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Good REALLY white rappers?

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steezebeast
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my friend and i were having a debate on whether hip hop is a genre run by a black power movement

i believe that there are some really good rappers out there like aesop rock and immortal technique, slug, etc. who are good. but even so they dont really sound that white. are there any good ones that are serious that sound like a white dude?
Feb 9 2009 6:50PM
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SteezyOhio
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APATHY! best white raper if not a great rapper in general
Beastie Boys- original
Dante Castro- NS artist
Shwayze- saw them live
Moby or Beck- depends what you consider rap

depends on what you consider rap

first 3 are legit tho
check it
pbskl.blogspot.com -free songs and shit
Feb 10 2009 3:34PM
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(fujative)
Posts: 332 - Karma: 14
totally meant buck 65.. haven't listened to him in years but he was very creative i remember... and DZK what? no one mentioned DZK??
Feb 10 2009 5:53PM
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Slinger1x1
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i love sweatshop, completely forgot about them too
Feb 10 2009 6:03PM
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Dosh
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not everyone likes MN hip-hop. i for one cannot stand any of it. it's annoying because they know they have an extensive vocabulary and are just flaunting it for no reason. the word that comes to mind is pretentious. sure there's a niche for that but a lot of those kids are pretentious as well. in reality they are probably pretty damn vapid and just like to feel "smart" hearing that stuff. i would venture to guess you all like reading Kerouac too haha b/c hes like such an experimental writer. not saying this is you, Drew. it's just what i gather as a whole.
Feb 10 2009 6:21PM
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SirFryanator
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It's not just midwest hip-hop. most good hip-hop artists have an extensive vocab and they use it well. A lot of seattle artists do the same thing, and they are NOT pretentious whatsoever. I'd rather have a rapper sound smart than sound like a total dumbass like the vast majority.
Feb 10 2009 6:24PM
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Dosh
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word and i'm not a lil wayne advocate or anything to that effect. i've heard both sides of it though and used to be so into anticon and def jux artists and now that just does not do it for me. i mean what do you think of early-mid 90s east coast sound? very few of them used overly latinate diction and i guess that's my preference. the whole alternative movement is just so different. i do realize that a lot of people enjoy that to the classics though. none of the alternative stuff even came around until after Company Flow though which was 97'.
Feb 10 2009 6:31PM
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ThaLorax
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hahahaha.... i get it















vapid
Feb 10 2009 7:31PM
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assface
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son real
sweatshop union
swollen members
classified
la coka nostra
jedi mind tricks
army of the pharoahs
snow goons
Feb 10 2009 7:40PM
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987321654hgfd
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Army of the Pharaohs is a group of 10 rappers which the majority are black. However as i already said Apathy is white, Esoteric is White and Vinnie Paz is white.
Feb 10 2009 9:28PM
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Pat_MURRAY
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hands down asher roth and mac lethal kill it, mac lethal is kinda cut throat, like i dotn give a fuck about life, and asher roth has this amazing flow, way better than eminem you cant even compare him to eminem

Feb 10 2009 9:48PM
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SirFryanator
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better flow than eminem?
for some songs, it's hard for anyone to compete.
Feb 10 2009 9:51PM
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Pat_MURRAY
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eminem has a terrible flow, hes either yellnig into the mic, or crying over his daughter, he has good lyrics but not a good flow, so yeah asher roth deff has a better flow than eminem
Feb 10 2009 10:03PM
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Thenowhereman42
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dude Eminem sucks bro sorry no one told you
Feb 10 2009 11:51PM
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Dub_Digital
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sage francis
Feb 11 2009 12:41AM
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sowstochd
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foreign beggars
aesop rock
n-dubz
Feb 11 2009 12:49AM
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-HCG-
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Will Smith????
Feb 11 2009 1:03AM
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SirFryanator
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Listen to his older stuff. I agree, his new stuff sucks mostly.
Feb 11 2009 1:03AM
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Dosh
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In response to Drew,

i consider myself a well-read person i just find that style excessive. it's not what i personally want to hear anymore in my music. a lot of the time i just detect a condescending vibe that bothers me in the music, but would not even begin to phase me if it was a book i was reading. what other artists of the genre do you enjoy though? i am curious b/c a lot the rhymesayers/doomtree fans that i have heard from only talk about those artists as though nothing else has or ever will exist. and i know i always bring it up b/c i have an affinity for the period, but what about all the great music coming out between 1993-97? those artists were not overly ornate.
Feb 11 2009 1:41AM
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Dosh
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and after listening to that POS song, i would say that is not my thing. i could never get down with that production b/c i like smooth melodic stuff. that just comes off abrasive to me. and it sounds as if POS is just talking at me. i guess we have different tastes in music is all.
Feb 11 2009 1:45AM
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ShredtillURdead
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o shit no ones mentioned the microphone assassin himself, J to the R-O-C

