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Rail damage and carving

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KickerTheCanMan
Posts: 207 - Karma: 10
I was wondering what people thought about rail damage as it affects carving/general skiing. Personally, I do about 50%/50% in and out of the park, and my edges are decently rounded off under the boot and I don't notice too much loss of edge hold on the rest of the mountain. I just make sure theyre deburred with some various stones. Any input?
Jan 14 2004 11:38PM
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Crystal-needs-a-park
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skiing the rest of the mountain on the skis i jib on is intense, ive just designated them park skis... theyre beat to shit... and mildly firm snow is like ice
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Jan 14 2004 11:54PM
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BallinBU
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doesn't bother me too much, and my skis are dead
Jan 14 2004 11:56PM
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permanente1600
Posts: 1368 - Karma: 10
i havent noticed it that much unless im on ice.


originally posted by chris_64_impala : why do u need a fat ski? huh fatty? yeah thats right u like the chocoalte
Jan 15 2004 12:09AM
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destruction
Posts: 643 - Karma: 11
Only on the hard stuff is where I have problems.


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Jan 15 2004 12:25AM
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vOiCe
Posts: 61 - Karma: 10
i have NO edges but thats ok... well they catch every once and a while but no big deal
Jan 15 2004 11:13AM
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Itsbackfliptime
Posts: 18901 - Karma: 75
the only problems I've had is when I try and race with my 1260s.

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Jan 15 2004 11:22AM
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Typical
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back in the day i won a GS race with 1080s
Jan 15 2004 1:37PM
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Irotate360
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haha^thats sweet as hell, but yea i have noticed a big diff. but i usually just switch my skis around so i dont ski on the edge i grind with





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Jan 15 2004 1:51PM
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nhfreeskier
Posts: 153 - Karma: 10
i wish i had more than one pair of skis to ski with
Jan 15 2004 5:05PM
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permanente1600
Posts: 1368 - Karma: 10
no you dont^^^^ i have 2 pairs and i can never decide which to ride. like one day i might want my mojos because there is some fresh snow, but then by the end of the day the snow is skied off and i want to go to the park, so then i'll want my park skis so i can slide rails and stuff (but im too lazy to go back to the car to get them) so i just whine about it.... hehe its more of a hassle than you think.


originally posted by chris_64_impala : why do u need a fat ski? huh fatty? yeah thats right u like the chocoalte
Jan 15 2004 6:26PM
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SofaKingdom
Posts: 122 - Karma: 10
I went from my old edgeless 1080's to new Armadas this year and I was carving circles without trying. Yes, i noticed a huge edge diff. It was awesome.
Jan 15 2004 6:29PM
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KootenayGuy
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is there a point where the edge gets so worn that its past the help of sharpening?
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Jan 15 2004 7:59PM
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KickerTheCanMan
Posts: 207 - Karma: 10
^ I would think so. Since rails end up rounding them off you'd have to scrape off so much to give it a sharp angle again you'd have no edge material left probably. But yeah, I do notice some diff, just not a huge one, and it's not like im a racer or anything so I just ignore it.

With swapping the skis though, I was thinking about this, and I end up putting most of my weight on my uphill ski when i grind, which for me is the left since i turn to the left when getting on a rail. So the left edge of the left ski is dulled the most. I don't swap mine because I generally think of your inside edge being the one that's more important in a turn, and that leaves my best edges inside. Is this good logic, or not?
Jan 15 2004 11:10PM
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Caden
Posts: 3213 - Karma: 10
ya i have round edges completely but i can still carve well in everything except ice... i just kinda slide my way accross ice.. i guess it helps to teach you to really pick your spots to turn.
Jan 15 2004 11:18PM
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35footkink
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I've found a huge difference outside of the park and with an occational sharpen it stays pretty good for a couple days. The simple fact is that your going to round your edges on the rails (I even cracked mine the other day) and if you can slide a decent rail, i'm sure you can ski with a little more difficulty anyway
Jan 15 2004 11:21PM
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MistaSkier
Posts: 1781 - Karma: 17
Just do what crystal-needs-a-park said. it helps.


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Jan 16 2004 1:22AM
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kjfreerider
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my edges are scarry turning on ice. espesially turning left. i almost fell off a cat track down a gully cuz my edges were dull and i couldnt turn



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Jan 16 2004 1:27AM
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nhfreeskier
Posts: 153 - Karma: 10
i can barly ski ice

Jan 23 2004 9:23AM
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brogilvie
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about how long can you slide rails before your edges are completely dead
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Jan 23 2004 11:15AM
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EastCoastPride
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2 hours.


