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WuTangSteeze
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Speaking on behalf of all the white suburban kids who know what real hip-hop is, FUCK LIL' WAYNE, FUCK T-PAIN, AND FUCK ALL THE GAY ASS RAPPERS THAT DO THAT COMPUTER VOICE SHIT.........YOU KILLED HIP-HOP.....YOUR NOT EVEN CLASSIFIED AS HIP-HOP ANYMORE....SHIT IS POP MUSIC.!

For all the real hip-hop heads...stay true....what's ur fav songs, artists, steez, and coast?
Jan 19 2009 11:48AM
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ThaLorax
Posts: 21083 - Karma: 8,455
Atmosphere is meh but Brother Ali slays

that's my two cents
Jan 25 2009 5:34PM
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doritos
Posts: 7368 - Karma: 53
Slug: Maybe not the most amazing lyricist as far as rhymes go (although he still is consistently much better than Weezy) but as a storyteller he is unmatched. Some of the most meaningful, thought-provoking lyrics in hip hop.

Brother Ali: Animal. Certainly not the best I've ever heard as far as rhymes go but he's right up there, and he has an amazing flow. Also, he has great topics and raps about shit that real.
Jan 25 2009 5:53PM
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ChronicLines
Posts: 951 - Karma: 61
Blizzy B is a lyrical genius.
Jan 25 2009 6:12PM
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namaste
Posts: 69 - Karma: 10
brother ali kills it.
what do you guys know about
masta ace
edo g
jemini
j live

and who said the south was wack.
outkast
goodie mob
cunninglyguists
nappy roots

i think the south puts out some of the most orignal sound.
Jan 25 2009 6:33PM
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Dosh
Posts: 1818 - Karma: 14
disagree about brother ali and slug and most likely always will. i love to hate those guys!
but masta ace is some good shit. check out the album "slaughtahouse"
as far as edo g goes, i know he repped roxbury mass and was a seminal artist from that area, but im not too up on his shit.
jemini is very solid. if you can find it look for his "scar and pain EP" when he recorded under "Jemini The Gifted One". I always was a fan of his work on "Ghetto Pop Life" tracks as well.
and as for j-live your best bet would be "the best part"

and since i am feeling generous here's the Jemini EP:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D2EKGUHI
Jan 25 2009 8:40PM
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doritos
Posts: 7368 - Karma: 53
Have you heard "Lookin' At Me Sideways", "Truth is Here", "Take Me Home", "Self Taught"... I mean how can you hate on those tracks?
Jan 25 2009 8:52PM
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ThaLorax
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dude, that entire album is great. I always get Pedigree stuck in my head.
Jan 25 2009 8:55PM
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Dosh
Posts: 1818 - Karma: 14
not my style at all anymore. don't worry though i enjoy a wide variety of artists. my favorites have to be straight out of the mid 90s east coast gritty hardcore scene. i have a penchant for the heavy hitters like lord finesse, kool g, show and ag, that type of thang.
Jan 25 2009 9:20PM
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Dosh
Posts: 1818 - Karma: 14
and if i am looking for that "prosey" slug style, i will pick up a book for a far more articulate and enjoyable read. he does nothing but annoy me. that's just my opinion though. i know i render a lot of kids incredulous on here when i speak of slug in such a blasphemous manner haha.
Jan 25 2009 9:23PM
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ThaLorax
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no man, i at least agree with you on atmosphere. i don't really get the big deal with him.  i do like that he plays with a live band though.
Jan 25 2009 9:39PM
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TheQuailman
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haha I was joking.  But seriously its stupid to tell someone else the music they like sucks because music is an internal thing.  It should be judged on the way you connect with it, not others.  And don't get hung up on the whole underground vs. mainstream thing that takes over NS.

