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Kinda a rant on obama

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Deletedtoday
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ok summary, i dont care for obama but i do not disrespect him seriously and i go to school in a very liberal school.


today after watching the president being sworn in thing, we had a discussion and everyone was like oh hes black omg omg. then someone said that are country is crap and hes the light at the end of a tunnel to change everything for the good. EVERYONE agreed but i said thats bullshit because he hasnt done anything in his previous political position that made everyone change. and i got pretty much verbally raped and called a raciest. So i dont care for obama and i dont hate him he just hasnt changed anything in his previous position.

why are we going bananas over him?


yah i know he might give everyone fulltilt
Jan 20 2009 11:24PM
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garrett.
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freshman senators have so much power...
Jan 20 2009 11:26PM
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doublexl
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i dont get it either. im really indifferent towards obama and hes totally blown outta proportion. most people dont even know why they like him either, (other than, "hes a good spearker", or, "he has a good aura". or something else completely outlandish and made up.)
Jan 20 2009 11:40PM
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skiminnesota
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please tell me you said nothing on the matter of race?

if so, tell them that THEY are acting in a racist capacity, because if your argument has nothing to do with race then you my friend are truly looking past race and judging the man on the content of his caricature on not on the color of his skin.

so the ability of you being able to disagree yet keep race out of it speaks to your ability and your neutrality  on the subject of skin color..

so basically hit them over the head for calling you a racist (as long as you gave them no ammo to shoot you with?)
Jan 20 2009 11:44PM
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SirFryanator
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I think he'll help the USA's image. I don't think he'll help us with our economy, but I do think he will try to get some of the social policies settled (e.g. gay marriage). I hope he gets rid of a lot of the programs that the government doesn't need like he said he would, that is what will help out the USA a LOT.
Jan 20 2009 11:44PM
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canudoa9
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u should learn to take criticism better maybe and possibly realize that there is never going to be a perfect president. i would take shear intellegence and inspiration over any other overwhelming trait in a leader. so if it is his view that u dont like i am not going to argue with you, but honestly he has so far proven himself to be very intellegent and hardworking (Harvard from nothing), and has proven he is inspirational (everyone crying or getting goosebumps when he talks [including myself]). I think that inspiration is the most important thing the US people need right now. we have the resources, but we do not use them to their full potential. he is inspiring and intellegent and in my opinion that will lead to a better United States.
Jan 20 2009 11:46PM
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Deletedtoday
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i said nothing about race i acually tell them to look past the fact that hes black. witch would be the right thing.


i have a feeling they are a ignorrant idiots thought a kid also said that whoever didnt vote for obama hate black and should die
Jan 20 2009 11:47PM
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Deletedtoday
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i kinda think we america see him as a celeb more then a political figure witch is why we like him so much.
Jan 20 2009 11:49PM
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canudoa9
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once again we need inspiration. we can be greater than any other nation without an amazing leader which Obama is also, but he is inspirational, nuff said
Jan 21 2009 12:00AM
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DaewonS
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im gettin so tired of seeing people ranting and complaining about obama. youre not changing anything. whats done is done. cant we just wait it out and see what happens now?
Jan 21 2009 12:04AM
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cfox
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Jan 21 2009 12:05AM
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Deletedtoday
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i agree with you but i am not ranting really i just want to know why the people that like him like him
Jan 21 2009 12:19AM
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Ifeinforsnow
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no one really knows how good of a leader he is yet. Im in complete agreeance (sp) with you that he is extremely intelligent and is inspiring, but its to early to tell how he will do as president. Also I would say the younger demographic 18-24 dont really seem to have very legitimate reasons for being as big of supporters as they are.

Jan 21 2009 12:35AM
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Elijah.
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I asked a girl earlier why she liked Obama so much, and she honestly said these exact words, "Well, he's really attractive." I laughed, because I thought she was joking, but she gave me a confused look. Although I support him, I hate the Obizzle bandwagon.
Jan 21 2009 12:42AM
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[~_~]
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Cool, he's the first black president; who gives a shit. People should be focusing on his policies, not his advertising campaign.

