of people die/get fucked in the slide itself (i.e. they don't even make it to worrying about getting dug out before they suffocate).

That beacon people are talking about is the newest barryvox, called the pulse. The technology is controvercial, and with good reason. I don't really like the fact that it has that feature, but own one because after extensive research I decided that it is still the best device for me. Yes, it monitors for minor movements (a heartbeat would be picked up as movement, so you're both kind of right). It shows a heart symbol too. I don't believe it provides actual vital info.

To get back to the vid: dope. I've hiked them in the summer and it took quite a while. What route did you take? I can't imagine going right up from lions bay with full BC ski gear. How long did it take?

Yes, it would have been better to go in a group, and no one should be suggesting that anyone go out alone, but just the fact that he did it and put only himself in very calculated and minimal danger shouldn't be a point of hate/disrespect/whatever. I think the probability of getting seriously injured by falling was probably greater than that of being caught in a slide (not that this necessarily makes it a 100% okay thing to have done).
Apr 15 2009 1:22AM
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