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Skier dies at squaw...inbounds avy

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californiagrown
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the west is getting puked on.  squaw had conditions nothing short of epic!!!! but the avy danger is super high.  one dude died on an inbounds avy.  supper scary to have that happen.    everyone should enjoy the epic conditions out west in the next few days, but remember to stay safe and always be afraid of avvies.
Dec 25 2008 11:51PM
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SkierJulie
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http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_11310572 so sad
Dec 25 2008 11:56PM
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Hack.The.Pow.
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wow never thought someone could die in a inbounds avy. thats scary stuff
Dec 26 2008 12:12AM
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CFD
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That's so sad to hear.. It's so easy to forget about it when you're inbounds
Dec 26 2008 12:20AM
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ILoveOhio
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Sadly a guy died last year at Big White in an inbounds avy.

R.I.P.
Dec 26 2008 12:25AM
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bob_dole
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dont forget about the lady at snowbird a few weeks ago...
Dec 26 2008 12:36AM
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shortdawg
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was that on 'the cliff'?
Dec 26 2008 12:40AM
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skisquaw@420
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anyone can die in any avy

i knew the dude. he was nothing short of an amazing skier. he will be missed!
Dec 26 2008 12:40AM
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ThaLorax
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damn, in a  "heavily wooded area"? which run was it on? the mad dog area? granite chief?

RIP
Dec 26 2008 12:41AM
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skisquaw@420
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yep, poulsen's (sp?) gully, lookers left from the chair
Dec 26 2008 12:53AM
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Alex_G
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SHIT! so many people dying these days...first the lady at snowbird, now this guy...positive vibes as you guys all say. HUCK this. skiing shouldn't ever mean death. RIP.
Dec 26 2008 12:55AM
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mackinnon
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jesus...another? hopefully all these deaths and everything within the last few weeks will make people more aware. there's a big avalanche warning for pretty much every ski area in CO within the next few days, so BE SMART/SAFE PEOPLE!
Dec 26 2008 12:56AM
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blackoutbill
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Damn. I'm sorry dude. These stories make me so sad. Somebody above me said skiing should not mean death and that is absolutely true. Stay safe everyone
Dec 26 2008 12:58AM
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Clifford996
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yyep exactly... so sad... but anyone who skis at squaw knows that poulsens (sp) is a great powder day run, i think if i had to die young, skiin powder would be the way i would want to go... still really sad tho
Dec 26 2008 1:18AM
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ThaLorax
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Well I would't really consider that area "heavily wooded" but damn, that's sad.  Everybody be careful out there with all the snow piling up. 

And by mad dog I meant red dog. I was thinking mad dog like the shitty wine called mad dog 20/20...
Dec 26 2008 1:27AM
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Scott~~~~~~~~~~
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Yeah I saw this on TGR. Apparently it was on a bombed run and very late in the day after it had been skiied out from what I gathered. What a shitty occurence. Hate seeing this. I guess that makes 4 deaths at squaw already this year, shitty~
Dec 26 2008 1:31AM
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MC_POUTINE
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is a resort liable for inbounds avys?
Dec 26 2008 1:49AM
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meltonsnow
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soooo sad!  i hate hearing stuff like this.  may you rest in peace my friend.
Dec 26 2008 2:41AM
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TheMafia
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a resort is not liable... when u buy a ticket or a pass.. u essentially sign your life over. This sucks... I wish the family the best.
Dec 26 2008 3:04AM
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skodeo7
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Damn! Tons of inbounds Avys this year. Be careful everyone. Take some Avy classes and do some research. Its easy to get in over your head without even realizing it.
Dec 26 2008 7:40AM
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Silence
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It's never nice to hear this news. RIP
Dec 26 2008 8:06AM
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Static
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negligence
Dec 26 2008 8:10AM
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KravtZ
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++++vibes gotta be careful out there
Dec 26 2008 8:44AM
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Coalescent
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Thats not completely true.  If it were true, then why do you see people suing and winning.  Look at the Snoqualmie case from a year or two ago with the terrain park jump.  Even though the rider bought the pass, he still took it to court and got money out of it.  The pass doesn't cover everything.
Dec 26 2008 9:03AM
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SkierX
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Best wishes to anyone who knew the guy.

Shit is rough this year with all the recent snow falling on a shitty early season snowpack. Be careful out there and you are never safe if you're on a run within the magic number.

