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Hitting the gym... it's so hot right now.

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JDon
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Going to the gym is so damn hot right now! Getting strong and also staying flexible is pretty important for skiing and ingury prevention. Everyday I seem to hear about more and more pros hitting the gym: TJ Schiller, Justin Dorey, Sammy Carslon, Jon Olsson, and the list goes on.
I've been hitting the gym since the spring cuz I've always been a skinny track runner but I've definitely noticed that it has helped my skiing so far this winter.
Anyways who else goes to gym? Did you start going because of skiing or just for your overall health or for another sport? What do you focus on and what exercises do you like to do? etc.
Discuss...
Jan 11 2009 10:27PM
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DBAKE
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Ya can someone give me some good workouts for pow and park, mostly leg workouts.
Jan 11 2009 10:36PM
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Jwalk
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http://www.skiersrealm.com/general/sammy-carlson-dryland
Jan 11 2009 10:38PM
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RustyTrombone
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i started hittin the gym cuz i was always some skinny mofo that did all the running. gotta impress the ladies with the arms you know? its helped my skiing quite a bit actually. google leg workouts
Jan 11 2009 10:38PM
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JDon
Posts: 282 - Karma: 15
I just run stairs and do squats. Squats help but hurt so much. It sucks trying to walk the next day!
Jan 11 2009 10:40PM
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Slinger1x1
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i play football and lacrosse, so im working out all winter for sure. Squats and leg press are the shit, i love doing them, squats shouldnt hurt if you do it right, maybe sore the next day though. also calf raises is really good. as for arms, just bench and curl and then run a lot. im there every day after school
Jan 11 2009 10:46PM
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J.Braun
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squats will help alot i would think, but don't do too much, progress over time.
Jan 11 2009 10:47PM
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oldskewl
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I've been hitting the gym for years.  My downhill coach got me into it and it just stuck.
Jan 11 2009 10:51PM
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JDon
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Ya what i meant by hurt was just really sore the next day!
For the big compound excercises like dead lift, squats, bench press, etc. I always try to add 5lbs each week to progressively increase the weight and get stronger. It's a good feeling when you go back the next week and the weight you were pushing/pulling last week is easy!
Jan 11 2009 10:53PM
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skifree179
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I recently just joined a gym for overall health but then thinking about skiing it helped me out alot to being more dedicated to work out and helped my flexibility

Jan 12 2009 8:09AM
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CS_Films
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I get my swell on 4 days a week.
Jan 12 2009 8:14AM
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urbanjib
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hahaha i started this morning

woke at 5, ran a mile, and 40 leg presses... funnn... and then afterworkout stretches
Jan 12 2009 8:14AM
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notomatoplz
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squats help so much with skiing. make sure you go deeeep on them and use a weight that allows you to explode out from the bottom of each rep. after a few weeks you will start to notice some big differences if you didnt use to do leg workouts. anything that will strengthen your core will help your skiing aswell and it doesnt hurt to do some upper body training to prevent injury. especially shoulders and back.

Jan 12 2009 10:35AM
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CS_Films
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You want your legs to be at or verry close to 90 Degrees. If you use less weight and move further you will build muscle much faster. The deeper you go into a rep it Activates more muscle tissue.
Jan 12 2009 10:56AM
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Hack.The.Pow.
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yeah I'm a runner too....or I was haha. College has made me so lazy. I'm starting to hit the gym now though. I'm guessing as far as skiing goes leg workouts will help the most?
Jan 12 2009 12:20PM
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chipkalback
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going to the gym almost every day of the week from early summer through all fall helped me quite a bit. i carry around a decent amount of weight on my back if i'm shooting, i.e. camera bag, lightstands, flashes, 20 lbs. power unit, and sometimes more, and just getting my wind and strength in shape helped me a ton once the snow came.

ahmet said it best, you don't have to be some size medium tshirt wearing meathead to go to the gym, your body will love you for it and it helps prevent against injuries.
Jan 12 2009 1:21PM
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Wis_Skier_23
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you cant just focus on your legs you have to look at the arms too strictly leg workouts is pointless to me
Jan 12 2009 1:49PM
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Dobies.
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i just started hitting the gym like a week or so ago
Jan 12 2009 1:51PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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p90x
Jan 12 2009 1:52PM
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canadianclassic
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I'd recommend something based on compoud exercises like squats, bench and deadlifts/rowing. They work your entire body including abs and all the little stabalizers that you use while skiing. Switching up your type of squats really helps with balance under load as well, doing front squats or hack squats once in a while is a good way to change it up and keep your body adapting.
Jan 12 2009 1:56PM
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AmyLikes2Planks
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i stretch every morning when i wake up, it just makes my days better, feels great, and gives me some time to focus in the mornings. i would suggest it to anyone
Jan 12 2009 1:58PM
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JDon
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I do my biceps/triceps one day, my chest another day, my back and shoulders another day, and my legs another day. I do abs every second day. On these days i do about a 10 minute warm up run.
I do cardio about twice a week.
I do a full body stretch everyday.

