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GLOBAL WARMING MY ASS!!!!

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Hockeyfisher11
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this is the biggest bunch of bullshit that I've ever heard in my life. I'm sitting here in Minnesota freezing my testicles off in -30 Degree weather while still hearing about global warming. I'm sorry there's just no way that i can believe this crap. (Sorry if this has already been created as a thread)
Jan 15 2009 1:17PM
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grown-ninja
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seen it dont believe in it...have you checked all of gores facts a lot of them stretch the truth and some areent even true
Jan 15 2009 9:21PM
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AMD_5
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I never said that we aren't having an effect on the environment. We are, but its blown out of proportion. Learn to read, dude.
Jan 15 2009 9:30PM
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ThaLorax
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This thread is full of idiots.  IYes, Global Climate Change is real.  Anybody who denies that needs to get some education outside of the internet.   I'm an Environmental Science major and the impacts we have had on the environment are drastic. 
-We spew CO2 into the air and cut down trees faster than they can regrow.  Trees absorb CO2 and convert it to Oxygen. 
-We drain rivers to the point where both the Colorado River and the Rio Grande no longer reach the ocean. 
-Much of the world's farmlands are turning to arid deserts due to poor farming and water management.
-There are over 6 billion fucking people on the planet, how can 6 billion people NOT have an impact on it?


I highly suggest going to www.myfootprint.org and seeing for yourself how much of an impact you personally have on the environment.  The people that made that website have gone through painstakingly difficult measures to calculate how many earth's it would take if everyone lived like you.  They ask you questions and formulate an answer based on your responses.  If you care about where you live I suggest checking it out.

I do not have time to fully respond to all the hillarious responses in this thread right now cuz i'm running late for a movie but I will agree that the media has blown climate change out of proportion using fear tactics.  That does not mean that we aren't in a dire situation though.  The wars of this century will more likely be over water then they will be over anything else.
Jan 15 2009 9:51PM
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ThaLorax
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http://www.myfootprint.org

for the lazy
Jan 15 2009 9:51PM
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billysexcrime
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Global warming is a tool of the alarmist majority...
Jan 15 2009 10:27PM
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blackoutbill
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I like you. (No homo) This is one of the most logical and educated arguments on this thread.
Jan 15 2009 10:34PM
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Mooserz
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im watching this thing on nat geo right now and basically their saying that if the sea level were to rise 6 feet florida would be fucked and all the guidos would be wiped out
Jan 15 2009 10:37PM
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billysexcrime
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not sure if i said anything about fearing terrorists in the middle eastern threads...i made a few comments about the crisis but some posters were much more outspoken than I. What my above means is that people love to jump on a bandwagon of hate, furthermore its downright arrogant for us to think that humans have the power to substantially affect such a time tested body that is earth.
Jan 15 2009 10:42PM
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gbirrd
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fucking -49 in regina.fuck
Jan 15 2009 11:50PM
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lotsoffun
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rofl, OP, i know its -20 tomorrow in buffalo
Jan 16 2009 3:13AM
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doritos
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Yeah, I haven't read the thread and I'm sure this has been said, but you're a dumbass. Global warming doesn't mean everything gets warmer, it's an incomprehensibly subtle difference averaged out over the entire planet. An extra 2 degrees or whatever isn't gonna make it spring skiing all year, it's gonna fuck with weather patterns real hard so outrageously unpredictable weather occurs all the time, like mad hurricanes and -30 in minnesota.
Jan 16 2009 3:25AM
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ThaLorax
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that is a perfect example of one of the ways the situation is being blown out of proportion by the media. there is no evidence that the oceans are rising as of yet
Jan 16 2009 4:28AM
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BcPowderHunter
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i dont like you.
Jan 16 2009 4:55AM
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ThaLorax
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do you even know what that means? did you hear someone say that and you wanted to sound intelligent? how can it be a tool of the alarmist majority if the alarmist majority are the ones that are being targeted by the fear mongering media?
Jan 16 2009 5:15AM
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PhaedeD
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Al Gore you are so wrong. lol go talk to a real scientist.
Jan 16 2009 9:53AM
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BMB
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yeah
Jan 16 2009 10:09AM
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ThaLorax
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thank you