What scares me is how blindly people support him. This is exactly how Hitler got power, and look how that went to his head. I'm not insinuating that this will happen with Obama; it's just...scary. I'm sick of two dimensional logic and favor.
Jan 21 2009 12:49AM
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Ben.
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hahahahaha justin i think you meant character.
Jan 21 2009 12:52AM
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Ben.
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i agree people should be focused on his policies. and if they called the OP racist thats bullshit, and i hope you told them that.

however to say "who gives a shit" i disagree with. 55 years ago black people didnt even go to the same school as white kids. and now we have a black president. it shows that while our country still has a long way to go, we have progressed immensely.
Jan 21 2009 12:55AM
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t_rob
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Its been 13 hours since he has been president.
My life doesn't feel any different. I don't have any desires to kill or praise obama. In my mind, nothing has changed.


Jan 21 2009 1:08AM
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Ben.
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in your mind perhaps. but shit even 10 years ago there is NO way he would have won.
Jan 21 2009 1:23AM
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jsaya_SagStraps
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i think obama will actually do very little to improve our country. however, what he does do is inspire hope in people to change this country for the better. so i think he wont change this country so much as spark americans as a people to make the change we need. so thats good, but really if you think about it theres only so much the president can do, thats why he called the people to action. obama himself even admitted that.
Jan 21 2009 1:24AM
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TannerBalls
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Obama is so hyped, he hasn't done anything.  I hope he's a good president but shit, no one even knows what he's about.  Wow he's black so now EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH HIM WILL BE CALLED A RACIST.

FUCK THAT
Jan 21 2009 1:25AM
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MitchPee
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We as Americans are divided. There is no culture only subculture. There is no sense of national pride. Our generation has never faced a serious war or difficult struggle in which for once we were forced to leave our bubble and pull together in a helping manner to support one another as the citizens of a country. We are lost in our own worlds. Where everyday we may take the subway, bus, etc and walk past thousands of faces that look empty. Our sense of morals resembles that of a bucket filled with holes. Years ago business meant two men shook hands and both benefited from a deal. Now it means tough luck on one party of the deal.

Obama is one man. Voting for this man gives you no reason to think that you have participated in "change". We overlook change every day. People out there demanding better economic policies, yet they are riding unemployment and are perfectly capable of getting a job. There are people complaining about gas prices, yet they are driving vehicles that get 8mpg. CEO's demanding lower taxes, yet they are cutting themselves the biggest bonuses ever recorded in American history. Change is something that needs to be developed within every person. Not just Democrats. Not just Republicans. Change is not easy for it requires sacrifice, something modern Americans are very unfamiliar with. So NSers, if you are lucky enough to have a grandfather or grandmother as I am not, ask them what it was like. Ask them what true hard times were like and they will tell you valuable stories. Stories which we will most likely be telling our grandkids, maybe not to the grave destitution as they had in the 30's but destitute nonetheless. So as you are all calling each other out on who you voted for I ask you to remember one thing: what's done is done. Do not be judgemental and bitter towards the winner and on the other hand don't assume he will be this descendent of impeccable personality because he's not. Just take it for what it's worth and do your best to do what is right for you, but also your fellow countrymen.
Jan 21 2009 1:34AM
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MitchPee
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Knibb high football rules!
Jan 21 2009 1:34AM
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[~_~]
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we are slightly less despicable. cool beans.
Jan 21 2009 1:36AM
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Arabian.
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I think the "Light at the End of the Tunnel" is basically a context meaning an intelligent person capable of connecting with the American populace. The fact that he is black says something about us as Americans - though I think it's incredibly racist to even CONSIDER voting for someone just because they are black. It shouldn't even matter.

I am not impressed with Obama. I HOPE I will be, and I think he is promising. If not, it's not like he could do anything to make  our situation worse beyond Hitlerian agendas or flipping off the Pope. [which would still be badass]

Jan 21 2009 1:55AM
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Ben.
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hahaha so cynical
Jan 21 2009 1:57AM
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whattheshit
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affirmative action tells me i have to like obama
Jan 21 2009 2:37AM
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Nico_G
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People are soo damn unsupportive or their new president its ridiculous. Bush was shit and everyone knows that. Im pretty sure no one can screw up as bad as he did so people should get over it that obama won and support your president.
Jan 21 2009 3:19AM
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smuggsVT
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i dont think that his innauguration should be treated any differently just because he is black.  Sure he is the first black president and that shows progress but just acknowledging the fact that he is "different" from other presidents is racist in itself.  and for the record i dont agree with his views but i respect him for what he has acomplished

