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What is Shingbang?

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Smuffy
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So i know what shinbang is and how it occurs, but I was wondering if anyone knows what actually happens when you get it. Is it a bruise, something related to shin splints or what? Basically, i wanna know what the medical term for shinbang would be.

i searchbarred it and all i could find were people complaining about shinbang, not what actually happens to your body.
Jan 13 2009 3:05PM
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laurence^
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What is bruised shins trebec.
Jan 13 2009 3:08PM
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Smuffy
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is it just a brusie? cause what confuses me is that theres pretty much no visible signs of one...
Jan 13 2009 3:13PM
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A.R.
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you must have awesome boots if ur asking that
Jan 13 2009 3:14PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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its bruised, but can also be tiny tiny tiny fractures in the bone. it really depends on how you get it. all of the shinbang i've ever had has been bruising.
Jan 13 2009 3:27PM
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summersover
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i get major calfbang (is that a word haha) but it never bruises its just mad sore my shins too but not as bad
Jan 13 2009 3:30PM
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DGiurk
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i thought it was swelling when you hit it it gets fuild with pus and some other bodily fluids...but idk thats just what i think...cause a bruise would be black blue yellow or green
Jan 13 2009 3:31PM
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tim_ASP
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The shittyest part about skiing IMO.

lol, but seriously, every time I've gotten it, its been like a bruised calf muscle or a deep shin bruise.  I actually took it to the doctor once after a really hard fall, and they just said it was like a deep tissue bruise or bone bruise or something like that.  Hurt so much I thought i cracked my shin.


Jan 13 2009 3:33PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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its bruising of the bone itself...generally not a soft tissue bruise which is why you don't get any black and blue.
Jan 13 2009 3:44PM
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skifree179
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dude thats why i never see it

it makes me so mad taht i can def feel it but never see it

Jan 13 2009 3:51PM
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ASkierNamedJaymz
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sounds good.... i think hes right
Jan 13 2009 3:54PM
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Malcolm
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i have no more hair on my shins
Jan 13 2009 3:59PM
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BigMeech621
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full tilt?
Jan 13 2009 4:03PM
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Smuffy
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that makes sense. thanks man.
Jan 13 2009 10:24PM
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St.Steezy
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landing backseat causing stress on shin muscles. Repeated stress pulls muscle makingyou shins sore and tender to impact.
Jan 14 2009 3:59AM
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gaper174
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I think it is just tiny stres fractures in your shins... thats what my uncle said and he's a doctor.. idk but it hurts like a btich
Jan 14 2009 10:16AM
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ChadThundercock
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usually its just small hairline fractures in your shin, accompanied by bruises
Jan 14 2009 10:22AM
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griffon
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its small cracks in your leg that fills up with inflammation(think that's the right word, not sure only looked it up in the dictionary)
Jan 14 2009 10:25AM
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CHRISm
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there are different varieties. i don't think anyone has touched on this cause: when you smash your calves into the back of your boots they tighten and pull the muscles on the front of the lower leg out of their anatomically correct position. that's why when you land backseat sometimes your shins hurt so bad. it can also be caused by overuse and rapid building of calf muscles, which is a similar mechanism to how shin splints form.

Jan 14 2009 10:26AM
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Balto
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can be anything from brusing to shin splints
Jan 14 2009 11:07AM
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doritos
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Shinbang and calfbang are no question the worst parts of skiing. Good to finally know what it is. Now... anyone know ways to make it go away faster besides mad ibuprofen?
Jan 14 2009 12:43PM
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thenakedcellist
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hurts
Jan 14 2009 12:59PM
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TheBeardedOne
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fill a bathtub up with a couple bags of ice and cold water, insert shins, try not to scream, and voila, all fixed :)
Jan 14 2009 1:04PM
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PeterNorth
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shin bang is caused by landing back seat, if your land back seat over and over your bone starts to bend and u get stress fractures in the front of your shin. thats the part that hurts and it means take a couple of days off!
Jan 14 2009 1:06PM
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Stilev
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my school has an ice bath which works wonders

