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Winter X Snowboard Pipe = no progression

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jesseFS523
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Snowboard pipe this year showed no progression in the sport. it was lame. Back to back 1080's were last year. White even through a cab 1260 last year. This sport is slowly going downhill (no pun intended) props to travis rice though for sure.
Jan 26 2009 2:58PM
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Klick_2_klaim
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oh sure there is, they progressed so hard the skiers are doing 12s now. woohoo!
Jan 26 2009 3:01PM
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aculbs
Posts: 226 - Karma: 12
agreed. skiers are huckin doubles now and all we see out of snowboarders is longer discusting red hair than last year
Jan 26 2009 3:07PM
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Squid.
Posts: 1904 - Karma: 23
I thought snowboard superpipe was kinda boring this year
Jan 26 2009 3:16PM
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JCsteezy
Posts: 758 - Karma: 211
ha ya but snowboarding isnt looking anydifferent than last year skiing is getting more and more technical each year
Jan 26 2009 3:17PM
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Sashquach
Posts: 105 - Karma: 112
thats cause snowboarding actually is based more on style
rather than how big they go or how many spins and flips they do
i think skiing is progressing in the wrong way for sure with only kids wining slope and shit
who do double flips fockin gay as fock rather than tanking into account the mad steeze some kids have

Jan 26 2009 3:25PM
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ShadyHillGroup
Posts: 2881 - Karma: 213
IMO those hucked doubles aren't really progression, and you also have to take into account how long snowboarding has been around compared to freeskiing, we are in what seems to be the peak of our progression as a sport while snowboarding has begun to slow down a little
Jan 26 2009 3:26PM
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BennyV
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i try to explain this all the time to my snowboarder friends
Jan 26 2009 3:31PM
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Loach
Posts: 139 - Karma: 10
Is there no snowboard progression in the pipe, or are you just not as in tune with snowboard trick progression as you are skiing? For example a snowboarder, Mike Michalchuck, was doing doubles in pipe contests over 10 years ago. So a snowboarder watching skiers do doubles, would most likely say them same thing about skiing that you are saying about snowboarding.

Just some food for thought.
Jan 26 2009 3:41PM
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colin13
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thats a load of bullshit. there is the same emphasis on style in skiing as there is in snowboarding. just by plain physics skiers can go higher and so they're throwing bigger runs. and double flips are the future, nothing ever looks good in the early stages
Jan 26 2009 3:48PM
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AngryFromBend
Posts: 779 - Karma: 9
hucked? i don't know what you were watching but some of those doubles looked super smooth. take tanner's for instance.
Jan 26 2009 3:53PM
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ShadyHillGroup
Posts: 2881 - Karma: 213
i guess i can not speak of the xgames ski pipe considering i missed it, but for the most part the doubles ive seen in pipe have been hucked and ungrabbed, either way they are ugly
Jan 26 2009 3:59PM
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Jacuse
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i'm going to disagree with this statement. most of the doubles i saw looked super smooth especially dorey's, they definetley aren't hucked. In a few years those doubles are going to look even more steezy.