To those of  you who claim climate change is a farse,  can I see some facts?
Jan 16 2009 10:48AM
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sirskizalot
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a couple weeks ago i was sitting here in -20 degree weather, but now its been +5 for the past week so our snow is melting :(
Jan 16 2009 10:59AM
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smuggsVT
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people are not responsible for global warming.   Stop trying to make everyone feel guilty.
Jan 16 2009 12:41PM
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cfox
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well first it was "global warming" but now its changed to "climate change"




didnt you know?!?!?!!?!?
Jan 16 2009 12:45PM
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ThaLorax
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sort of. it is a natural process that we have intensified through many different ways. it is our responsibility to take care of the earth because we are the only species  with the capability to manipulate our environment to suit our own needs.
Jan 16 2009 1:06PM
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MangoSteeze
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Climate change is nothing new. Over 99% of all animal species that inhabited the earth are now extinct. however, I'm down to use whatever works to get people thinking more about our environment. if "Global Warming" is what works then im all for it.
Jan 16 2009 2:08PM
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doritos
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The people bleating "Humans would be arrogant to think we can change the climate" like so many sheep need to stop massaging their dicks to conservative talk radio on the hasty. Will the Earth be fine after we're gone? Absolutely. It's seen worse, and it will recover. Can we fuck it up enough to kill off our own species? Without question.

And we're getting there real fast. Have you seen how many fucking hurricanes there have been recently? Absurd amounts, it's never been like this before ever. 15 degrees in Atlanta, GA yesterday morning? Shit is fucked, kids - stop buying into conservative horseshit, strap a bomb to your shitty SUV, and get real. Quick.
Jan 16 2009 3:23PM
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Parkboy
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Dear thread creator,

To bring up the topic of Climate Change and support your stance on the issue by referring to a one day weather event proves you are an idiot.

Till next time,

-Parkboy





Jan 16 2009 3:34PM
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KarmaInitiative
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people are responsible for global warming, stop trying to deny it so you wont feel guilty

ever hear one of those random facts like if every american replace one bulb with a energy conserving bulb it would save like a billion pounds of co2, how many of you have changed bulbs?
Jan 16 2009 8:11PM
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billysexcrime
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drew your so frustrating....you give the earth far too little credit, it adapts. think of when a meteor strikes the planet, all of the dust and gasses released then is far more than the output of any factory or automobile, and hey, earth survives. I can already tell that this is clearly not in your nature but sometimes you need to chill the fuck out, not all hope is lost for humanity my friend.
Jan 16 2009 9:23PM
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doritos
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Earth survives. Species don't. I really do believe the Earth will survive our idiocy, it will take a lot of time to recover but it'll be OK. If we keep it up we're fucked though.
Jan 16 2009 9:25PM
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Hockeyfisher11
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This has not been a "one day weather event"  We are on pace to have the coldest winter in the history of our state so screw you.  Also in your life time can you think of a time when texas has had below freezing temperature??? I cant

Maybe I'm an idiot i can take that.....

But you just jump on the bandwagon and suck Al Gore's dick because hes "all knowing" or something
Jan 17 2009 12:28AM
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freezed
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I don't know why I click on these threads...I know exactly what's going to be in them, and I know I'll get frustrated. Why do I click anyways? It's a mystery.
Jan 17 2009 4:48AM
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ferrinski86
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I dont know why everybody is always bitching at each other. All of a sudden the tone im hearing is we are going to fuck our planet up in like a year or two's time if we dont do anything about it and all this bullshit, bullshit, bullshit... STOP thinking that we are not doing anything about it.

last time i checked America is one of the top leading countries in the world on developing alternative energy and fuels to STOP our polluting of the earth, despite the fact of Global Warming.

Lets see.....

We are currently developing emission free coal plants, which we house 1/4 of the worlds coal reserves.

We have Bioenergy, which, ranks second (to hydropower) in renewable U.S. primary energy production

We also can harness the geothermal energy from the earth (well, we have been for a long time). hell.. we even are close to using fusion energy which the french are developing and are scheduled to be done by 2015.

we also have the given energy, such as solar, wind, hydrogen and nuclear.

Another fact i found interesting is that the United Arab Emirates is building the WORLDS FIRST CARBON-NEUTRAL CITY which is run on a complete renewable energy sources.

Those are just to name a few.

