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Concerning Those with Knee problems

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urbanjib
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What do you do to keep your knees good?
Exercises food etc?

i gotz my kneez fucked, and aint got da money for surgery or nuttin...

any suggestions?
Jan 8 2009 11:27AM
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FUUUCK
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lower body exercise, balance, pilates, flexibility.
Jan 8 2009 11:31AM
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hedgehog
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glucosamine supplementation to prevent further wear of your cartilege

look for the dvd "bulletproof knees" its expensive, but worth it.
Jan 8 2009 11:31AM
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FUUUCK
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you bought it?
Jan 8 2009 11:42AM
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Balto
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lots of stretching

vitamins

protein shakes

lots of squats/leg presses

yoga

Jan 8 2009 11:47AM
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urbanjib
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thanks everyone +karma...

what are some good vitamins to get?
Jan 8 2009 11:49AM
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Balto
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i forget the brand i take, but i just went to my local GNC and got what they recomended. i use the stuff that helps loosen joints and alot of extra calcium ones.
Jan 8 2009 11:51AM
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summersover
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knee braces are always good too while skiing i have just minimal stretchy material ones and my knees are never sore when i ski but yes stretching and good exercise helps a ton in keeping you knees good and flexible and conditioned for athletic activity
Jan 8 2009 11:51AM
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urbanjib
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Well im starting to do at least 20 min of stretchin a night now, and i have a lil crap ace brand knee brace, but im gettin a better more comfortable one soon enough...


So basically just go to GNC, and ask for what they would recommend for Knee problems and what not?
Jan 8 2009 11:58AM
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powderhound028
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Fish oil helps keep your cartilage healthy

Stretch and exercise!
Jan 8 2009 12:42PM
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urbanjib
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any particuraly good brands to try?
Jan 8 2009 1:15PM
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camlax
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pm sent. i'm a personal trainer.
in my pm though i forgot to add YOGA! its not gay, you'll pick up hot girls there, and it will work wonders on your skiing and injury prevention.
Jan 8 2009 2:26PM
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oldskewl
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Far bad knees it is important to keep your excercises closed chain.  Leg extensions put ALOT of stress on your knee so they should be avoided (they are open chain).  Squats and leg press are good.  Be careful not to go past 90 deg on squats.  Balance disc work is also good.  Glucosamine and chondroiton are also highly recommended although nothing has been proven.
Jan 8 2009 2:32PM
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FreeBallin
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painkillers~!
Jan 8 2009 3:02PM
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thegreyarea
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If you're skiing and can find a way, everyone should train weights regardless of having knee problems. A lot of injuries are caused by overloading your joints and not having enough muscle to relive some or most of the stress. Skiing only works certain portions of your legs.

And definitely do yoga. It's bad ass.
Jan 8 2009 3:21PM
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canadianclassic
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Really? Everything I've read other than old wive's tales says to go below 90 degrees (upper legs parallel at least parallel to the ground). When you go that low it deloads your knees a bit and actually works your hips properly. You won't be able to squat as much weight this way at first but it is correct form that should be learned before you start working towards higher weights. [url]http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/BBFullSquat.html[/url] [url]http://spectrumfitness.blogspot.com/2008/05/to-squat-deep-or-not-to-squat-deep.html[/url]
Jan 8 2009 4:02PM
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camlax
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 im going to weigh in on the squat discussion because i see WAY to many young kids performing it wrong. the idea not to go past 90 has some truth and some falsities. if you're new to weight training, i would not advise you to jump in and start squatting without some sort of experienced supervision (your buddy doesn't count as supervision). 
with the squat, the placement of the bar on your back has alot to do with where your knee is. if you position the bar higher, you will have a more upright posture whereas if the bar is lower on your back, you will be leaning further forward. ideally halfway through the squat motion, you could draw a vertical line from the bar, through your knee and to your heel. this is the ideal vertical plane that the bar should move in. also, your back needs to be arched back with your ass sticking out. NEVER LET YOUR BACK GO FORWARD!!!
 more important than not letting your knee go forward alot is not letting your knees bow in or flail out. try to keep them steady.
if you are squatting "ass to grass" or that is to say all the way down to the ground, it is physically impossible without bending over at the hip slightly. that is OK, just don't let your shins get out infront of your toes when you bend over.
here are a few good links
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/cyberpump1.htm
from the king himself, mark rippetoe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kawBY5p29fQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yha2XAc2qu8