Jan 14 2009 1:47PM
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canadianclassic
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So is your guy's shinbang only while you're in your boots and skiing or does it keep you up at night just hurting? I could hardly sleep last night from pain in my shins.
Jan 14 2009 3:10PM
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highaltNM
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I shinbang when I spend an entire day hiking in the park. 
Jan 14 2009 3:30PM
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doritos
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If I get it real bad because I'm doing tons of sketchy jibs instead of being selective and/or hiking the park for hours then it will bother me for up to two days. The day after is usually the worst for me, actually. I try not to land back seat but if you're trying new things sometimes you can't really avoid it.

The ice bath sounds prime though, I'm definitely doing that. I've been cheated out of at least four or five days this year because my shinbang was too gnarly the next day.
Jan 14 2009 4:35PM
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Elife
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it kinda feels like this only it lasts for a few weeks
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Jan 14 2009 4:52PM
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Flood9
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word! same
Jan 14 2009 4:56PM
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Shpadoinkle
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I'll have "The Rapists" for 400, Alex.


Back to shin bang. Best thing to do is not ski for at least 5 days. That's what I did and I feel FANTASTIC!
Jan 14 2009 7:13PM
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doritos
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Well yeah, but... fuck that. I can deal with throbbing pain in my shins, I can't deal with taking a break from skiing. The sole reason I want to rid myself of shin bang is so that I can ski again sooner. Even if ice doesn't cure it and only makes it feel better, and skiing again too soon will make it way worse, I don't care. That's good enough for me.
Jan 14 2009 7:22PM
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Shpadoinkle
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I was going crazy for 5 days, but thank God for my friend who tore his ACL. He made me feel better about myself.

Sorry, Mike. We still love you. I want to see some pretzels at A-Bay at the end of the season.
Jan 14 2009 7:29PM
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bpb323
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"my afterbang is crouching over holding my shins in pain" ryan
Jan 14 2009 7:55PM
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B.G
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no doubt sinbang and calfbang sucks ass. i calfbanged twice on a 55 jump case but 2 hourse 3 advil a beer and a joint helped me recover for the rest of the day.
Jan 15 2009 2:23AM
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Spendiggity
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im pretty sure ive had like every variation of shin bang, because every time it occures differently for me. Ive had shin bang/ splints every skiing and running season for the past 6 or 7 years, I even snapped my shin a few years ago when i used to ski race. i think its cuz the front muscle on my shin is not as strong as my calf. anyway, heres some things that I have found that helped me keep skiing. first off, when skiing, always keep forward pressure and avoid cranking your upper body out of the backseat. Even staying forward can fuck up your shins though, especially for me when i raced cuz i had 120 flex boots and only wieghed 125 in high school. For your boots, you really should make sure they fit you properly and that u didnt buy them online or something. also, heal lifts can help you keep forward pressure, and put ur lower leg in a diffent position in the boot. booster straps can help a bit because they pull the tongue of the line tighter to your leg, and has a somewhat forgiving flex. they have never been a life saver for me, especially once you already have shin pain, but for 30 bucks they are worth it the added comfort. What im about to try is those custom intuition or id liners that came with my new boot (finally replaced my race boots last week). I can tell by looking at scarpas full tilts and el moros that they provide more consistent leg support through the whole leg. When skiing, its also a good idea to have a few ib propfien*, or PBRs (repping the Mil-town) if your like me and the soreness literally makes your ski like a bitch otherwise. Finally, off the hill, make sure you ice all the time. im so sick of hearing that from every physical therapist trainer or doctor, but it is the fastest way to recovery. last thing is that if you have a weight room, use one of those weight machines that you sit down at and lift your toes. I dont know what those are called, but if you do like 30 slowly with your toes forward, then 15 with your toes angled outward as far as u can stretch, and then 15 with your toes inwards. this is most effective in the preseason and strengthens the muscles in your shins that cause the pain. also make sure that you stretch out your calfs and shins a bunch. Sorry for writing a novel there, but i want to share as much knowledge about this as i could.
Also. I heard somewhere that some pros shave the front of their shins to keep the front of their leg from slipping around. I actually tried this a month ago and I dont know if im fully prepared to advocate that, at the very least it makes it so your shin hair doesnt hurt and or fall out later in the season, but it looks pretty ridiculous. idk about that, but i thought id throw it out there cuz somebody who reads this might be desperate.
Jan 16 2009 2:28PM
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Spendiggity
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i forgot to mention. if youve got traditional liners and the tongue is replaceable, I know that you can buy extra padded tongues, but that probably will only help you if your shin pain is on the front of your shin. i thought about doing this but my situation is real fucked up cuz the shin i broke is bent, so that leg hurts on the front of the shin where it bends and on my other leg hurts on the outside.
Jan 16 2009 2:33PM
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hellomynameisjef
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shinbang is hell
Jan 16 2009 3:43PM
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FujaSkiier
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I trained for Muay Thai when I was younger for 7 years so I think I have a fairly conditioned shin.  I've never had shin bang.  Like Spendiggity said, I think if you condition your shins, then it will help prevent shin bang.  Go to the gym and do toe lifts. 