And I like Talib Kweli a lot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77zxCAfVeD8

Jan 26 2009 5:18PM
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ThaLorax
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yeah but the thing is that too many mainstream artists actually do suck and don't deserve all the fame/money they get form sucking their record labels big phat hard-on while truely talented ones are left scrounging up enough money to put food ont heir families table at night.
Jan 26 2009 5:22PM
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namaste
Posts: 69 - Karma: 10
if you like the 90s hard htiting shit you should peep the song terror by masta ace. Im surprised more people dont fuck with  Ace on this site.


Jan 27 2009 9:31AM
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TheQuailman
Posts: 7382 - Karma: 147

haha thats cute.  Honestly, its all about the hustle.  Most legit/succesful artists have thrown up radio songs to make dough off of.  Uhhh Biggie, no doubt, almost all his popular songs mo money mo problems, big poppa, juicy are nothing like the legit verses and raw beats in the rest of his songs.  Tupac - changes, wu tang clan pretty much rza I think marketed the fuck outa themselves and made a ton of money.  If legit rappers want money they gotta make some songs people can listen to in the club - hahaahahha kanye west, everyone hates but its true, nas too.

And I'm sure I feel bad for artists who don't have money.  No one said you are entitled to money for being a skilled artist.

speaking of which do you buy all your albums?

Jan 27 2009 8:04PM
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Dosh
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i fuck with ace, but there's far more grimy stuff than that
Jan 27 2009 8:07PM
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ThaLorax
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haha. you named so many mainstream artists man. that doesn't prove any point at all.  anyways, no, of course i dont' pay for all my albums, i'm a college student. i ain't got shit for money.  i do buy albums from smaller name artists when i can. i've bought all the sweatshop union albums i have and cali p's album for example.
Jan 27 2009 8:50PM
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Gorno
Posts: 266 - Karma: 28

~cough cough, refer to my icon~

Jan 27 2009 8:57PM
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ThaLorax
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yeah dawg, they own.
Jan 27 2009 9:00PM
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Gorno
Posts: 266 - Karma: 28
Where did you hear Sweatshop's stuff... being all the way in Cali?
Jan 27 2009 9:05PM
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ThaLorax
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i got this moutnain bike movie and one of the scenes used thing about it. so back when they first came out with natural progression.  but any hip hop enthusiast should at least have heard of them. they got some of the best lyrics in the game.
Jan 27 2009 9:09PM
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Dosh
Posts: 1818 - Karma: 14
you just don't get it quailman!
Jan 27 2009 10:08PM
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Gorno
Posts: 266 - Karma: 28
Porkchop would not be proud....
Jan 27 2009 10:32PM
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TheQuailman
Posts: 7382 - Karma: 147

hahah, I don't think you get it man.

Its getting old how every other thread in media arts is like "lil wayne and every popular artist is so lameeeee" I listen to underground hip hop.  And then proceed to list a bunch of extremely popular rappers that are in ski movies and be like 'what else is good'.

Haha, I think some of the artists always mentioned on NS are good but its ridiculous to say you hate popular rappers and then list the rappers that EVERYONE ON NS LOVES.  When everyone is down with underground rap its NOT UNDERGROUND. Just like good music and stop falling in line with this bullshit underground movement.  99% of rappers want to be on MTV making millions and the ones that don't say shit like "I could make millions but I choose not too"

And then to bitch out rappers who do make millions, and feel sorry for those that don't.  I mean give me a break thats life.  And then to not even support them by buying their albums - thats a joke.

Jan 28 2009 2:48PM
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ryan13
Posts: 24 - Karma: 10
Don't forget Mic Boyd. They all bring it hard from the Martimes
Jan 28 2009 5:04PM
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ja.
Posts: 1705 - Karma: 144
i fully agree with you.
Jan 28 2009 5:22PM
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Dosh
Posts: 1818 - Karma: 14
no i agree with you on that. i've been over that stupid discrepancy for a while. but any time you list artists you like, i disagree with you completely. you seem to throw around a couple of names (i.e. kanye, talib) lame shit like that. you really have not demonstrated a full knowledge to me. and believe me i am the guy that you should be trying to prove that to. and stop making the money and underground vs. mainstream argument. you seem to believe you have stumbled upon the greatest revelation of the decade. just by making the argument you want to be grouped into some elite circle. but you aren't there yet. as a member of that circle, let me be the first but im sure not the last to tell you, you have a long way to go. but good luck. and if you want to talk shop with me, we can. i would love that.
Jan 28 2009 8:09PM
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doritos
Posts: 7368 - Karma: 53
No one should be trying to prove their knowledge of hip hop to anyone, that's a ridiculous statement. Both of us are hip hop snobs but we clearly have very different tastes within the genre. Both are legitimate, and that's how it should be with everyone.

