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Help on 270's out of rails

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natirider10
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i can get the rail but i cant seem to get the rotation
Feb 15 2009 4:21PM
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RRhighrider
Posts: 2140 - Karma: 1,124
as i come to the end of the rail i start to spin before i am off.  so that way your rotation is already started.  before when i waited until i was all the way off to spin i had a hard time making oit all the way around.  i hope that helps
Feb 15 2009 4:29PM
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skiP.E.I.
Posts: 7821 - Karma: 21,850
^what he said will help, also pop off the rail. Try to spot your landing over your shoulder. Frontside 270 out is easier than backside
Feb 15 2009 4:45PM
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lemonsteeze
Posts: 49 - Karma: 11
yeah i have the same problem someone told me fat kickers help ike 5 feet wide. but idk i cant seem to get it either. but good luck dude
Feb 15 2009 4:57PM
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doitbig
Posts: 4818 - Karma: 315
sometimes i sisor my skis a bit on the rail in the direction of the spin. this helps when you need an extra push for 450's and up.
Feb 15 2009 5:10PM
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troublemaker3
Posts: 1954 - Karma: 225

while on the rail turn your shoulders the direction you want to spin off and pop a 180 off the rail , your legs will follow. its actually pretty simple once you learn them. its a lot easier on rials than on a box as well........good luck

Feb 15 2009 6:56PM
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natirider10
Posts: 296 - Karma: 16
ok thanks
Feb 16 2009 1:31AM
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Yung_Gnarley
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what's the difference??
Feb 16 2009 1:39AM
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drumbumocdp
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front side is when you spin out of the rail looking down the hill and come around to  landing switch. BS is when you spin to face up the hill and then come around to land forward.i think. for me back side is easier.

 how ever. when i learned how to 270, i got on the rail and wasn't even planning on doing it. it just happened. so i think you are letting it get to your head. just get really comfortable on one rail and do it. it will come.
Feb 16 2009 8:34AM
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Sewardo
Posts: 1404 - Karma: 29
if you spin a frontside 270 i find its pretty easy if you lean your front ski back on the rail and almost push off the side of the rail plus all of the shit mentioned above me in previous posts^^^
Feb 16 2009 8:54AM
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pmw
Posts: 5760 - Karma: 831
didnt read other posts:

front side: flat rail, at the end of the rail, dig your leading foot's edge into the rail, and spin off.


back side: flat rail, towards the end, start to look over your back shoulder. If you do that, then it automatically sets you into a switch landing, so then at the and of the rail, pop off and really commit to it. keep looking over your shoulder and look for that landing. its really just spinning past that 90/switch off and then you should be golden.

good luck
Feb 16 2009 9:35AM
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IceCreamer
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backside is spinning to the right, you would be landing switch and its most likely unnatural
Feb 16 2009 10:02AM
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Sewardo
Posts: 1404 - Karma: 29
just like what i said pretty much but in wayyy better wording lol
Feb 16 2009 10:02AM
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pmw
Posts: 5760 - Karma: 831
haha like i said, didnt read the other posts but i was fialry sure it would have been already said
Feb 16 2009 10:20AM
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50in07
Posts: 3070 - Karma: 1,471
Grip the rail by scizzoring the rail and it should come real easily

Feb 16 2009 11:35AM
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DutchhGutss
Posts: 896 - Karma: 124
take your leading foot(the foot that slides the rail first) and either tilt it back which will help you start your rotation forward for a front side spin, or tilt it forward which should help on blindsides.
Feb 16 2009 10:09PM
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Sewardo
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hah yah its good you posted it tho, deff was better than my post for it, now i know how to spin a back 270 off easier!
Feb 17 2009 10:39PM
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Alex_G
Posts: 11902 - Karma: 1,019
be patient with it and wait till you are at the end of the rail, and grip with your front foot then start spinning with your upper body and pop off the rail not super hard but enough to get you a little bit of air to get it around and your upper body will follow your lower body.
Feb 17 2009 11:41PM
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AALT
Posts: 1775 - Karma: 60
sissor me timbers!
Feb 17 2009 11:59PM
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doitbig
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we're sisssssoringggg uhhhhh
Feb 18 2009 9:23AM
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doritos
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negative. backside means that after the first 90 degres you'd be facing up the hill, frontside means that after the first 90 degrees you'd be facing down the hill. your tips go over the rail in a BS 270, your tails in a FS 270. i dont know why, but FS 270s are easier for me as well, even though i like BS switch ups much more.
Feb 18 2009 9:33AM
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S.Anderson
Posts: 369 - Karma: 18
and dig your edge in so you can grip and pop
Feb 18 2009 12:09PM
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YetitheWookie
Posts: 95 - Karma: 70
Jea bro, like he said.  When you get to the end of the rail, just use your head and shoulders to start looking in the direction you want to spin, use your knees and 'pop' as your feet would begin to turn and fall off the rail.  Just keep looking till you spot your landing or you have gone as far as you want.

For bigger spins out than 270s check out the saga edit and watch how Brogan spins out.  He uses his arms, but has it on lock and looks legit as fuck.

Hope that helps b-r-o go slay it.
Feb 18 2009 12:25PM
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r5tommy
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when you are at the end of the rail, twist your upper torso and lift your arms to the sky. The sun gods, (Apollo, the norse sun god Freyr, the greek Helios, the Inca'n Inti, West African Liza, and finally of course Ra from way over in Egypt) will force a solar eclipse upon the specific area you are skiing in, so that a.) no one will ever know if you actually did it and b.) you can come right back to newschoolers and tell everybody you did it. Case closed!
Feb 18 2009 12:34PM
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Craig114
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sizor it up! then just you look super steezy too because you dont look like your putting any effort into it. also when i was teaching my bro i had him watch the tom wallisch POV video so he could see how it looked from his view.

Feb 18 2009 12:58PM
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srtmc5430
Posts: 48 - Karma: 16
what the guy above me said...
Feb 18 2009 2:28PM
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nikkee
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try get a little lock to the rail, and then just jump and spin, but dont do it too early
Feb 18 2009 2:33PM
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Bdogg
Posts: 139 - Karma: 30
When you get to the end of the rail pop and try to push off the rail with the toe of your back foot, itll help you with the spin as well as looking over your shoulder
good luck
Feb 18 2009 3:05PM
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B.bowzz
Posts: 659 - Karma: 211
wait till your at the end of the rail dont do it to early and i know it sounds weird but kind of popping off the rail can help and front side for most people i would say is easier when first learning
Feb 18 2009 3:20PM
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potatoes.
Posts: 479 - Karma: 68

watch schweitzer jib jam. keep tryin you'll get it. word.

Feb 18 2009 3:50PM
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ButteredToast.
Posts: 6459 - Karma: 2,570
set it with your head first, then pop and spin. Dont look down the hill for your landing, dont stop looking uphill until you see the rail then stomp it.
Feb 18 2009 4:01PM
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XxSkiAddictxX
Posts: 36 - Karma: 11
The first thing you gotta do is get to know the rail ur gonna do it on once it is as easy as your sister to do hit it and dig your edge in a little at the end to get grip then just spin
Feb 18 2009 4:06PM
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Hairmetaler
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SCISSOR IT!!!!
Feb 18 2009 4:25PM
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