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aussieskier
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just started a christian skiers cult join up if you like, if not have a great day.
if your not christian join have a look if you like what you see stay if not whatever.
its a open cult so dive on in.

peace

https://www.newschoolers.com/web/content/viewcult/action/view/id/4524/
Feb 17 2009 4:46AM
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D*WHITE
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Nah, no offense bro. There are several facets of discipleship. I definitely agree that it is highly effective to connect with an individual on a personal level about the greatness of Christ. Also, putting limits on God can get us into trouble. When we start putting God in a box, it becomes easy to take for granted His power in our lives. Just like you said, one of the best witnessing tools there is would be living a Christ like example. But that doesn't have as much to do with us individually as it has to do with the power of God shining through in our lives. We are in agreement that an internet forum isn't the best way to go about sharing the gospel, but we can also agree that we should be taking advantage of who's side we're on
Feb 19 2009 7:34PM
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D*WHITE
Posts: 76 - Karma: 11
What is it that creates the longing for us to matter, to have meaning and a purpose?
Feb 19 2009 7:36PM
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k-rob
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wimpiness.
Feb 19 2009 7:39PM
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Phill.
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Yeah, I undrestand the need to confront a non-believer and a beliver alike, but just make sure that you arn't pressing the issue. Pressing the issue is the least possible thing we want to do, whether it's about something as serious as religion or just trying to prove your point about your favorite NFL player. If something is forced upon someone else it's in our human nature to automatically go against it, and that is the exact opposite of what we want to do. I'm not saying you are, but just be careful not to start forcing Christianity on someone else, cause it will only lead to them disgracing God even more. I used to force things, not just Christianity, on people all of the time. After seeng that they only got mad, I just simply help them with any decisions or what not they are going through, and in time God will hopefully show them the way.
Feb 19 2009 7:40PM
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Phill.
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True, we don't want to box God in. We just need to be sure are not totally offending people. I agree we need to use every opportunity we can to witness to others, but arguing with them about whether sense is something God created is to deep of a subject to discuss on a site full of non-believers. First things first, they need to accept that God created us, and if they cannot do that than there will always be a void that wont be filled by arguing. Sorry if this is not making any sense...
Feb 19 2009 7:47PM
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D*WHITE
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Hmmm. So what is it that generally makes good = right and evil = wrong?
Feb 19 2009 7:48PM
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Bumblesteeze
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Exactly.
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Feb 19 2009 7:48PM
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k-rob
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as far as i'm concerned, nothing, because man invented right and wrong as well.
Feb 19 2009 7:54PM
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[MEGAMO]
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the easy way out. they couldn't explain something, so god did it. something bad happened, god did it. they felt just plain lonely. oh, god is here, no worries.
Feb 19 2009 7:59PM
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Ben.
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precisely. man realized oh shit, killing people isnt a great idea, so killing people is wrong. as time progresses, we realize things we previously thought were right, were wrong (see slavery).
Feb 19 2009 8:03PM
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D*WHITE
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Did man 'invent' your conscience?
Feb 19 2009 8:04PM
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Ben.
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are you fucking serious? this is just idiocy. im sorry if that offends you but seriously. you need jesus in order to feel like you have a purpose? really? honestly?
Feb 19 2009 8:04PM
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k-rob
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and despite all of these rules we have put in place to try and protect us from each other, homo sapiens is STILL the only species that kills it's own for no reason at all.
Feb 19 2009 8:05PM
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[~_~]
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bahaha D*WHITE is getting raped.
Feb 19 2009 8:06PM
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k-rob
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i don't have a conscience. i do have a survival instinct. unfortunately for me, having been born in this time period, the only way for me to continue surviving is by following everyone else's conscience. so i survive. i do not see the things i do as right or wrong, i simply do the things that i am allowed to do, and don't do the things that i am not allowed to do.
Feb 19 2009 8:08PM
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D*WHITE
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The argument is:

  1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
  2. The universe began to exist.
  3. Therefore, the universe has a cause
Jesus is that cause.
Feb 19 2009 8:15PM
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D*WHITE
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What are you surviving for?
Feb 19 2009 8:20PM
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SKETCHY_D
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man never thought killing was wrong in the old testament the ten commandments was what told us that it was wrong, before we had law
Feb 19 2009 8:25PM
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SKETCHY_D
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why do you even attempt to survive if you think your life its going to end one day, whats your reasoning?
Feb 19 2009 8:27PM
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k-rob
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1. if i decided not to, nobody would let me
2. my natural instincts tell me to reproduce
3. i have not yet reproduced
4. when i find a mate who i want to reproduce with, and who will let me reproduce with her, and when society deems it acceptable for me to reproduce (again, survival), i will reproduce and care for my offspring until i die.
Feb 19 2009 8:27PM
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SKETCHY_D
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no ones getting raped here its a discusion!
Feb 19 2009 8:32PM
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k-rob
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what are you trying to ask me? do you not think that your life is going to end as well?
Feb 19 2009 8:34PM
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[~_~]
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If by discussion you mean back asswards logic!
Feb 19 2009 8:35PM
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bemmis
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Matthew 5:39-46
39 But I tell you, don’t resist him who is evil; but whoever strikes you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also.
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.’
44 But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you,
45 that you may be children of your Father who is in heaven.