J-Roc!!!!!!
Feb 11 2009 1:46AM
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Dosh
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hahahahaha. how the fuck could i forget J-Roc?
Feb 11 2009 1:48AM
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hael
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yeah I love Blue Scholars. doesn't Sabizi do beats for Common Market too?
Feb 11 2009 2:19AM
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ShredtillURdead
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troof
Feb 11 2009 2:21AM
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freezed
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hahah I know. he raps with doom on some stuff too (check hot guacamole from the mm..leftovers album, it's amazing).

he is awesome.
Feb 11 2009 3:56AM
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860Bluntz
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what the fuck are you talking about?
Feb 11 2009 10:33AM
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Sewardo
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worddd
Feb 11 2009 10:48AM
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Dosh
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but dude...that's only the tip of the iceberg. 100s of other artists released albums during that time and very few of them sucked. that's like me saying, oh alternative rap sucks b/c atmosphere does not do it for me. i was into this stuff for long enough to have heard quite a bit of it and honestly can say it's not my thing. maybe you have listened to a lot of the music from the mids 90s and still feel the same way, but you would have to have listened to so many artists during that period. it was the most prosperous time during hip hop haha. this is a battle between two completely different periods. maybe we can't even compare them. maybe its not worth it.
Feb 11 2009 12:48PM
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Pat_MURRAY
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we all forgot matisyahu, hes so ill
Feb 11 2009 8:36PM
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Slinger1x1
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i donno, you gotta draw the line between rap and reggae. I mean i love Matisyahu and hes reppin me as a jew, but i wouldn't call him a rapper
Feb 11 2009 8:44PM
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NESblowjob
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beastie boys
Feb 11 2009 8:55PM
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Sufferboy
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Feb 11 2009 9:00PM
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Sewardo
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im suburban but i listen to whatever the fuck i want, my parents have never edited my playlists and said i couldnt buy a cd.
Feb 11 2009 11:22PM
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freeze_pooter
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are you ready for this ns? wait...hold on.............





JOAQUIN PHOENIX!!!!!!1111!!!11one!!11!1


baaaaahahahahahahahah
Feb 12 2009 2:22AM
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MattMcGinnis
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Shiest D!
Feb 12 2009 2:52AM
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Austeeze
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yes! add Drapht as well. of course there are several non english as well...
Feb 12 2009 9:33AM
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skitofo7
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https://newschoolers.com/web/forums/readthread/thread_id/542675/

I just found this guy, but it looks like he puts white rappers to shame.
May 31 2010 4:20AM
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skitofo7
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like shame as in he is better than them not like man he makes white rappers look bad!
May 31 2010 4:22AM
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Martin-moe
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Looptroop
Eminem
Classified
Apathy
Brother Ali
Tonedeff
Aesop Rock
Sage Francis
Atmosphere
The Beastie boys
Cypress Hill
Cage
The streets
The Grouch
 
May 31 2010 4:46AM
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nickyp
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May 31 2010 5:40AM
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ThaLorax
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Brother Ali is not white, he is a black albino.

The Grouch is not white, he's half latino.

Cypress hill is latino as well.
May 31 2010 5:47AM
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Plind
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Purkwa
May 31 2010 6:17AM
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JSLV
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Average homeboy
May 31 2010 6:22AM
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nickyp
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Ill rhyme right there



MuchoMango is the best white rapper
May 31 2010 6:32AM
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Barf.
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SonReal has his shit on point. Check him out.
May 31 2010 12:45PM
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Travapple.
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Macklemore anyone?
May 31 2010 12:51PM
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PadDONski
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Blazin Hazen Yes. Best ever no question.
May 31 2010 1:03PM
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Nathn
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Grieves
Eyedea
Sam Adams (I like him)
Slug
Cecil Otter
Mac Lethal
Eminem
Brother Ali
Cool Calm Pete (Asian)

May 31 2010 1:08PM
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95959
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That's actually not true. He grew up around black people and apparently feels more like one of them, but both his parents were white.
May 31 2010 1:45PM
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