the only progression i've seen in winter x snowboard pipe is style, but trick wise it hasn't really changed over the past few years.
Jan 26 2009 4:05PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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Some did strait airs... Nuff said
Jan 26 2009 4:07PM
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Scott~
Posts: 2551 - Karma: 49
If I remember correctly there was only 1 guy going huge on his last hits. Which was really weird because his hits got bigger and bigger as his run went on. Definitely sick, but overall snowboarders were still not able to boost as high as skiers~
Jan 26 2009 4:12PM
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Keyjibbs
Posts: 1542 - Karma: 96
If your talking about Elijah Teter's HUGE and I do mean huge switch method. That thing was about 16 feet out and switch. I will give props where props are due and that is one trick I can appreciate.
Jan 26 2009 4:45PM
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Casey
Posts: 7849 - Karma: 24,324
ya, didn't see any skiers doing 16 foot fakie to fakie this year, that would be sick though.
Jan 26 2009 4:56PM
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freeskibum82
Posts: 6355 - Karma: 5,055
skiers are way more tech on the rails and our grabs look way better
Jan 26 2009 4:57PM
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Alex_G
Posts: 11902 - Karma: 1,019
pumping switch on a snowboard is a hell of a lot different than switch on skis. skis you are going backwards, snowboards you just have to be good at riding switch and you can boost as high as you can going forward.
Jan 26 2009 4:58PM
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ShredtillURdead
Posts: 2024 - Karma: 93
want to talk about zero progression....think about this....Tony hawk threw the first ever 900 in vert competition in the 1998 summer xgames.  10 years later NO ONE has landed a 1080 in vert comp.  im not saying that spinning more is progression, but fuck, youd think someone would have added another 180 in 10 years.
Jan 26 2009 5:01PM
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Scott~
Posts: 2551 - Karma: 49
Probably because vert skating is dyyyyyying~
Jan 26 2009 5:25PM
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Nico_G
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having red hair is no style, as far as i see shaun white has NO style.  For contests its about style and technical difficulty, skiing is stepping up the tech way more than snowboarding, a 540 first hit is not gonna win a halfpipe competition. And you should learn how to spell.
Jan 27 2009 11:22PM
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broskijib
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? Did you see xavier bertonni's run for the win in superpipe? He had style up his nose so did tanner...dont even talk to me about snowboarding having more style
Jan 27 2009 11:39PM
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mohamid
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are you kidding me?!. watch thats it thats all. Not only is the snowboarding fucking insane everything about the movie is. Knocked out is also a great snowboard movie , not to mention thanks brain. snowboarding in my opinion is progressing just as fast as skiing and is getting way more techy/ inovative. big mountain snowboarding is also getting way sicker with killer lines and bigger cliff drops then years past. I admit the pipe was same old-same old but he big air was sick. there was so much style even when they were spinning 12's.
Jan 27 2009 11:46PM
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garrett.
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so when shaun white fucks up, loses a bunch of speed but still hucks a 10 8 feet out thats style?
Jan 28 2009 12:00AM
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sstricky
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lol ++k
Jan 28 2009 12:05AM
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Caveman.
Posts: 9067 - Karma: 330
I want to see a skier boost a huge zero or fakie 180 then technicality wise we will be getting closer to snowboarders.
Jan 28 2009 12:50AM
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ScuffDUFF
Posts: 2027 - Karma: 143
yup that shit bored me .  most of them washout and fall during their runs alot more then skiers i have noticed
Jan 28 2009 2:00AM
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ski_ENDUB
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It seems that Snowboard pipe isn't so much about progression as it is perfection
Jan 28 2009 2:06AM
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snowboardersrule
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it was snowing. the xgames is about winning, not progression. some new shit still went down. and back to back 10s have been the 'must do' combo since danny kass won the us open with them in 02 (03?). need progression? see teter's massive switch method into his 10s combo, aquirre's stylie switch back rodeo 7, white's large first hit alley-oop back rodeo, and pearce's large tech run.

the phase of progression that skiing pipe is in happened a while back in snowboarding. progression can't always be at %100. ie back to back 10s are still the combo to do.
Jan 28 2009 2:24AM
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Maximumsushi
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Skiing superpipe is at a higher level than snowboarding superpipe. Skiers go bigger, do more technical tricks, do more complex grabs, and in my opinion, have better style. This is the one aspect of both sports that I feel skiing is clearly ahead of snowboarding. I ride about 50% with snowboarders and all of them agree that pipe skiing straight kills pipe snowboarding.

That being said, there are many aspects of snowboarding that are at a higher level than skiing. Snowboarding movies are of a higher quality and in my opinion, more fun to watch. Pony Tale was my favourite movie from last season and That's It, That's All most certainly had the highest production values. Snowboarders still kill skiers in urban riding and that will probably continue well into the future.
Jan 28 2009 8:02AM
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Matty_C
Posts: 2598 - Karma: 236
hate to piss on your bonfire dude but xavier's first hit was a 5...
Jan 28 2009 2:57PM
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Hairmetaler
Posts: 1200 - Karma: 15
all of them fell down and didnt do shit on there first hits
Jan 28 2009 3:43PM
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ale92
Posts: 50 - Karma: 16
we can say that
SKI=BMX
SNOWBOARD=SKATE
for progression
Jan 28 2009 4:07PM
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Nico_G
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was it? could have sworn it was a nine.. i have to watch it again.
Jan 28 2009 4:24PM
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