HIPOCRACY
Feb 19 2009 9:04PM
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Ben.
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there were people before the 10 commandments "happened" who thought it was wrong. now granted, thanks to the wonderful lack of historical evidence that the 10 commandments happened, we can base it off of what we have seen in egyptian writing etc.

however there are recorded civilizations who we can hazard to guess believed that killing, at least in the sense of murder, was wrong.
Feb 19 2009 9:12PM
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D*WHITE
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This sounds much like the life of an animal. Are we not greater than they?
Feb 19 2009 9:14PM
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Ben.
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no
Feb 19 2009 9:14PM
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SKETCHY_D
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alright they might of thought it was wrong but they didnt care cause they thought there were no consequences, The ten commandments were a base of laws to follow when there were none at the time, there is no true stating of when the heiroglyphics were written and besides you dont even know laws were written on them
Feb 19 2009 9:20PM
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D*WHITE
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Don't our thoughts, feelings and ability to reason set us apart from them?
Feb 19 2009 9:20PM
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SKETCHY_D
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Do you have a reasoning behind that?
Feb 19 2009 9:21PM
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Ben.
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hahahahahahaha

no. there were laws before the 10 commandments dude.... and they cared
Feb 19 2009 9:23PM
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Ben.
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i would say it is quite evident that other animals have thoughts and feelings as well. also the ability to reason, to a degree.
Feb 19 2009 9:24PM
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SKETCHY_D
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I do sin like every human being i am not perfect, just because you think every chrisian has to be perfect all the time and if they do slip up there not true to there religion, that is why jesus died for our sins so we can be forgiven, cause he knows all man are sinners, and last night even though i was angry t would he said i prayed that god would work in his life and reveal his true power and love to him. And that one day he may also walk w/ the faith
Feb 19 2009 9:25PM
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k-rob
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nothing higher than me has told me so.
Feb 19 2009 9:26PM
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SKETCHY_D
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i might be wrong honestly, but you have no proof to back that up and if you do show me please
Feb 19 2009 9:27PM
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Ben.
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The Laws of Hammurabi are the longest and best organized of the law collections that survive from ancient Mesopotamia. King Hammurabi, who ruled from 1792-1750 B.C., had the laws inscribed on stone stelae.


Now, from what i can best figure out. The 10 commandments came a few hundred years after that. Granted unfortunately, these people werent terribly good at documenting themselves.
Feb 19 2009 9:32PM
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SKETCHY_D
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aight i can see that im not arguing that, i dont know much about tht long ago and yes people were not the best at documenting themselves back of the time Hammurabi, but that was in that time the laws could have been totally different we dont know if it said killing/murdering is bad
Feb 19 2009 9:36PM
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Ben.
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ill give you that history is sketchy back then, which is why im not presenting it as cold hard evidence. we basically fill in the blanks. but from what we can understand, it looks like they had basic laws. one can ASSUME (again, i will admit its assumption, this is ancient, ancient history) that murder would be one of the first things they would get on. also there has been some record of sumerian law predating even hammurabi, but noone knows what it says lol
Feb 19 2009 9:41PM
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D*WHITE
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What is this degree you speak of?
Feb 19 2009 9:42PM
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Ben.
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animals figure out how to get inside shit to eat food. sure they dont reason on the level that we do, but we got lucky on the evolutionary ladder. perhaps too far evolved.
Feb 19 2009 9:45PM
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SKETCHY_D
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yes so theres no positive about the laws back then, im just saying that i think the ten commandments were the first most basic laws, that were easily translated, and most precisely followed at the time, I feel they were tthe foundation of what how christians try to prevent themselves from sin, its a guideline
Feb 19 2009 9:46PM
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Ben.
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we are almost POSITIVE there were laws. we just arent sure what they were.
Feb 19 2009 9:47PM
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SKETCHY_D
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yea, i agree with you on that, just saying the ten commadments were the first WELL known laws, and what else i said in my last statement, im geussing if you asked eople hwta they thought were the first laws made, 9/10 would say ten commndments, just what i think would happen
Feb 19 2009 9:54PM
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TheButterHashira
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I was happy when I stopped being a christian because I would not have associate myself with all the bigoted assholes. Now as a non-christian I feel like I am still associated with ass holes, just on the other side. I am just going to call myself a deist/pantheist because my guess is as good as anybodies and I can't think of any deists or pantheists(other than robespierre, and he doesn't count if you look into it) are such assholes.
Feb 19 2009 9:56PM
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Ben.
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thats not really an argument though. there are lots of things that arent well known, but have clearly happened....
Feb 19 2009 9:58PM
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D*WHITE
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How then, if we can be compared so closely with animals, did humans end up becoming the dominant life form on earth?

By now I'm sure you're aware that my answer is God, as described in the Bible.  Momentarily leaving God aside ... human intelligence, which eventually resulted in our ability to communicate across space and time advanced knowledge as never before seen, and allowed us to dominate Earth.  Some liberal religious thinkers interpret Adam in that way.  Science has demonstrated that humans evolved on earth, but at some point in time, our "intelligence" advanced to such a point that we were able to communicate in a more profound way.  Somebody first had this ability.  Taken as a metaphor, Adam represents the point in time when human evolution was reached so that humans were set apart from other creatures.  Bringing God back into the discussion, you can think of that time as when we became God's children.  There are many different opinions about what that point is and when we reached it.  Some may believe we're not inherently different than other animals.  But I would disagree.  Humans are special.  Even if that "specialness" at times creates atrocities.  That is the "curse" of eating from the tree of knowledge.
Feb 19 2009 10:04PM
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[~_~]
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You really believe we're the dominant life form?
Feb 19 2009 10:08PM
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Ben.
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special? were just the currently dominant life form, and at some point nature will wipe us out. dinosaurs, got too dominant for earth to sustain them. in turn, nature erased them. its an endless cycle.
Feb 19 2009 10:09PM
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SKETCHY_D
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hahaha You really think that animals are as equal as us
Feb 19 2009 10:12PM
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D*WHITE
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Please, correct me.
Feb 19 2009 10:13PM
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