if anybody has any weight training or supplementation questions, just send me a pm
Jan 8 2009 5:18PM
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oldskewl
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the thing is he has"knee problems".  Any good orthepedic doc will tell someone w/ knee probs not to go below 90.  I personally have been weight training for a long time and have had my knee done 2x and I no longer go ass to floor but I go beyond parrallel
Jan 8 2009 5:54PM
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Freeheel4real
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good info guys thanks
I have suuuppper bad knee problems.  I went skiing a week ago and still can't run/go up stairs i think I'm fucked.
Jan 8 2009 6:12PM
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A^frame
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Seriously buy an indo board and learn some style moves it is fun as hell great for balance strengthening, and you will soon have a new hobby!!!!!
Jan 8 2009 6:21PM
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urbanjib
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hey everyone thanks for the help!!
im very grateful for it, and hopefully, i can get back to full potential
Jan 8 2009 6:28PM
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ianz2
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dude i feel for you i just got home from the doctor and i am out for the season cause i smashed my fibia into my tibia so yeah
Jan 8 2009 7:17PM
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canadianclassic
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ohh yeah my bad I guess that only really applies to people with solid knees. I just don't like seeing the don't go past 90 advice most of the time and I jump on it a little quick since it leads to people quarter-squatting too much weight and not seeing any gains with it and hurting themselves.
Jan 9 2009 1:55AM
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Big_Willy
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One legged squats are one of the best exercises you can do to strengthen your knees.
Jan 9 2009 2:24AM
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niklasturku
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My right knee is fucked up. I've been to one surgery, and the 2nd is maybe coming up..
But i ski 5 days a week, and do exercises with my knees every day. That keeps them in good shape, and gives me the opportunity to ski 5 days a week
Jan 9 2009 2:24AM
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CraigAK
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ive been having problems wiht my right knee since last spring. i went to the doc on tuesday and he said hes almost positive that minisecus*(might have spelt that wrong) is torn, and ill have to get sugery eventually. but im skiing with an ace brace for the mean time, and going to try and hold out till after skiing. the doc said it might be possible. im just curious if anyone else has skied wiht a torn miniscus before? since ive been using the brace ive felt fine, but thats only been a couple weeks
Jan 9 2009 2:29AM
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St.Steezy
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my knees are fucked.. i've given up.. I'll just ride them till their dead.
Jan 9 2009 3:01AM
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Verno
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Dude, it depends on what your knee injuries are.  If it's MCL, it's Good...er, not bad. 
ACL not good.  Torn miniscus, not great but manageable.  Do some reading and see what's wrong....don't listen to us fucksticks on this site.

If you need surgery, just move to Canada.
It's free. 

Hell, everyone else does it.

Jan 9 2009 3:13AM
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hedgehog
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a good way to learn squats is to put a bench of small chair and squat down slowly onto the chair to learn the proper stopping point.

pick up a book called "maximum strength" by eric cressey

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-BOOK-Maximum-Strength-Cressey-Eric-Fitzgerald-Ma_W0QQitemZ360118895641

this includes alot of great soft tissue work most people dont even know about.
Jan 9 2009 8:04AM
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urbanjib
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thats what i believe is wrong with mine... i skated a couple times, and without a brace, or if i tilt my legs too much to one side, my leg locks up, and then i have to have someone come pull on my leg to pop it back... totally sucks

keep the brace, and stretch... this stuff even happens to me, when i am sitting cross legged
Jan 9 2009 8:09AM
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