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Bindings Vs. Binding systems
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On my all Mtn. skis I have a binding system but is it really that much better? Threre's a lot of hype, what's the deal?
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the point to a lot of the binding systems is that they do not ''fix'' the binding in two places. It is designed to allow the ski a more natural flex pattern. The reasoning behind it is that the standard way to mount a binding fixes the boot at two spots and impedes the natural flex of the ski. With a lot of the systems there is either one central mount point fixing a mechanism to the ski (that the binding is then connect to), or as with most, either the toe or heel peice is allowed some movement to allow the ski to flex.
Hopefully that is understandable, thoughts and descriptions in my head don't always match what I type.
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Yeah, this guys ^ totally right. If you want perfprmance out of your ski and your turn, a binding system lets the ski work more like it was designed. If you're just a lil park monkey .... don't bother. Atomic also has a boot that flexes with the ski .. very nice. PLUS a binding system usually comes with a plate .. which will raise your bot off the snow and extend your lever so youll have more power to carve adn can incline/angulate more without booting out.
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some guy at epicski.com did some tests by comparing how much a ski flexes under weight with and without a boot in the binding. It didn't make much of a difference on long skis if I remember it right, but probably does make a difference on short skis (160cm-170cmish and under I guess)
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^probably right. plus a lot of the binding systems with the flex plate are so much heavier. i think the salomon S912's weigh somethin like 935 grams and the S912 Pe2 (same binding as the S912 but with flex plate) weighs around 400 grams more. just gotta decide if weight or a little more flex is more important.
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A lot of bindings come with lifter plates that reduce the flat spot. The new 'systems' are nice because you can change where your bindings are mounted without redrilling them. The downfall is that your skis are only compatible with one brand of binding. For people who want additional lift for carving there are after-market lifter plates available, but they're hard to find and you can't use skis designed for a 'system'. It would be better if skis had inserts like snowboards in a standardized pattern. There would be less potential for your bindings tearing off and adapters could be used to make any ski/binding combination possible. Plus the adapters could come in different heights or models to give you the amount of lift and flex you want, or even be made of materials with shock abzorbing properties. Companies haven't addressed the canting issue with bindings either. None are adjustable exept by using after-market plastic strips that might not be compatible with 'systems', so the only option that will be available is to buy boots that are adjustable, or have your boots sanded. Most places don't know about canting and those that do will not sand your boots because of safety concerns cooked up by the industry, and lack of equipment. So the industry needs to add more features and options to their 'systems' before they can even say that skis are better.
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