The hardest and best thing i have done is squats while standing on one of those work out balls that are cut in half and have the plastic platform. Standing on the platform requires you to use your core and all your stabilizers while also maintainind perfect balance, and thus good form.
Jan 12 2009 2:03PM
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reBlocke
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http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Starting_Strength_Wiki

I did that workout, plus a bunch of core/balance stuff over the summer.
Jan 12 2009 2:08PM
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[Adam]
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i have ski team dryland 4 days a week in second quarter until the mountains open then i ski two days a week and dryland the other two. weekends are free unless theres a comp.
Jan 12 2009 2:20PM
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gr4
Posts: 1499 - Karma: 945
Ive found the best lift for me is power cleans. It gives you fast twitch muscles in your legs which will make you jump/pop higher, and it builds the muscles in your back and shoulders which doesnt apply as much to skiing but its nice to have.
Jan 12 2009 2:32PM
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ski_ENDUB
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Road cycling is a super good workout, it definitely builds up a lot of muscle endurance. Also stretching is huge and can help avoid injuries.
Jan 12 2009 2:37PM
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ben_southworth
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box hops like a mother fucker

but like some others have said, you definitely need to do a full body work out
having muscle around your bones helps enormously in injury prevention
Jan 12 2009 4:42PM
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Chickendodo
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Dear god.  I would never subject my body to such torture.  That shit is scary.
Jan 12 2009 4:49PM
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unchyll
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haha wow, so that sammy vid comes out and every has to start claiming how much they work out.
its pretty much the new afterbang
Jan 12 2009 4:50PM
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Roy
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Yea I did lots before the season and have now stopped. But I mianly did alot of cardio to try and drop some weight plus 6 packs are hawt. I used to way in a 205 to 210 so thats a pretty hard hit when you fall on a big jump or drop, down to 195 to 200 and tho 10 pounds less feels amazing (going to try 5 more). Then I did alot of leg and core work outs mainly to get my legs strong for heavy impacts and trying to get jump height. I espesh worked on strengthing my hamstrings according to my cuz (he was a weight trying for the canadian olympic snowboard team) you should try and balance your hamstrings and quads because an overdevelopped quad can have a shearing motion and tear your acl or something like that. Also stretching is key I always stretch and it makes a huge differance. For proof you can watch our superU edit (http://www.superu.ca/contestant/688/43) the bomb drop we do we measured at 12 feet to flat and Im a 200 lbs thats alot of impact! We seshed it for two days and my knees and ankles (have had injuries) where 100 percent pain free, last year I would have been able to hit that drop maybe 5 to 7 times before having to stop from joint pain.

Jan 12 2009 4:51PM
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Thenowhereman42
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The gym is for suckers.  I just get into a gang brawl for 20 minutes a day 3 times a week.
Jan 12 2009 7:59PM
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KravtZ
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it def helps your skiing overall it wont drastically improve it but it will make you go longer and feel way better also it just helps in everyday life and makes you feel better. plus its always noice showin off the bod to mad bids on the beach
Jan 12 2009 8:08PM
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MadSteezin
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Ever heard of the great outdoors? Get some fresh air instead of some shitty circulated air inside of a germ factory.
Jan 12 2009 8:14PM
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Slinger1x1
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i hope your using a lower weight for the squats on the half ball, i usually squat with 135, and i handle that just fine, but on unstable ground, its a real risk with that weight
Jan 12 2009 8:22PM
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richards
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yes i work out
Jan 12 2009 8:32PM
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Remora
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YEAAAH

...probably the toughest/best workout videos eeeverrr.
Jan 12 2009 8:36PM
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canadianclassic
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Thanks for the awesome contribution, really helps everyone. Like the other guy said above the "starting strength" workout is great and will pack on muscle faster than you'd believe. I want to start doing box jumps and other plyometrics to help improve my speed and power, plus it looks fun to train.
Jan 12 2009 8:38PM
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adanac_360
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i hit the gym 4 times a week, or more durin the summer/ before snow happens. Doing full body workouts is the best, cuz doing your legs is dumb. Nothing like some incline bench press to make you feel good!!
Jan 12 2009 9:28PM
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jfletcher
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Jon Brogan is living proof that you can be the skinniest bitch and the nastiest skier
Jan 12 2009 9:33PM
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grambo
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This. Do Starting Strength. Do not modify the program, squat to at least parallel (not 90 degree legs, but when hip crease drops below knees). Do not modify the program. Go heavy, eat reasonably and rest properly. Do not miss workouts (3x a week). Do not modify the program.

Couple other things

1) P90x is meh, Crossfit (www.crossfit.com) is the real deal. P90 is better than nothing but CrossFit is far superior.

2) Cleans/snatches (power or full, power is easier to learn without a coach) will build awesome power development, plus you can work front and overhead squats which are amazing for your core.

3) Squatting on a bosu ball (the half ball thing someone is talking about) is pointless and dangerous, you are asking for ankle/knee injuries. You do not fire more muscle tissue squatting say 135 on a bosu ball verus 225 on the ground. Think about it, what sports (other than lumberjack log rolling) are you on an unstable surface? The ground doesn't move when you ski, you do, so squat HEAVY on solid ground, trust me every muscle from your ankles up is going to be working to stabilize the bar through the range of motion.
Jan 13 2009 1:27AM
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