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Marker Griffon's and preventing Knee injuries?

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MacDaddy
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Ok so basically i have heard that the Marker Griffon bindings were supposed to help prevent knee injuries. Is this true? 

Jan 12 2009 10:30PM
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matt.rad
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Ummm... I don't think so.
But getting your binding mounted and DINs set by a certified shop technician will help.
Jan 12 2009 10:35PM
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TheBeardedOne
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that, and full tilts cure cancer! true story!

haha sorry man i had to... who knows though they might
Jan 12 2009 10:35PM
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ski-swagga
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i doubt it..
Jan 12 2009 10:40PM
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.Brink.
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Jan 12 2009 10:43PM
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MEGAZORD
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All bindings are there to prevent knee injury.  Get something with a vertical release, not the jesters or griffons. 
Jan 12 2009 10:45PM
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MacDaddy
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yea i already had that done and i still have to go to the doctor about my knee.
Jan 12 2009 10:46PM
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Silence
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I think FKS120's are probably the best binding for your knees
Jan 12 2009 10:54PM
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Balto
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griffons=one of the worst bindings ever
Jan 12 2009 10:56PM
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Krook3d
Posts: 240 - Karma: 21

Please explain how...

Jan 12 2009 11:09PM
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matt.rad
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I didn't mean having a tech mount your bindings will heal your knees or prevent knee injuries. However, it will give you a safe setup and allow your bindings to work in the safest way possible. Skiing is a dangerous activity, shit happens. People get hurt all the time. Have a doctor check out your knee, figure out what's wrong, take the necessary measures to get healthy again, and get back to shredding.
Jan 12 2009 11:09PM
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matt.rad
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It's a cheapified version of the Jester. Kind of how the Salomon S711 is a cheapified version of the S912 or S916. Same design, cheaper materials. Cheaper materials = easier on the wallet = less durable = shittier binding. Of course, it's all relative. The Griffon is still a much better binding than the Line Reactor.
Jan 12 2009 11:12PM
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skier_07
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still tore an acl... but yeah they have saved me from doing it before and would be my recommendation if your worried about yours knees.
Jan 12 2009 11:13PM
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bikerocker
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honestly the look/rossi toe piece is the safest by design.  the tru upward and twisting toe piece is super safe by the book.  the problem is when i test them.  they all test high (release testing when mounting).  every single pair.  the new marker system tests on the dot of what it's supposed to, or even a hair low.  i'd rather have that going on.  i still haven't popped out of my bindings (jesters) , and i have had some good tomahawks this season.  but at the same time i've not had a serious tweak on my knees either.  after knowing that i feel safe on the jesters.  i set my dins at a 3+ on the toes, and went one up on the heels.

but the rossi piece is still a lil safer in theory
Jan 12 2009 11:19PM
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stormtrooper
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Wrong, the griffons are the same as the jester, just the griffon goes up to 12 and jester goes up to 18,

its like how the s912 is to the s916

Jan 12 2009 11:19PM
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Krook3d
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Um no,the cheapified version of salomon is the STH 12 compared to the STH 16, exact same thing.Except the griffon is identical to the jester except for the toe wings,the heel piece and the din setting,when the griffon has almost the exact same material as any other 12 din binding,cause people who want a 12 din binding dont need 100% pure metal now do they.And i would take the griffon over many other bindings.

Jan 12 2009 11:20PM
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matt.rad
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Wrong, the Jesters go up to 16.
And wrong, if you've compared the two side by side, they're definitely not the same. If you've skied on both, they're definitely not the same.
Jan 12 2009 11:21PM
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matt.rad
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I'm not asying I wouldn't take the Griffon over certain other bindings because I would. And please go look at the toe piece on the STH 12 and the toe piece on the STH 16. See and differences? You should because they're completely different designs.
Jan 12 2009 11:23PM
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Krook3d
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Thats the only difference, and if you look at the griffon to the jester,there is absolutely no difference in looks. They perform the exact same.
Jan 12 2009 11:26PM
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Elg
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i thought the griffons had more plastic in them?
Jan 12 2009 11:29PM
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matt.rad
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That only difference is half of the binding. And just because two bindings look the same does not mean they perform the same. Try skiing aggressively on a pair of S810s and then on a pair of S916s, they're not even close to being the same.
Jan 12 2009 11:29PM
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Krook3d
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When it comes to the griffon and jesters yes they perform identical. And ^^ the griffons are 100% non plastic,its composite,and the jesters are composite with metal toe wings and heel piece,and higher din of course
Jan 12 2009 11:31PM
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matt.rad
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On some terrain, of course the two will perform identically. On bigger jumps and steeper and more difficult terrain at higher speeds, that's a different story. I'm not hating on the Griffons, just pointing out the they aren't the same as the Jester.
Jan 12 2009 11:36PM
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Silence
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Jan 12 2009 11:37PM
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Silence
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SO many things wrong with what you said
Jan 12 2009 11:38PM
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matt.rad
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BAHAHAHA. I was going to give you 10/10 karma for making me lol, but I already had you at that.
Jan 12 2009 11:40PM
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Krook3d
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Yea if you actually put both of them to a test then yes the jester performs better,but im 5'10 150 pounds and i got the griffons,cause im not gonna pay 100 bucks for the jester when in the long run will probably not do me any different.

Jan 12 2009 11:40PM
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Balto
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^hahahahahahaha
Jan 12 2009 11:41PM
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matt.rad
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And that's exactly why K2 introduced the Griffon in the line. Most people don't need a 16 DIN binding, and most people won't find any difference between the Griffon and the Jester in their everyday riding.
Jan 12 2009 11:44PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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The safest binding for your knee is http:/www.knee1.com
Jan 13 2009 7:07AM
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