Like i said before, our generation will experience the greatest leaps in technological advances, not only in energy but every aspect of our culture, than any other generation in history. The advances we make will be greater than the advent of the car, or space exploration or sliced bread for that matter. I am actually exited to see what the future brings in, if we dont blow the world up in the mean time. haha

sorry for the rant but for everybody to sit here and bullshit how we are destroying our planet and not doing anything about it is pathetic.
Jan 17 2009 11:47AM
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Runthered
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ya bro i know what you mean
here in canada im at edmonton and this week it started to warm up cause for a constant 3 weeks it was below -30 everyday
the coldest was -50
and some days -45
so ya i know what you mean
canada could use some global warming cause this is bs
Jan 17 2009 12:12PM
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ferrinski86
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alright. point accepted.

i agree that we are polluting our world to almost the max. fresh water is a problem, ocean acidification is a problem as well like you are saying. we are ruining some of our ecosystems but i do not personally believe that global warming is real, based on my own research, hearings and opinions.

like you said, he have 6 billion people on earth so how could we not effect the earth? i do believe in Global climate change just not global warming as a human cause. i believe its more a play on words than an actual problem.

the point that i want to bring up is, we as a species are like a parasite. we consume everything, we want everything and we want it as cheap as possible. The point we need to reach is to sustain the environment in accordance with our needs. there is too many people on earth to survive without consuming mother natures resources. I dont know the answer, and we have already polluted the earth. i sell furniture, what am i to do? stop selling furniture because we are chopping down trees? actually, we have several furniture companies that get their wood from 100% re-forested areas. so my point is, is there an equal balance somewhere between consumption and the environment, or have we passed that already?
Jan 17 2009 12:55PM
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AA--92
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in oslo norway we got 5+ celsius and the snow is gone
Jan 17 2009 2:30PM
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icrashoften
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we had minus forty in milwaukee the other day...

al gore can come shovel my porch
Jan 17 2009 2:32PM
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leckett1
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Thank youuu!

Lets think of the times of our lovely little dinosaurs. There was A LOT more CO2 in the air back then because of volcanic action. I don't remember the analogy used but in a single volcanic eruption more CO2 is released into the air than can even be compared to anything man made

Jan 17 2009 2:36PM
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leckett1
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It bothers me that everyone is trying so hard to 'reduce' and 'prevent' and 'reverse' its so economically incorrect we just can't afford it. Since climate change is kinda a natural cycle shouldn't we try to adapt to it rather than put such an astronomic sum of money in the wrong place?
Jan 17 2009 2:38PM
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Eastcoastskier09
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hahahha
very funny++++k for making me laugh
Jan 17 2009 2:40PM
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49566738265
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Fucking up the planet- sure.  On the scale described by extreme advocates of Global Warming?  Debatable.  I don't know why you would call anyone who is not comfortable with believing global warming is 100% fact an idiot.  Frankly to accept everything you have "researched" (I put that in quotes because it is a THEORY- which is why professional scientists continue to debate and theorize on both sides today) is idiotic.  Get off your high horse and accept the FACT that it has not been proven adequately enough to justify spending trillions of government dollars on extreme measures. 

On that note, there is no reason not to do everything we can to clean our planet and properly lower consumption through recycling and planting trees, etc.  At the least it makes a town more enjoyable to live in.
Jan 17 2009 2:55PM
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Mr.Panda
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global warming is annoying becasue if you look at both sides saying that 'A' it does exist and 'B' that it doesnt and keep an open mind...  both sides make sense.  we surley arent helping but on the other hand, who knows if this is strange and abnormal or one of the waves of changes that happen to our world.  lets all find the fountain of youth, make a time machine, and travel 100000 years in the future and then 100000 years in the past from this time and see what is going on.

one thing that confuses me though and i have no idea which side of the debate this goes on but i have a friend that is a crab fisherman and during the opi season, a lot of the 20-25 year vets are saying they have never seen the ice caps as far south as they are getting lately.

Jan 17 2009 3:28PM
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ferrinski86
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that would on the "believe in global warming" side.

Sorry to say this but the 20-25 year vets saying that "they have never seen the ice caps as far south as they are getting" part is not really relevant. sure it a good argument for Global warming for those who are dumb enough to believe that 25 years is any length of time compared with the history of the world is anywhere near significant.

