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Skier's responsibility?

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gbalkman
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A couple days ago, i was cruising down a groomer between the bottom of the park and the chair, and just over a roller, there was a dude that had just fallen, sprawled out with his equipment all over the hill. I just barely avoided taking him out as i skied past.

In the lift line, a guy approached me and was like, "what the hell is your problem?!? it is your responsibility to help a fallen skier by grabbing his equipment for him".

I argued that I went out of my way just to not run over his equipment, and that it is kind to help people out with their equipment, but definitely not a skiers responsibility. Any thoughts?
Mar 3 2009 4:40AM
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Cut_Copy
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idk if it falls under responsibility, but its definatly something id do just cause i do believe in karma

ive been in the situation where ive had a nasty spill and its always nice for someone to hand you your poles or ski thats 20 feet up the slope from you
Mar 3 2009 4:53AM
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Abc567def
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Its not your "responsibility" but i believe in karma and if was in that same position and had just eaten it off of something i would like to think that someone would come down to help me or at least make sure that I was ok. Cuz all you have to do is ski down hill to grab his stuff whereas he will have to walk up the hill to clean up his yard sale.

But hey that just IMO.
Mar 3 2009 4:54AM
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Static
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it's actually your responsibility to spray anyone who has fallen.
Mar 3 2009 6:35AM
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anthony_B
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I always help a fellow skier out... I never even stop to think about, I am always the first one to grab a ski or a pole. I know how it feels, and it's shit. A little help never hurt nobody.
Mar 3 2009 7:24AM
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meggers
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if i can stop and help i do. but if i was in your position and almost killed the guy then its different, you didn't really have the opportunity to stop becuase you were concentrating on not taking him or his stuff out. its not part of the responsibility code, its just common courtesy. but i get where you are coming from on this one. every situation is different. the person in the lift line probably thought you skied that close to him to be an ass instead of helping him. it is nice to help fallen skiers when you have the chance tho, i know i appreciate it!
Mar 3 2009 8:25AM
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mmckechnie
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Mar 3 2009 11:08AM
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Justin.B
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Mar 3 2009 11:52AM
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jedi.Jim
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It's not really your responsibility, but it's a nice thing to do. You didn't have much of a chance to stop and help him though, so it's all good.
Mar 3 2009 11:55AM
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SteveStepp
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You gotta be a good Samaritan, its the new hot shit. Plus if some old people see a G'd up kid helping a fallen skier, they might look at us other than "punks".
You can still spray snowboarders though....
Mar 3 2009 12:03PM
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Sewardo
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worddd, I always help out fallen skiiers if they accept the help, some gapers are too proud to take help lol
Mar 3 2009 12:05PM
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highaltNM
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Mar 3 2009 12:19PM
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Bren-Ten
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exact same
Mar 3 2009 12:37PM
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geet
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noone should have yelled at you for not helping them out.. but it is common courtesy to help someone out if theyre equipment is everywhere
Mar 3 2009 12:55PM
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Yung_Gnarley
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I always stop and ask people if they're okay if they are on the ground. I also help gather their shit. I do this stuff for everyone; even gapers. I just do it cuz it's the right thing to do. And because karma (not ns karma, real life karma haha) is real and will make you or break you. You give what you get and you get what you give. Bada bing, bada boom. Peace.

wow I sounded like a prick. end rant

Mar 3 2009 1:15PM
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TechnoPotamus
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Mar 3 2009 1:33PM
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yelsel
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Mar 3 2009 1:35PM
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gbalkman
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woah. ok, i don't think i explained this situation very well. it wasn't like i saw this guy from 20 feet away-- if this was on a mellow slope, I definitely would have stopped to help out. but i was bombing down the hill (skiing very fast), and came over the top of a roller, and he was just on the back side of it (similar to when someone is on the landing of a jump, and you are in the air).

If I had tried to stop when I finally saw the guy, I would have been at least hundred feet down the hill from him. I agreee, that helping people in general is the right thing to do, but I feel like I was wrongly yelled at in this situation.
Mar 3 2009 1:45PM
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Z_rob
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i always help a skier experiencing a "yard sale" because many times i have been helped or there have been times where i wish there was someone that would help too
Mar 3 2009 1:46PM
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00_Koda
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FUCK GAPER RACERS
Mar 8 2009 1:13AM
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phila
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im pretty sure that has nothing to do with the thread.

but yeah, its always nice to get a little help when you take a nasty fall and lose your shit.  and maybe one day you'll even meet a chick who falls and will be so thankfull she will repay you with sex and food

Mar 8 2009 3:15PM
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Lahooda
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Not your fault if you couldnt stop in time.
Mar 8 2009 3:38PM
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Smilemon
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Always check to see if your landings are clean. Thats a rule in every park i've ever been in. You didn't hit the guy, but it wasn't a clean roller..

Always play it safe, especially on groomers where the gapers are. You don't want to fight with them, they can't ski, but they probably have good lawyers.
Mar 8 2009 3:57PM
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HWW
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I'm not sure if anyone ever actually checks or cares about this rule, but in Austria where I live there is a rule which says:

 Every skier/snowboarder has to offer his/her help if there has been an accident.

I try to help if I can.

Mar 8 2009 4:18PM
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Goku
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I was coming out of a glade one time and i did a 180 out off a little bump and i was skiing switch down to the lift then this old guy starts getting closer and closer to me and puts me right up against a fence. So i decide I should either stop or revert so i start to spin around and hes right next to me, while there's 500 ft of room anywhere else, he hits me when I switch around, I fall, he keeps going, a bunch of people start saying how that was very rude of me, "how could I hit and ild guy like that", and "thats why I hate those twin tippers" was all I heard for the next hour. it was b.s
Mar 8 2009 5:38PM
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EvanMeyer
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If I am at the bottom of a rail or jump and a skier falls and skis come off or something ill deff snag it before it goes all the way down the hill but I dont do shit for snowboarders
Mar 8 2009 5:47PM
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steeze2pleeze
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if i see someone that yard saled i'll help them with their stuff, but since u didnt see him on the other side of the roller, there's really nothing you could have done. not your responsibilty
Mar 8 2009 5:51PM
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S3B
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ALPINE CODE

1. Always stay in control. You must be able to stop, or avoid other people or objects

2. People ahead of you have the right-of-way. It is your responsibility to avoid them

3. Do not stop where you obstruct a trail or are not visible from above

4. Before starting downhill or merging onto a trail, look uphill and yield to other

5. If you are involved in or witness a collision or accident, you must remain at the scene and identify yourself to the Ski Patrol

6. Always use proper devices to help control runaway equipment

7. Observe and obey all posted signs and warnings

8. Keep off closed trails and closed areas

9. You must not use lifts or terrain if your ability is impaired through use of alcohol or drugs

10. You must have sufficient physical dexterity, ability, and knowledge to safely load, ride, and unload lifts. If in doubt, ask a lift attendant

peace

Mar 8 2009 5:59PM
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dylansiggers
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If your blasting by then no, but if its like waist deep pow and the guy is trying to walk back up to his pole like 50 feet up the hill after sending a massive booter then ,yes, its your responsiblity haha
Mar 8 2009 7:44PM
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