If you like talentless hip pop that's your own opinion - enjoy. Don't come on here with Weezy's dick stuffed halfway down your esophagus trying to claim he's anywhere close to one of the greatest MCs of our time because he's not. That simple. But if you like him, fuck it, bump his shit all day and all night for all I care. I come into a lot of "these are the artists I like" type threads and post alternatives that I think are vastly better, take it or leave it, but I don't expect anyone to try and prove their knowledge of hip hop to me in order to qualify some stupid internet post.
Jan 28 2009 8:31PM
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Dosh
Posts: 1818 - Karma: 14
im half joking, andrew haha. and i am all for bumping what you like, that's all that should matter. but you also have to respect wayne if you're going to make that claim. not that hes my favorite or anything, but some people prefer him just as you and i have our own preferences.
Jan 28 2009 8:39PM
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ja.
Posts: 1705 - Karma: 144
this has gotten way outta hand.
Jan 29 2009 12:36AM
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doritos
Posts: 7368 - Karma: 53
Haha, yes it has...

My bad Eric, text sarcasm is a bitch. Didn't mean to come off like a dick. As for Wayne, though, the only thing I respect about him is his ability to sound like he's getting his dick sucked as he spits. Nothing he's done has impressed me except a select few beats. A very select few. Again, if that's peoples' thing I'm not here to judge, but I definitely disagree.
Jan 29 2009 12:46AM
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TheQuailman
Posts: 7382 - Karma: 147

^ werd

I understand and agree with what both of you guys are saying.  But theres nothing wrong with listening to a song because you enjoy it.  I would have to say that my list of favorite songs is completely different than my list of what the greatest songs are.  I'm saying that if someone wants good hip-hop, that doesn't always mean the best MC, it means a song they are going to enjoy listening too.

Whatever, maybe I'm not making sense.

And yea I'm not a fan of lil wayne.  His voice is very obnoxious and he rabbles on about nothing, but if you like him than you like him.  Like lil wayne could be your favorite rapper and theres no problem, but if you say he is the best rapper, than theres a problem.  Like kweli is probably my favorite rapper, but I would NEVER say he is the best rapper.  Nas is.

Jan 29 2009 11:08AM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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Ive been listening to a lot of good shit lately,
Wu-Tang forever
Hieroglyphics
Some of RZA's single stuff
Method Man
I know there kinda wired but Cypress Hill is dope when your blowin trees
Delron 3030
Aesop
Jedi Mind
One be lo aka one man army
DL incognito- Audio Coke is new fav. song
Notorious B.I.G.
Eyedea and Abilities
Zion I
Atmospehre
and much more
Jan 29 2009 12:50PM
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ja.
Posts: 1705 - Karma: 144
who here has the song "Letter to B.I.G" by Jada? (hopefully everyone), well search the internets and download "Gumbo Pot" by Keak da Sneak. Same beat, just slowed down. Kinda ruins the feel for the tribute track to Biggie.
Jan 29 2009 1:17PM
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ChronicLines
Posts: 951 - Karma: 61
Welcome to 5 years ago.
Jan 29 2009 4:42PM
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Dosh
Posts: 1818 - Karma: 14
i believe "letter to Big" is on one of 9th wonders "dream merchant" cds. not sure if vol 1 or 2 though
Jan 29 2009 7:20PM
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