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450 out and switch up blind 270

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RoadRash_Skier
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 I know they are pretty similar trick but when I do them I am always leanding backseat and falling on my as! What could I do?
Dec 24 2008 6:28PM
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Alex_G
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are you talking about front 4 out and k-fed?

Dec 24 2008 8:42PM
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RoadRash_Skier
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yeah k-fed! but not front 4 out(not blind 4) I'm talking about normal 4 out(leanding foward)
Dec 25 2008 12:18AM
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Alex_G
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?? wait so its not front 4 and its not blind 4?
Dec 25 2008 9:14PM
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RoadRash_Skier
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front and blind are not the sameXD?
Dec 26 2008 9:27AM
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sirskizalot
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no, front is when you spin off the rail forwards(after 90degrees you're facing FRONTwards down the hill) and blind(aka backside) is when you spin off backwards(after 90degrees you're facing backwards down the hill)
Dec 26 2008 11:43AM
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Malcolm
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i am so confused
Dec 26 2008 11:48PM
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sirskizalot
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He wants help with his k-feds and frontside 450-out. Both of which i want to learn too so tips would be sweet.
Dec 27 2008 1:20AM
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RoadRash_Skier
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yeah cuz im always leanding backseat on those trick!

Dec 27 2008 5:23PM
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sklermang
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for k feds scissor with the toe of your leading foot and this will help you lean forward, which will hopefully stop you from landing backseat
Dec 27 2008 7:15PM
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InfernoHits
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^ I might be misunderstanding you here, but on a k-fed you should lift your front ski toes up to fs switch up. Once you set that spin just stick with the spin all the way through and it should carry you around to blind 270 after.
Dec 27 2008 9:22PM
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f.ray
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ok for the 450 out , you need to land on the rail whit your shoulders facing down the rail. braking your upper body form your lower body. has your are coming to the end of the rail , you can bring the toes of your front foot up , giving you some grip and some thing to push off helping you for the spin out .keep your back hand near your back hip , giving you a bigger spin for the spin out a solid pop will help you a lot for this too . once your off the rail , its basicly like a 360 , look over your shoulder and spot the landing .
helps?
Dec 27 2008 10:51PM
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pianoman
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i'm not very good at front 4's out but i can do k-feds alright and all i have to say is that for a k-fed what you want to make sure you're doing is bending your knees when you land back on the rail after the switchup so that you can spring back up to get the bs 270 around at the end. what might be getting you to land backseat could be that you are too straight-legged when you're pushing off at the very end to complete your spin, thus thrown off balance. hope that makes sense, and hope it helps.
Dec 28 2008 12:16AM
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sirskizalot
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that helps me out, im gonna work on that tomorrow on my backyard rail, thanks.
Dec 28 2008 2:05AM
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sklermang
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ya my bad, i think i said it wrong. so you would land on the rail, scissor with the heel of your back foot to make the fs switch up, and most people say to carry the momentum around for the bs 270 off, but when i learned them i had trouble doing that, so it helps (after doing the fs switch up) to scissor with the toe of the front foot to spin the bs 2sev out
Dec 28 2008 8:25AM
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sklermang
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sorry for triple post too, but the point of the scissoring before the 270 is to help you lean forward and not land backseat (otherwise my other posts would be random and not answering ur question haha)
Dec 28 2008 8:29AM
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f.ray
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also , try to do the sw up and 270 out in one movement. dont forget to bring your shoulders around at the sw-up too . your shoulders and arms are doing the trick first and the rest of your body follows...
Dec 28 2008 2:21PM
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kalum.ko
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what about for blind 450's any tips (i can't find a thread but there must be one on them)
Feb 7 2009 9:18AM
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rupert_pupkin
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set like a blind 270 but spin harder?
Feb 7 2009 1:56PM
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