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6 days on the lizzies .. already De-Laming

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beermuscles
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Yeah super lame, haven't really beat on them that heard either, just normal park usage.

any thoughts?
Dec 31 2008 10:58PM
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inactive
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would you like to meet my anthems?
Dec 31 2008 10:59PM
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beermuscles
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i got some volkl walls as my back up ski if that is what you are asking .. but damn i just can't believe it .. i thought line solved this problem last year.
Dec 31 2008 11:03PM
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inactive
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i have last years skiis
Dec 31 2008 11:05PM
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Shlogan
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ya, ive been on my anthems for 6 days to, and already not looking good. sucks for us!
Dec 31 2008 11:15PM
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inactive
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this years or last years
Dec 31 2008 11:18PM
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joly.sp
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Isn't Line supposed to be really good about warranty for things like delaming?
Dec 31 2008 11:27PM
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ONTerriible
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i dunno ive used my bacons for five days and one night and they are holding up really good, a few scrapes on the top sheet and some small base nicks but thats it. no delamination though.
Jan 1 2009 12:17AM
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fragglemuffin
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ive been on my lizzies for about a month with no delam...just normal topsheet slices and such
Jan 1 2009 12:29AM
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J.D.
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Topsheet chipping is one thing. No big. If they're delaminating though, Line is good people and they'll help you out.
Jan 1 2009 1:10AM
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jsaya_SagStraps
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same, mine almost have the wooden sidewall look
Jan 1 2009 1:30AM
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smuggs
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ive got like 40 days on my motherships, they still look new, no core shots and well alta doesnt have the deepest base yet.

i put like 140 days on my sir francis bacons and they still looked new.

i skied elizabeths for 3 years and had no problems, except tearing a binding out of the ski on a cliff drop to rock.

my old eric pollard pro models i had for a season until the edge came out of the tip, then line replaced them.

you got a faulty pair, return em when they are unskiable and they will probably send you next years.
Jan 1 2009 12:16PM
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SkierX
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Is it actually delam or is it just nicks? There is a massive difference yet people use them interchangeably all the time.
Jan 1 2009 12:23PM
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Commonwealth
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Yeah, it seems like he might just be talking about topsheet chipping. If it bothers you, which it really shouldn't, I remember someone suggesting taking a file and shaving the topsheet edges down at a 45 degree angle. I've never done it, though.
Jan 1 2009 2:58PM
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alev
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ive got a spot behind my bindings where i have a bad chip in the top sheet, but unless it gets bigger it should be an problem. if you have something like that, throw some epoxy in there and clamp it together for a night and it should be set
Jan 1 2009 3:27PM
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no_steeze
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i've put like 8 days on my bacons and they look new, i hit a 10 footer and landed directly on a rock with my left ski and there isn't even a scratch, from my experience line makes bombproof skis
Jan 1 2009 3:45PM
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zackblain
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haha I can't wait til sirfrancisbape reads this.
Jan 1 2009 5:14PM
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49566738265
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It really doesn't matter what everyone elses experience is, there will always be some bad pairs of skis.  With only 6 days those should be well inside your warranty.
Jan 1 2009 6:02PM
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Shlogan
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spirals
Jan 1 2009 6:28PM
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skinnylove
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that's what happens when we buy skis for $399.
Jan 1 2009 6:57PM
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Z_rob
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I've been thinking about getting the lizzies.

what are your guys thoughts on how the lizzie actually skis like how does it do in powder with such a short length? And park?

+++karma for any helpful answer
Jan 1 2009 7:04PM
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beermuscles
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haha dont worry guys i know the difference of de lam and chipping and the whole fron of my ski is faling off haha. about 6 inches down from the tip is completely split. but yeah i intend on sending in my lizzies soon .. think i should wait and try and get next years?
Jan 2 2009 12:29PM
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fragglemuffin
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ride them as long as you can, and send them in at the end of this season....besides the warrantee taking a while, line will most likely send you 09-10 lizzies if you do it this summer or late spring...i did this with my old invaders a couple years ago and i got 07-08 skis before most stores had them
Jan 2 2009 12:33PM
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Malczyk
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this dude speaks the truth...
Jan 2 2009 5:12PM
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beermuscles
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Yeah I work at a shop, I just needed to vent.

haha
Jan 2 2009 5:40PM
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Canuker
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damn, i just oprdered some 08 incaders. SHould i be expecting the same thing?
Jan 2 2009 9:05PM
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Luc.
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lines quality is shit i dont know what they are thinking.... i have seen blends that looks like a 4 year old made them...well it makes sense if they are made in china.
Jan 3 2009 9:09AM
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Shlogan
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ya, but the graphix on the blend make up for it. its like picaso can draw, just cant make. thats only if we are talking about cosmetics of course.
Jan 3 2009 11:33AM
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Luc.
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im talkin about the craftsman ship of the ski. the graphics mean little.
Jan 4 2009 12:17AM
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yeahitsdave
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the quality on my blends is flawless. 6 days of beating on them and the topsheet is nicked in two spots, no major damage to the bases from rails, and the snow/coverage around here is super shitty. the craftsmanship on them is top notch.

then again, we dont stock them in my shop, and in my area, they are overkill, so i havent seen another pair. i just love fat skis
Jan 4 2009 12:24AM
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KJones
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I'm not trying to thread jack, but since your talking about problems with line skis, has anyone noticed if the bases and edges on last years lizzies are super thin? I have only skied mine about 5 days and I already got a few nicks that appear to have core showing through. The nicks aren't even that deep, I've seen much worse without showing core.
Jan 4 2009 4:43AM
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A-Style**
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nooby question i know sorry but can sum1 explain the difference between 'delamination' and just top sheet chipping. sorry, but thanks for the help, truly.
Jan 4 2009 4:46AM
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KJones
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Delamination is when the entire top sheet starts to pull off of the ski, while chips are exactly how they sound, small chips in the top sheet material. hope that helps
Jan 4 2009 4:52AM
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Luc.
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i mean...i have seen blends...brand new never touched snow that have edges not properly placed into the base, and the base bein inconsistent with the edge profile...meaning the base has point where it is lower, and even higher than, the effective edge.


not to mention the gaps between the base and edge itself.
Jan 4 2009 9:55AM
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