talk about reminisence......toxic grabs...whatever happened to them? I think there are a few possibilities. 1) Has a toxic grab been reduced to the cheesyness of the daffy or spread eagle. 2) could it just be that it is not cool to call a tailgrab 'toxic' anymore? 3) Maybe its just that this sport is so full of 2 year freesking 'veterans' that this term was just looked over when they were studying their 'newschool' dictionary. just a rant. Vive le Candide