Also, here are some tips a lot of muay thai fighters do. 

1. Apply Methyl-Salicylate generously to your shins and warm them up by going for a 20 min run. MS causes local vascodilation and good blood flow. You can also substitute with ditdajow.

2. Kick Thai Pads, or a banana bag till your shins (not the skin or muscle above it) are slightly sore. Doing this in the sun is recommended. (Promotes vitamin D production for efficient calcium absorption.) Approximately 10 minutes of hard kicking on a regular pad surface should be sufficient for a beginner. Use your judgement.

3. Sit down. Point your toes, flex your calves: repeat 10 times each leg. Apply more Methyl-Salicylate and massage the shins and surrounding muscles deeply. Attend to localised knots/bumps if you feel any and try to break them up. The blood carries calcium, protein and all the good stuff which actually thickens up the shins.

4. Repeat steps 2-3 at least 4 times a day.

5. Apply an ice pack to both shins for the next 20-30 minutes. Massage and apply ice-pack repeatedly for as often you wish upto the next 48 hours. Do not kick the bag for at least the next day.

5. Take a 600 mg Calcium + vitamin D supplement. Else, drink a lot of milk and water. Eat fish, chew its bones, eat them.

6. Having taken *at least* one day off, repeat all the steps above.

This technique is more than just a superficial numbing of the nerves. In a month or two, you should be left with *denser* shins. Also, spar moderately to get a feel for what striking with it feels like.


In the end, not only will this prevent shin bang, but you are on your way to becoming a muay thai fighter.  LOL.

Jan 16 2009 5:08PM
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Mrvic.
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i had to go to the emergency room over vacation because i had it so bad and i could not even pick up my feet... the doctor told me it was the tissue in my shin getting severly bruised and swollen... its pretty painful
Jan 16 2009 5:17PM
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s.bishop
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it was in another thread and saved me lots of pain today, so what i did, was:
push the tounge as tight to my foot and shin and tighten foot buckles,
then, tighten strap around the liner itself only NOT around the shell,
then tighten up other buckles.  and really tightly buckled is key i think.
i was almost ready to go home at 10am because of my shins, but this made it so i could keep riding till 4pm
Jan 16 2009 5:32PM
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gaper174
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it basically sucks and there isnt really any way to stop it unless you stomp perfect landinges everytime.. thats they key
Jan 20 2009 9:38AM
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gaper174
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it basically sucks and there isnt really any way to stop it unless you stomp perfect landinges everytime.. thats they key
Jan 20 2009 9:38AM
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Rippy087
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i've been skiing with my SPK kaos boots for a little over a year and I never got shinbang until sunday this week.  Badly bruised shins, but they weren't painful until after I got off the mountain.

Jan 20 2009 10:39AM
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doritos
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That's cool shit dude, good advice. I'm gonna do this next summer and see if any of it helps me next season.
Jan 20 2009 5:29PM
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