The ice caps have surly been that far south before in the history of the world. The earth is just in its normal cycle of shifting weather patterns. In another 100,000 years or however amount of time you want to pick, the ice caps will be even larger than what they should be.

im not picking on you i was just stating my perception on your post. its when people are saying its to cold where they live that is really stupid. come on, were you people not alive 20 years ago when it was just as cold out in most of your places? or were you not even born yet? (im not asking you im asking the general NSers)
Jan 17 2009 3:50PM
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Mr.Panda
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yeah, i still say we make a time machine...  cause that would just be badass
Jan 17 2009 3:57PM
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triebby
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If you believe in global warming, climate change, or whatever you want to call it, please just read the first chapter of this book to see how mistaken you are. If you don't believe in it, read the first chapter of this book to see how correct you are.
Jan 17 2009 4:05PM
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Mr.Panda
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http://politicalcrossfire.com/

it you want a good laugh go here and see the people that are at the extremes of both sides basically yelling and screaming at each other and not willing to see either side of the argument.  the gun control threads are also quite good.

Jan 17 2009 4:08PM
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ClownPrince
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Alright, maybe a valid statement, but probably not a valid analogy to global warming.

The part of gravity that is still considered a "theory" is its mathematical formulation in physics/astronomy (more specifically, Einstein's general relativity), which is mostly accepted but still challenged by some in the field.

Presumably, the "gravity" you are referring to is the force between any two massive objects, which is hard to argue with since Earth and life would not exist without it. I'm assuming that you are arguing this is like global warming in that even something as simple as the presence of a gravitational force has its detractors, but this is not really a viable argument. Global warming is much less cut-and-dried from what I've seen. Like I said before, I don't know a whole lot about global warming so I can't speak to that part of your argument, but be aware that it is not as one-sided as you are saying.

Sorry, that got a little bit long and off-topic. 

    
Jan 17 2009 4:46PM
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Quinn
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its funny this thread came up because i have always said that the most annoying thing ever is when its cold out one day and some ass is like, GLOBAL WARMING IS BS.
Jan 17 2009 4:57PM
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DaveM
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im sure this has already been said but global warming makes our summer hotter and our winter colder...
Jan 17 2009 5:03PM
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ClownPrince
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I guess. The way I read it, it didn't sound like he was so much trying to refute global warming as trying to say that the issue is debatable (because it's only a theory). All I was pointing out was that gravity was a bad example for your point - arguing that despite this, we should act to prevent it.   

I don't think he was saying that we shouldn't, just that people should realize that there's not only one side. So, I think you might have missed his point, because it seems more similar to yours than you think.

But whatever, I'm not really trying to argue anything to you, just saying you should listen to other viewpoints.
Jan 17 2009 5:26PM
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ferrinski86
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i agree that the way we live right now isn't sustainable but would you care to enlighten us on what is sustainable? you still haven't answered my previous question a couple posts back on how we should live as a species? have we passed our sustainable levels to survive?

i know we have fucked up our planet, we agree on that. there are thousands of corporations that are trying their best to be eco-friendly despite the global warming factor.
Jan 17 2009 5:37PM
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ferrinski86
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jea night shredding is fun so have fun!

thanks for responding to my post, i know you get sick of trying to talk/argue/explain to every post that is out there, haha.

So, i agree with everything your saying on the sustainability level. you made a dam good point on how, "just because we replant trees does not mean it has the same effect that it would if nature would have replaced it." I dont know where you are going to move but America will be on the list of countries that cause our demise so good luck to where ever you move too.

You also had a good point when you stated that, "we have been accustomed to a certain standard of living." So true and yes, it even sickens me and i am in a business that sells people those "standards of living" (middle-to-high end furniture). The amount of wealth people have nowadays is quite amazing, or the race to get wealthy. We found out as a country how wealth can collapse an economy (or the lack-there of money or lack of oversite whatever you want to call it). Yes my carbon footprint is 90 % higher than those in other poor countries but am i going to change that.... probably not. im going to get way off topic now so im not even going to bother. lol

thanks again tho for posting, have fun skiing.
Jan 17 2009 6:46PM
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AOTEAROA
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thats why people who call it global warming are stupid the proper name is global climate change, for place increase in temp others decrease. read up before you say what you heard on the news.
Jan 17 2009 6:53PM
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