If you live out west and haven't taken an avy course, you should really be rethinking your decision.
Dec 26 2008 9:12AM
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smuggs
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and wearing your beacon in bounds used to get you picked on in the bar.....

i heard 95 percent of alta has been closed because they fear avalanches all over. seems like some mountains are too gungho on having the terrain open that might be dangerousespecially with rotten snow at the bottom of the snow pack and rain crusts.
Dec 26 2008 10:08AM
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Tex.
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no, skier repsonsibility code... inherent risk(s) of skiing.
Dec 26 2008 11:25AM
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wasa
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Shit that's scary it's so easy to forget about avy danger when your inbounds
Dec 26 2008 11:58AM
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Static
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doesn't mean shit
Dec 26 2008 7:58PM
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bpalmer
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any lawyer will eat that shit for breakfast. its hard to argue that an inbound avalanche is not negligent on the part of a resort... it is (relatively) forseeable danger. the idea that you 'sign your life away' sort of rests on the ski resorts duty(duty of care, in a negligence case) to provide a safe environment to ski, or to close off unsafe areas.

i would be surprised if there isn't a lawsuit involved in this whole thing. that said, r.i.p. and god bless the family. skiing accidents are the worst.
Dec 26 2008 9:01PM
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yoyoho
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he could of hit a tree, fell in the deep chopped up snow and got buried? any thing is possible.

You rarely here of a slope sliding, what been heavily tracked this early in the season.  But it’s not un-common in late spring for a heavily tracked slope’s to slide.


Dec 26 2008 9:05PM
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BMit
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huh?! means quite a bit actually- try reading it for once
Dec 26 2008 9:39PM
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Nico_G
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damn Im skiing there tomorrow.  +++++ vibes to that dude and I totally agree with the guy who said skiing should never mean death its the total opposite. To me its the purest form of living.


Dec 26 2008 10:05PM
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gordie.
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ya it was
the pictures from it were intense
some of our friends were staying at the place we own out there when it happened
Dec 26 2008 11:11PM
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jmason
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jesus

well... with all the terrain that's now being included inbounds these days, i guess one could say that it was to be expected at some point...
Dec 26 2008 11:13PM
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fatbastard
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The Sierras aren't (usually) like the interior mountains where a single rain crust or something like that can cause a major problem for an entire season. We can have glare ice, get a 4' storm and suddenly everything is good to go.

This accident involved only the surface new snow on top of recent snow. The wild thing is, with where it happened and apparently how it happened, it really could have happened to anyone skiing at Squaw yesterday.

Fortunately, the Sierras are magic and less than 24 hours later, the entirety of Squaw was good to go today and pretty much epic with virtually no slide activity.
Dec 27 2008 12:02AM
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Tex.
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its your repsonsibility to be educated about the conditions and dangers at the mountain you ski. the snoqualmie incident is the only case that i've ever heard of somebody winning a legitimate ammount of money and beat the skier responsibility code (although i think the case decision is still in appeal).

in any case, the skier responsibility code means a whole bunch. and unless the law has changed in the past year, i know that Colorado's skier responsibility code kicks ass, it stipulates that no damages, ie money, reperations can be collected from a resort due to the inherent risks of skiing, which includes avalanches..

Dec 27 2008 12:39AM
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Clifford996
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there was no negligence on squaws part, it was a freak accident, like all avys. my dads a patrolman at squaw and said they had bombed the gully he was skiing in early that morning. it was just snowing hard all day and the snow built up and eventually it slid. squaw valley did everything they could do. there probably will be a lawsuit involved (im not sure of the laws) but i guaranty nothing will come of it.
Dec 27 2008 2:05AM
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ogfeez
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yeh it was red dog, my dad told me today..... he used to be ski patrol out there a long time ago
Dec 27 2008 2:50AM
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B.bowzz
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Shiat

R.I.P
Dec 27 2008 3:26AM
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DrippinWithSteez
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DON'T EVER FUCKING HATE ON MD!
Dec 27 2008 3:36AM
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SkierX
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You need to do a little more digging about ski resort lawsuits. They get sued and have to sizeable sums of money all the time.

That little disclosure on the ticket is more so there to alert you to the dangers but is absolutely worthless when it comes to court.
Dec 27 2008 8:27AM
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bpalmer
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thats not what i was saying. avalanches are accidents, and its hard to place blame. and i'm sure squaw has great patrol resources and all. but with a good legal team and a jury that doesnt know dick about skiing, the court may not agree. it sucks, but thats how the legal system works.
Dec 27 2008 3:48PM
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TheQuailman
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wow thats crazy, and I'm leaving tomorrow to go ski squaw for a week

When your skiing inbounds you just don't expect an avalanche.  Is it the resorts fault? No, they moniter the slopes and bombed that one like they should and an unlikely and unpredictable slide occured and its a shame but its not anyones fault.  When we go skiing or do almost any activity we understand the risks involved, try to stay safe, and when something bad happens its tragic.  I hope the best for his family and friends.

Dec 27 2008 6:41PM
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skisquaw@420
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but you should, and every good squaw local knows that
Dec 27 2008 7:17PM
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Mex_LineJib^a
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word. specially during the holidays... prayers sent to all the skiers and their families mentioned in this thread.
Dec 27 2008 7:30PM
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