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Jan 23 2004 11:17AM
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Dr.Barq
Posts: 720 - Karma: 15
i just sharpen em' up after every time i ride so i dont notice any diffrence and the only thing i mess my edges up is on rocks when im tree skiin
Jan 23 2004 11:36AM
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BallinBU
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1 hour and 45 minutes
Jan 23 2004 12:50PM
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Typical
Posts: 2269 - Karma: 83
shapening your edges quickly leads to no edge at all...


that didnt make sense
Jan 23 2004 3:01PM
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LC.
Posts: 5952 - Karma: 2,423
Most people put more pressure on the inside edges when grinding, which is why you should swap them over for carving and such.

One of the edges on my 99/00 Skogens is cracked clean in half and now one half is starting to peel away a bit and drag. I'm going to saw the bad bit of edge off and fill with epoxy - hopefully it will hold up.
Jan 23 2004 3:25PM
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Ski+Patroler
Posts: 62 - Karma: 10
I busted my beater/rail skis, so i find myself messing up the edges on my good skis when there is a good rail. bad times



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Feb 2 2004 5:07PM
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TheWorst
Posts: 7883 - Karma: 17
k it doesnt really do anything unless its icy cuz i have about 9 inches of edge gone on my candides and there fine... but i kinda want new skis
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Feb 2 2004 5:13PM
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winterparksuks
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i have beat the shit out of my v pros and they rip on groomed still or moguls








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Feb 2 2004 5:31PM
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*cowboy*
Posts: 8830 - Karma: 214
Unless all you do is nose/tail press, your wearing down your edges right under the boot. This isnt the park that affects your carving and all mountain performance. So, it shouldnt be an issue.


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Feb 2 2004 6:26PM
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grubix2
Posts: 2628 - Karma: 25
Is it possible to have an area of the ski re-edged? I really don't think so, but I'm not sure. Anyone know?
Feb 2 2004 6:53PM
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LC.
Posts: 5952 - Karma: 2,423
Yeah - you can get pieces of edge or the whole edge replaced, but I'm pretty sure it costs quite a lot. Probably only really worth doing if your skis are in really good condition apart from the edges.
Feb 3 2004 2:37PM
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mattster
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as for having 2 skis to ski i think it would be a good idea to just have screw em in screw em out bindings like line made so you would only have to buy one binding for each ski
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Feb 3 2004 6:04PM
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BigDNast-EE
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i soooo wish i had two pairs of skis...
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Feb 3 2004 6:16PM
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Irotate360
Posts: 6836 - Karma: 22
i have a ques, im goin away soon and i have 2 skis. which ski should i take. tens that have no edge but are a mildly fat ski or atomic supercrosses that i use for racen and r kick ass for riding on and thye can also take a beating. but i dk how they ride in pow. so should i take the edgeless pow ski or the skinnies that have edge. do u need alot of edge to ride pow. someone help me out




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Feb 3 2004 7:18PM
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Itsbackfliptime
Posts: 18901 - Karma: 75
you don't even need edges in powder. I'd go with the 1080s because at least then you have the option of going switch with no troubles.

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Feb 3 2004 9:47PM
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huckster989
Posts: 2147 - Karma: 12
my PEs couldn't stop on ice if my life depended on it! they are fine in every other condition and ice sucks any ways so its all good
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Feb 4 2004 3:23PM
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nothanks
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Feb 6 2004 9:16AM
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nothanks
Posts: 13551 - Karma: 31
i like cheese, and skiing
i love to ski, so should you, its fun, try it sometime
Feb 6 2004 9:16AM
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nothanks
Posts: 13551 - Karma: 31
i like cheese, and skiing
i love to ski, so should you, its fun, try it sometime
Feb 6 2004 9:16AM
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TheWorst
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wow ^ that was a pointless post...

i now have 15 inches of edge gone on one ski and 10 inches gone on the other ski, my tip is have gone and i havent noticed a huge difference in how they perform..
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Jun 28 2004 2:36PM
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r5tommy
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carving up okemos pipe is tricky after a rail session, but you get used to it.
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Jun 28 2004 2:50PM
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KWagner
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concept dude, your bringing back all the old school threads
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Jun 28 2004 6:16PM
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Stryken
Posts: 1396 - Karma: 22
If you are east coast it becomes more of a problem. However, I do rails and every now and then just put a fresh side edge on the ski and its fine.

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Jun 28 2004 6:41PM
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sconnyFC
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come on guys,

you have to admit, on the really, really icy days, it's kind of fun to cess slide the entire park and manuver around the jumps. or even doing wall tricks in the pipe. my edges are usually so dull i can't get 'em to hold the walls of our pipe some days anyway. midwest snow does that some times.






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Jun 29 2004 12:49AM
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