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4REEL Crew Slowmotion edit 60 fps

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4ReeL_
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https://newschoolers.com/web/content/videos/id/240944/search_string/4reel+media/
Feb 3 2009 1:54PM
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4ReeL_
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https://newschoolers.com/web/content/videos/id/240944/search_string/4reel+media/
Feb 3 2009 1:55PM
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eheath
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Cool, you know how to overcrank. Now do something cool with it, smoking shots are played.
Feb 3 2009 3:44PM
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heyyy, way to be a dick.

Feb 3 2009 3:58PM
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4ReeL_
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just wait eheath........just wait.
Feb 3 2009 4:46PM
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eheath
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I look forward to something great.
Feb 3 2009 4:49PM
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4ReeL_
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you will.........shortly
Feb 3 2009 6:17PM
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dowalibeast
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for my threads
Feb 3 2009 7:21PM
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jack.whelan
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threadles.

as much of a pen1s eheath seems to be, he also seems to right more often than not. i wanna see what happens here!
Feb 8 2009 4:13AM
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h_bar
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that sounded like a threath, way to go!!

buy full tilts
Feb 8 2009 9:57AM
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C0RN
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slomo edit from Jake Flood on Vimeo.



I just learned to overcrank too!
Feb 8 2009 12:31PM
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4ReeL_
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nope no threat just wait until you see what is to come
Feb 8 2009 4:47PM
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hartig
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..how do you overcrank?
Feb 8 2009 8:38PM
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eheath
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Its a process of variable frame rates. And since HVX/HPX can shoot 60p you can make it so that the 1 second 60fps gets translated into 2 seconds of 30fps making it 1/2 of the normal speed, its a technique taken from shooting film.
Feb 8 2009 8:48PM
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ChronicLines
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Let's talk about the 100 something fps the LG Dare can shoot.
Feb 8 2009 8:48PM
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hartig
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ahh i see, i was confused because steezemonkey said he found out how to overcrank to.. but he apparently didnt if he was using a hv30 (doesnt have 60p) then i cant do it on my hv20.
Feb 8 2009 8:58PM
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C0RN
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ooooo nvm overcranking was different than i thought it was
Feb 8 2009 9:45PM
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4ReeL_
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there really is no "Learning" how to "overcrank"
Feb 9 2009 2:29AM
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eheath
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Well, you have to learn how to do it, but its like learning out to turn on a light.
Feb 9 2009 2:52AM
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4ReeL_
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exactly haha (Apple + J)
Feb 9 2009 12:19PM
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dowalibeast
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yeah this isn't actually an example of over cranking. overcranking is done in the camera, whereas this was done in final cut by just playing each frame twice. so really all this is is a lesson in speed control, not over cranking.
Feb 9 2009 3:00PM
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eheath
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Oh, so you don't overcrank you just shoot 60p and slow it down.
Feb 9 2009 3:38PM
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dowalibeast
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*30p and slow it down.
Feb 9 2009 4:13PM
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eheath
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Um, no. He's claiming 60p according to his title.
Feb 9 2009 4:37PM
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Alkyy
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if you did that then it would look choppy set your fps to 15 and see what happens when someone just walks infront of the lense, it looks like shit. 

eheath may sound like a dick, but i have yet to read a post of his that isnt on point and correct...

Kinda off topic but does anyone know about the fx7s 5second(i think) slowmo burst feature.

Feb 9 2009 5:23PM
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dowalibeast
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so are you guys saying that he shot 60p and slowed it down?
Feb 9 2009 7:17PM
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eheath
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That is what im getting from it right now.
Feb 9 2009 7:21PM
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1080ski
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im waiting for the video to download, but i thought i saw somebody say that it was shot on a hv30. if this is true, maybe this is what the guy did. if not, im going to explain it anyways in hopes that somebody knows what it is called when you do this.

if you shoot in 60i, then you can take each 1/2 frame (every other line, i think that you refer to this as a field) and make it its own frame, so you will be playing in 30p with 1/2 the resolution at 1/2 the speed. so... what is this called?
Feb 9 2009 8:53PM
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1080ski
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^forgot to add that if you play it full speed, then it would be 60 p. thats why i made the post...
Feb 9 2009 8:54PM
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eheath
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Well if he's using a hv30 then that slow motion came out very nice. I'm not familiar with making 60i into 60p, i know you can make 60i into 30p, but turning 60i into 60p would require the use of a program that generates frames for you, like twixor. I was under the impression 4reel shot with hvx though, maybe im wrong.
Feb 9 2009 9:02PM
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C0RN
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yea i made 60i to 24p in after effects
Feb 9 2009 9:34PM
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4ReeL_
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you are correct.

the camera is an HVX and shoots 60p
Feb 10 2009 8:12PM
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EmbraceTaMartian
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Im not too sure if you can take interlaced footage and make it progressive. It seems if you take half a frame (when it is interlaced footage) it will be a composite of the last frame and the next frame. Im not totally sure but that sounds right to me.
Feb 10 2009 9:10PM
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4ReeL_
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interlaced has to do with the horizontal lines in video

With progressive scan, an image is captured, transmitted and displayed in a path similar to text on a page: line by line, from top to bottom.

The interlaced scan pattern in a CRT (cathode ray tube) display completes such a scan too, but only for every second line. This is carried out from the top left corner to the bottom right corner of a CRT display. This process is repeated again, only this time starting at the second row, in order to fill in those particular gaps left behind while performing the first progressive scan on alternate rows only.

Such scan of every second line is called interlacing. A field is an image that contains only half of the lines needed to make a complete picture. The afterglow of the phosphor of CRTs, in combination with the persistence of vision results in two fields being perceived as a continuous image which allows the viewing of full horizontal detail with half the bandwidth that would be required for a full progressive scan while maintaining the necessary CRT refresh rate to prevent flicker.

Only CRTs can display interlaced video directly – other display technologies require some form of deinterlacing.

Feb 10 2009 9:44PM
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dowalibeast
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wikipedia. nice.
Feb 10 2009 10:32PM
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4ReeL_
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yup I didnt feel like explaining it
Feb 11 2009 11:03AM
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eheath
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Example of a 60/30p overcrank.

Creighton chopped and screwed at 60/30p from Evan Heath on Vimeo.
Feb 11 2009 1:07PM
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1080ski
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well if you do it that way then yes. the way i was explaining would take every other line and 1/2 the resolution, making every other line become every line. so that would give you a full frame, not a mix of 2. you do it with the other field and you will get another full frame, resulting in a 60 p video at 1/2 the resolution.
Feb 11 2009 6:12PM
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