Jan 21 2009 11:22AM
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TannerBalls
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plus he's only half black

so when there really is a black president we can all celebrate again for no reason
Jan 21 2009 12:56PM
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ferrinski86
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haha, i laughed so hard when i read this. + karma for being original
Jan 21 2009 12:58PM
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Sufferboy
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Yeah I hope he does a good job and keeps his word

but till then hes just another dude at the white house beggin for change
Jan 21 2009 1:25PM
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P-trees
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Ronald Reagan was perfect. And I agree, this maybe a huge moment in U.S. history but his track record is very limited. He offers this Tremendous amount of change that couldn’t possibly be obtained in 8 years (IF he get re-elected). I think that once all the hype dies off we will get a real idea of what Obama is capable of, if anything.
Jan 21 2009 1:41PM
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Ben.
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LOL
Jan 21 2009 1:44PM
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P-trees
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The man was perfect, he never made one mistake that truly effected the state of our nation.
Jan 21 2009 1:58PM
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Ben.
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he was busy fucking up latin america
Jan 21 2009 2:05PM
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Z_rob
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ya i go to the same school as dr. derek and we are pretty good friends too.

i feel the same way about obama. i didn't choose him as my favorable one to win the election but i give the guy mad respect and he has a lot of balls stepping into a position like this right now.

but i think people need to get over the fact that he is Jesus and he will just wave his hand and everything will be perfect.

everyone will be holding hands singing amazing grace in a field of daisys.
the blind will see again and the deaf will hear.

it just wont happen.
if he follows through with what he says he is gonna do then more power to him.
but its a hell of a lot easier to say im gonna do something than actually doing it.

we'll see by the end of 2009 how great he really is
Jan 21 2009 2:10PM
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kepler.
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I won't even argue with that because I don't know much about Reagan. I'm young (19) and wasn't alive when he was in power. Hey cool I just admitted I wasn't all-knowing on a forum!

But simply for the fact he had a cunt of a wife whose program is still polluting young childrens' minds today with "Just Say No" That alone makes me hate the administration for the ignorance and sheer stupidity that was their policy on drugs.
Jan 21 2009 2:24PM
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Itsbackfliptime
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Harvard from nothing? His mom had a PhD and his dad a masters from Harvard. I would hardly call that nothing.
Jan 21 2009 3:22PM
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P-trees
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Incorrect, he was liberating latin america. Not "fucking it up".

Jan 21 2009 10:46PM
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Soundgarden
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Obama can suck a dick.
Jan 21 2009 10:48PM
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Ben.
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ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Jan 21 2009 11:16PM
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P-trees
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agreed
Jan 22 2009 11:02AM
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michelle
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Yeah, I can't fucking stand that. Everytime I say that I don't know if I like Obama yet or not, people say "ITS BECAUSE HES BLACK, ISNT IT?!"

My response is, "He's only fucking half black"

I'm so sick of everyone throwing in the race card when you disagree with their Obama views, it's so obnoxious and unnecessary


Jan 22 2009 11:08AM
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patrickstar
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fuck you redneck
Jan 22 2009 11:20AM
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Itsbackfliptime
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Didn't he pretty much create the huge national debt? Sure it won the cold war, but he still spent over a trillion dollars to do it.
Jan 22 2009 3:03PM
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[~_~]
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Next time you get arrested for lighting a doobie we'll see who is "perfect."
Jan 22 2009 4:05PM
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sk1er
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the hype is about the hope for change
Jan 22 2009 4:15PM
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IHOP
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Maybe you're classmates were arguing, either knowingly or unknowingly, that Obama's allure is in his symbolism. That is, it doesn't really matter if he makes any real legislative change but the fact that he is a symbol of hope in a time of severe depression can be a powerful tool.

Take for instance the study of economics. Economics is more or less a study in philosophy, you can do a lot of statistical analysis, but what it ultimetley comes down to is predicting how people will mentally react. If Obama can give a majority of people a positive prospects for the future, and they act on this positive hope, it can have significant impact on the economy.

So yeah, it's possible that he may be a "dud" in office in terms of substance and legislation. but the important thing right now is that people see hope and confidence in him, and confidence is one of the main driving factors of economics.

thats my view anyways. And just so you know where i am coming from, i was really close to voting for McCain due to his more comprehensive and clear tax/financial provisions (Obama prior to the election had very vague tax plans).
Jan 22 2009 4:24PM
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Thenowhereman42
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lol you said bananas in an obama thread

He's cliche, mediocre, he hasn't had any amazing original ideas, and he's going to raise cigarette prices.  So fuck him.
Jan 22 2009 4:30PM
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Ben.
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wait... thats a bad thing?
Jan 22 2009 4:34PM
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